"We the People,..." are the terrorists

aNiMaL

GivenToCarve wrote:

Cops go too far all the time. I was involved in a police brutality incident that made National News. I was beaten up by 3 cops for rushing the field at an NCAA football game. People everywhere were rushing the field and most police were letting it go. When i ran, I got tackled to the ground by 3 officers, held there, and as I laid on my stomach, cuffed on the ground, a ~240 lb officer came over and delivered three blows to my upper back/lower neck area when I had already cooperated. Fuck the police.

Yeah, that is a fucked up story. i agree the three blows were way over the top considering if you were already in cuffs.

Power hungry, title chaser's who find it hard to invoke control over their normal life take on the job as police so they can feel like a real man with the badge and gun. Fuck those guys!!

MichaelMcKevin

aNiMaL wrote:

Yeah, that is a fucked up story. i agree the three blows were way over the top considering if you were already in cuffs.

Power hungry, title chaser's who find it hard to invoke control over their normal life take on the job as police so they can feel like a real man with the badge and gun. Fuck those guys!!

Here are a few videos:

During
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDYtuAjguFg&feature=related

After:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD9rFJV_jyw

*Any video with the punches has been taken off the web. That officer was cleared of any wrongdoing.

aNiMaL

GivenToCarve wrote:

Here are a few videos:

During
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDYtuAjguFg&feature=related

After:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD9rFJV_jyw

*Any video with the punches has been taken off the web. That officer was cleared of any wrongdoing.

Is that you the guy in the white shirt and white hat who got SLAMMED to the ground in the "during" video?

MichaelMcKevin

aNiMaL wrote:

Is that you the guy in the white shirt and white hat who got SLAMMED to the ground in the "during" video?

No I'm in the purple shirt getting taken down by 3 cops in tan shirts (prior to the 4th officer who comes up and lays into me). That's also me in the 2nd video.

Anon

GivenToCarve wrote:

No I'm in the purple shirt getting taken down by 3 cops in tan shirts (prior to the 4th officer who comes up and lays into me). That's also me in the 2nd video.

You could've at least given us your sexy rock star look dude. Jeez.

And i'm sorry that happened to you. That's disgusting.

aNiMaL

GivenToCarve wrote:

No I'm in the purple shirt getting taken down by 3 cops in tan shirts (prior to the 4th officer who comes up and lays into me). That's also me in the 2nd video.

Oh man, that sucks. What assholes!!!

Commy

GivenToCarve wrote:

No I'm in the purple shirt getting taken down by 3 cops in tan shirts (prior to the 4th officer who comes up and lays into me). That's also me in the 2nd video.

That's bullshit. Fucking cops.


did they charge you with anything? why is it illegal to rush the field when the game is over?

aNiMaL

Commy wrote:

That's bullshit. Fucking cops.


did they charge you with anything? why is it illegal to rush the field when the game is over?

Well, technically that does constitute trespassing. That doesn't justify what they did to him, but he was originally in the wrong.

It sucks in the mob mentality of rushing the field after a victory, because most people will get away with it as they cannot arrest everyone. they just should have been more civil with you (or the OP).

Collin

aNiMaL wrote:

I have been pulled over numerous times in my life and have never had my car searched. This video of two asshole cops is not that proof that their training is such.

Again, i am all for rallying against asshole cops and the old boys network that protects them. Just give me something more to sink my teeth into other than an 8 year old video.

I think what you just said is chunky enough to sink your teeth into...

There are asshole cops, and we should define that term first for clarity's sake, to me it's any cop who abuses his power. That includes minor incidents as well, not just police brutality. I know they are only human and everyone makes mistakes but their duty is to serve and protect you, not to abuse you or ignore your rights. We trust these people with power and serious responsibilities.

You also mentioned the old boys network protecting them. You agree it should be fought. Isn't that the issue here?

OK, the video's eight years old. GivenToCarve when did this happen to you? Damn that was brutal, sorry you had to experience that. Anyway, I'm sure we can find more recent videos, youtube's full of them, from countries all over the world.

MichaelMcKevin

Commy wrote:

That's bullshit. Fucking cops.


did they charge you with anything? why is it illegal to rush the field when the game is over?

The asshole who uncuffed me and I had a brief conversation that went like this:

Cop: "Son, you're very lucky I'm letting you go. You could be charged with a felony"
Me: "Felony...???"
Cop: "You were resisting arrest"
Me: [appalled]"And I was being arrested for?...nevermind. Thank you, I just want to go back to my house"


Every officer attended a meeting before the game. They were specifically told not to lay a hand on any student. I repeat "lay a hand"... I guess body-slamming, tackling, punching, shoving faces into the ground, etc. don't fall under "laying a hand".

Grace7

Nothing gets the ire of Alex Jones as these road blocks!! The first I ever heard of him he was filming the "police checks" on I35 outside Austin.
I find it particularly scary that it was 8 years ago. I heard,or read, that one "flag" to notice in a car is an atlas or detailed map. An atlas? That was about 4 years ago and I actually took my atlas out of my car! It represented so much more to me than mere road directions, it represented my choice to stay or go, freedom and I totally bent over. Pitiful. I have since returned to my senses. I think she would have a much harder time today in any court.
I couldn't link to the other video but by your discription...very frightening.

I'm a complete illiterate on the computer but I will try again!

peace

Grace7

GivenToCarve wrote:

Here are a few videos:

During
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDYtuAjguFg&feature=related

After:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD9rFJV_jyw

*Any video with the punches has been taken off the web. That officer was cleared of any wrongdoing.

OUCH!!!!

lalalalaaaaaaaa

aNiMaL wrote:

there is a cat and mouse game for sure that police play in hopes that people do not know their rights.

That's exactly what I'm saying, yes.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

It's not just in the US this mentality is taking hold...something straight out of Nazi Germany times...."your papers please".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1091448/Big-Brother-police-war-time-powers-demand-ID-street--pain-sending-jail.html

MrBrian

Saturnal wrote:

it's methodical, not random. Next time you get pulled over, pay attention. See if the cop asks you "do you know why I pulled you over?". There's a reason they always ask that...there's a method to the questions they ask. See what happens if they ask you to step out of the car and you don't close the door behind you.

I don't have any documents, but cops are definitely trained to use their instincts when something smells bad to them....they're trained on how to justify probable cause. They're trained on how to get consent on searches. They're just trained in such a way that looks ok on paper. Their training tells them "oh I can get this person to give up their 5th amendment rights by doing this, this, or this...once I do that, probable cause is much easier to justify...or if I can't get probable cause, maybe I can get them to consent to a search without realizing it"...etc. etc. It looks good on paper, but the actual application of it is much different as most videos like this will show. If the training wasn't meant to be applied in the way it clearly is all the time, then they'd revise it.

Yes, exactly!

Abuskedti

that woman should be arested. give the police your identification when asked. They need our cooperation to do their job. that woman wasted the time of those officers - of whom we do not have enough. The result could be tragic for someone in real trouble.

Collin

Abuskedti wrote:

that woman should be arested. give the police your identification when asked. They need our cooperation to do their job. that woman wasted the time of those officers - of whom we do not have enough. The result could be tragic for someone in real trouble.

Do you think those officers were doing their jobs properly?

Abuskedti

Collin wrote:

Do you think those officers were doing their jobs properly?

well, I don't know why they pulled her over.. but after that.. absolutely. She is driving, and was asked for her liscense to drive .. her refusal to provide identification makes her suspicious. at that point her refusal to cooperate was obstruction and her fighting as they tried to get her out of the car is resisting..

yes they acted absolutely fine in my estimation

do you think her being mother looking gives her a pass? what if she wore a turban?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Abuskedti wrote:

that woman should be arested. give the police your identification when asked. They need our cooperation to do their job. that woman wasted the time of those officers - of whom we do not have enough. The result could be tragic for someone in real trouble.

That's Nazi germany. "Your papers please" Go that route and you're totally fucked.

Their job was harassment based on hyped paranoia. Who needs, or should need, help to do that?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Abuskedti wrote:

well, I don't know why they pulled her over.. but after that.. absolutely. She is driving, and was asked for her liscense to drive .. her refusal to provide identification makes her suspicious. at that point her refusal to cooperate was obstruction and her fighting as they tried to get her out of the car is resisting..

yes they acted absolutely fine in my estimation

do you think her being mother looking gives her a pass? what if she wore a turban?

And they didn't either, because they offered zero explanation when asked. Zip.

What have I done wrong she kept asking...

nothing...give us your papers please...

fuck that...that's insane.