Does Section III of the 14th Amendment disqualify McCain?
freindlyfired
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Or dont we bother with the constitution anymore?
3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
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Who knows what other info he gave them because just weeks after his capture while he was being treated for his injuries/torture by Russian doctors (the only POW treated by Russian doctors) the Vietnamese became twice as efficient at shooting down US planes.
McCain cracked like and empty shell just four (4) days after his capture.
Fact: McCain was a terrible pilot, he crashed three planes before being sent to Vietnam.
Google Ted Guy and Gordon Swede Larson. They claim that no prisoner was tortured at the camp McCain was held, in fact it was the camp prisoners were released from.
tell you what.. he'd be shit at semaphore wouldnt he.
This is just ridiculous. The man didn't cough up any classified information. If you don't believe in or support a candidates position on issues that's one thing but to try to smear a man's reputation with this is simply pathetic.
There are some that say he went so far as to give numbers of aircraft in his flight formation, location of rescue ships and the orde of which his attack was to take place. Colonel Hopper claims that McCain gave classified info to hone there air defense system like package bombing routes, flying altitudes, directions if they made a turn, he gave them primary targets and as a result Hopper claims the US lost 60% more aircraft before the US eventurally in 1968 decided to call off the bombing.
Look up McCain and see how open he is to releasing docs and info regarding Vietnam POWs, check the records to see how closely he worked with the Pentagon and CIA to pass legislation on keeping secret thousands of docs relating to Vietnam POWs, documents that otherwise would have been declassified long ago. McCain claims its to protect the privacy of POWs.
for the least they could possibly do
The Swiftboat group supposedly will have another round of TV ads coming out next month...
It's been said the Dems are trying to squash the negative POW ads by these groups.
educateyourself.org search earle hopper
Phoenix new times 3/25/99
alex jones 2/8/08
la times 5/28/03
new london day may 99
vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com
commondreams.org 2/6/08
Syndney Schanberg- the war secrets mccain hides 4/25/00
http://www.usvetdsp.com/
washinton post 3/11/08
I cant fathom how anyone can tolerate let alone support most Dems and Repubs!!!
I hated when they pulled this shit with Kerry and I hate it that it's being done to McCain. Both men served honorably and to try to smear that is completely disgusting.
"I ain't sayin nothing."
"Well whadda we tell the doctor"
"Tell 'em to suck on a lemon"
"You know, you could be more helpful sometimes."
On a military base which is considered US soil.
I've never heard of these. where can i find out more? thanks
pearljamguy@gmail.com
It would be good for you to ignore that fact since it is entirely irrelevant.
I love that people bring that up completely ignorant of the fact that US Military bases and embassies are technically considered US soil.
Kerry made an issue of his service does that give people the right to smear what he did. To criticize his Purple Hearts. I agree that McCain has made an issue about it but the best way to handle that would be to acknowledge his service and sacrifice and follow that up with the fact this his service neither hinders nor increases his qualifications to be President of this country. There is no need to attack the man's status as a POW.
WTF does this person's post have to do with Obama?
To the original poster, this Constitutional amendment does not apply to 'captured' military personnel who are subjected to torture. McCain's capture and subsequent torture during the Vietnam War would not have placed McCain in any compromising position to hold an office of the United States government, including the position of President.
This Constitutional amendment may now have been compromised under the current Patriot Act for today's military and civilian personnel as we have seen through the incarnations at Gitmo.
I really heard this somewhere I wasn't making it up.
While campaigning in Pittsburgh earlier this year McCain changed this story and said he gave the names of the Steel Curtain. He'll say anything to get elected.
http://kdka.com/politics/Republican.John.McCain.2.767089.html
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/07/11/mccains-steelers-story-doesnt-add-up/
Having said that, I do believe that this section of the Constitution may apply to Sarah Palin, as she was involved with a secessionist group while in office.
It was actually her husband. there is no proof, that I know of, that shows that she had any relationship with the secessionist movement.
When McCain himself keeps bringing up the time he spent as a POW I think it is fair game.
While he was busy redacting files and stonewalling transparency he could have offered an amendment up.
I love how just because things are said over and over again it just becomes truth. I see no proof that he was tortured, in fact everything leads me to beleive he rec'd special treatment.
His entire life is a lie.
It doesnt matter bec in the end we will get (like now) what we deserve for sitting on the sidelines watching our country go to shiz.
If you think swiftboating was wrong, please don't spread these kind of rumors around.
power to the peaceful