Down to 3 Horrible Candidates...Who Do You Choose?

MichaelMcKevin
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edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
Who is the lesser of your 3 evils and why?
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  • eekamouse
    eekamouse Posts: 267
    Obama, cause this shit will unravel fast. Let the dems have complete control and fuck us in the ass.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    none of the above


    they aren't deserving
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,593
    Clinton is the only one I feel is "horrible." Considering the alternatives (Romney, Huckabee, Clinton, Edwards), I'm fairly optimistic about McCain v. Obama. Neither is my ideal candidate, but pretty decent as far as major parties go.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    who are the 3 candidates..
  • mattosborne
    mattosborne Posts: 339
    To call Barack Obama a horrible candidate shows a complete lack of understanding for anything politically related. He's a great candidate. I've got a feeling you're one of those people that wouldn't like candidates from either major party no matter who they were.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    mattosborne wrote:
    To call Barack Obama a horrible candidate shows a complete lack of understanding for anything politically related. He's a great candidate. I've got a feeling you're one of those people that wouldn't like candidates from either major party no matter who they were.


    I've stated plenty of reasons why I wouldn't vote for him and think he's just more of the same and I'm pretty sure I understand politics.
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  • fuck
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    mattosborne wrote:
    To call Barack Obama a horrible candidate shows a complete lack of understanding for anything politically related. He's a great candidate. I've got a feeling you're one of those people that wouldn't like candidates from either major party no matter who they were.
    The way I see it you had 2 choices:
    1. Explain WHY you think Barack Obama is "a great candidate."
    2. Just say that anyone who doesn't like him obviously has no idea what they're talking about, and therefore has a lack of understanding for ANYTHING politically related.
    Almost every Obama supporter I've dealt with is the same. No reason why he's obviously the best choice, but if you don't see that he's the best choice then you don't know anything.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    _FiveAgainstOne_ wrote:
    The way I see it you had 2 choices:
    1. Explain WHY you think Barack Obama is "a great candidate."
    2. Just say that anyone who doesn't like him obviously has no idea what they're talking about, and therefore has a lack of understanding for ANYTHING politically related.
    Almost every Obama supporter I've dealt with is the same. No reason why he's obviously the best choice, but if you don't see that he's the best choice then you don't know anything.

    yep, that's been my experience, too.

    'He's a great speaker and uniter' really isn't saying much. I don't understand what's so great about him. His stances are almost identical to Hilary's and actually I think some of hers are better. And all 3 have the same foreign policy standards. What has he done that is so 'grrrrreat'?
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  • MichaelMcKevin
    MichaelMcKevin Posts: 1,161
    All horrible because right now foreign policy is driving me the most, and none of them are good for Iraq
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    GivenToCarve wrote:
    All horrible because right now foreign policy is driving me the most, and none of them are good for Iraq

    Or Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, Palestine....and the list goes on.


    I am truly proud to support a candidate for the first time in my voting life. I don't feel like I'm fighting against someone so much as I feel I am fighting for someone who is truly deserving, inspiring and for all the things I believe in. It feels right. And I'm gonna keep singing his praises for as long as it takes. :)

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  • Smellyman2
    Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    Barrak Hussein Obama....The name alone will even make realtions better w/ the middle east.

    Having "foreign relations" experience is vastly overrated. Intellect, Common sense, compassion, passion, human decency etc. are much more important. All of which has been severely lacking the last 8 years.

    Also, what ex president has had great foreign relations experience before they took office? Answer. Pretty much none (George Sr. is probably the closest and that went well. doh)

    besides America needs a lot of fixing at home too. It would be nice to have a president that cares about the people in the US too. Bush could give to shits about the common man at home or afar.
  • down_ski
    down_ski Posts: 328
    mattosborne wrote:
    To call Barack Obama a horrible candidate shows a complete lack of understanding for anything politically related. He's a great candidate. I've got a feeling you're one of those people that wouldn't like candidates from either major party no matter who they were.

    You, have no idea what you are talking about. And about 99% of the people i know who support Obama know NOTHING about him. Its fucking pathetic...just a shit popularity contest
  • Smellyman2
    Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    down_ski wrote:
    You, have no idea what you are talking about. And about 99% of the people i know who support Obama know NOTHING about him. Its fucking pathetic...just a shit popularity contest

    So he/she doesn't know what they're taliking about because your friends are retarded?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    down_ski wrote:
    You, have no idea what you are talking about. And about 99% of the people i know who support Obama know NOTHING about him. Its fucking pathetic...just a shit popularity contest

    I'm sure some of the people that support obama don't know as much as they should about him. Same as some McCain, Hillary and Nader supporters.

    I'm just so tired of all constant criticizm that Obama supporters are mindless sheep, while supporters of his opponents are apparently the only free-thinkers on the planet.

    Supporting a party with candidates and a platform fitting or as close as fitting with your objectives certainly does NOT make you (or others) sheep.

    Frankly, I find the "sheep" comments to be a form of labeling from frustrated people who find many just do not agree with their view of the world. Rather than to try and understand why they disagree (and respect this) it gives an opportunity to be dismissive of those folks as "dumb". Rather short sighted and self defeating in my point of view.

    It's been going on in this forum for so long now. There's at least two or three comments in this thread alone about it. Whenever you say anything back, someone says ' well why does obama deserve your vote'?. So you answer, and then a couple a days later it happens again, and in the end i just think, fuck it.
  • My3rdEye
    My3rdEye Posts: 927
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Vote for Satan and go down in a blaze of glory...

    He's already in office isn't he?

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I'm sure some of the people that support obama don't know as much as they should about him. Same as some McCain, Hillary and Nader supporters.

    I'm just so tired of all constant criticizm that Obama supporters are mindless sheep, while supporters of his opponents are apparently the only free-thinkers on the planet.

    Supporting a party with candidates and a platform fitting or as close as fitting with your objectives certainly does NOT make you (or others) sheep.

    Frankly, I find the "sheep" comments to be a form of labeling from frustrated people who find many just do not agree with their view of the world. Rather than to try and understand why they disagree (and respect this) it gives an opportunity to be dismissive of those folks as "dumb". Rather short sighted and self defeating in my point of view.

    It's been going on in this forum for so long now. There's at least two or three comments in this thread alone about it. Whenever you say anything back, someone says ' well why does obama deserve your vote'?. So you answer, and then a couple a days later it happens again, and in the end i just think, fuck it.

    Don't let it get to you. Us Nader supporters get called radical, extreme left, head in the clouds, too idealistic, stubborn, fringe, throwing our vote away....you know the drill.

    People who disagree are going to often do it whilst being rude and obnoxious, sadly. Let that speak to who they are as a person, not yourself. As long as you know it isn't true...don't sweat the small stuff. :)
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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:

    'He's a great speaker and uniter' really isn't saying much.
    but really though... what else does the US president actually do? It's not like they make any decisions... being a great speaker and uniter are two of the main qualities I look for when I vote... because that's all they have to do. A president is probably the biggest ambassador for your country so, if they can speak well, it helps a LOT. Why do you think America's so unpopular under Bush compared to Clinton?
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    but really though... what else does the US president actually do? It's not like they make any decisions... being a great speaker and uniter are two of the main qualities I look for when I vote... because that's all they have to do. A president is probably the biggest ambassador for your country so, if they can speak well, it helps a LOT. Why do you think America's so unpopular under Bush compared to Clinton?

    I'd like to think they change things for the better...ya know, like they all say they're going to do. It's their job to guide us and lead...not just talk about things they never do. They all have these grand plans of things they say they are going to do because they know it's supposed to be their job. They pick cabinet members, advisers, judges, etc who do affect the direction our country is going. So when I see these candidates all full of these plans to change things, they need to put their money where their mouth is. They all have connections with lobbyists, corporate contributors and these same people who give them the money to get elected will be the ones who benefit the most once they're in.

    If all we expect out of our leaders is talk, it's no wonder we're in the mess we are.
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