Money as Debt
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Light bulbs going off like pretty little Christmas lights randomly scattered thoughout the neighborhood. Bah humbug!!! said uncle scrooge...
What will Santa bring us for Christmas?
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/135.html
"One of the last things John F. Kennedy did before he was assassinated was declare his intention to reform the central banking system of the United States.
No connection between these two events?
Congressman Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee from 1927-33, opposed the Federal Reserve System. There were three reported attempts on his life before he finally died of "heart failure."
Here's what he said about the Federal Reserve from the floor of Congress:
"Mr. Chairman, we have in this Country one of the most
corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the Fed.
The Fed has cheated the Government of these United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the Nation's debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Fed has cost enough money to pay the National debt several times over.
This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of these United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the mal-administration of that law by the Fed and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it."
What will Santa bring us for Christmas?
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/135.html
"One of the last things John F. Kennedy did before he was assassinated was declare his intention to reform the central banking system of the United States.
No connection between these two events?
Congressman Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee from 1927-33, opposed the Federal Reserve System. There were three reported attempts on his life before he finally died of "heart failure."
Here's what he said about the Federal Reserve from the floor of Congress:
"Mr. Chairman, we have in this Country one of the most
corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the Fed.
The Fed has cheated the Government of these United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the Nation's debt. The depredations and iniquities of the Fed has cost enough money to pay the National debt several times over.
This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of these United States, has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the mal-administration of that law by the Fed and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it."
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I can just imagine either of you getting all giddy when the other posts about:
A) The Fed
C) 9/11
D) Zionism
E) Anything else deemed as a 'conpsiracy'
It's funny to watch. It really is.
I'd love to read your PM's with each other.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
Holy...
reality much?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Exactly.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
Look around perhaps?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Look at less conpsiracy sites perhaps?
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
Nope that's not it. Sorry.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Enlighten me oh wise one of the Synergy message board's Moving Train section.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
It's all there on the wall already.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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What is your stance on the Federal Reserve System? Do you think it is necessary? Is it corrupt? Could we live without it? Would we prosper without it?
got my attention to the "Federal(NOT gov't related at all!!!) Reserve" and the banking system.
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hahahaha.
Touche
Money Masters is a more historically in depth, accurate, and less ideologically idiotic representation of the Federal Reserve.
Some of what zeitgeist has to say is worthwhile.
Some of it is crap.
The entire premise ("no money", "money is evil") of the 2nd Zeitgeist, is just plain dumb. Even the ancient tribes of this world (like the native americans) often used systems of exchange (termed "money").
I found a lot of interesting points regarding "money" on this blog. The guy has some valid points.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Ah yes, your canned response du jour. Good stuff.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
I don't claim to be an expert on it, nor do I post conspiracy websites and then laugh/smirk with an implied "Oh boy, here we go, I told you so" each and every time.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
No really it is....it literally is. Scroll up...take a look for yourself.
You can use the slider bar at the right side of your browser, and click the left mouse button, or use the scroll wheel on your mouse (if equipped) and click.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Understood. I don't think anyone can actually claim to be an expert on it, except for those who are actually IN IT. I would say that's a huge part of the problem. I don't think you have to be a conspiracy theorist to see a lot of what these guys do is pretty criminal, and their policies aren't helping you or me out. I would hate to see people turned off against fighting this system just because there are some people who are really passionate about it, and who use videos with some music and editing that can be viewed as "sensational" as means to educate. There is a lot of good information in those videos-- and these days, how are you supposed to capture the attention of the American public without a little razzle dazzle
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936
This video is straight out of education-ville in terms of its length, and potential to bore you to tears (I thought it was pretty interesting myself, though)-- there's really nothing "tin-foil hat" about it. If you have sometime, check it out. Even if you just play it in the background at work, and keep the window minimized, it does a great job of explaining things.
That is not a statement I would argue against.
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"Thomas Edison made it plain in the following excerpt from The New York Times, December 6, 1921 issue ("Ford Sees Wealth In Muscle Shoals"). Here, the reporter is quoting Edison:
"That is to say, under the old way any time we wish to add to the national wealth we are compelled to add to the national debt.
"Now, that is what Henry Ford wants to prevent. He thinks it is stupid, and so do I, that for the loan of $30,000,000 of their own money the people of the United States should be compelled to pay $66,000,000 -- that is what it amounts to, with interest. People who will not turn a shovelful of dirt nor contribute a pound of material will collect more money from the United States than will the people who supply the material and do the work. That is the terrible thing about interest. In all our great bond issues the interest is always greater than the principal. All of the great public works cost more than twice the actual cost, on that account. Under the present system of doing business we simply add 120 to 150 per cent, to the stated cost.
"But here is the point: If our nation can issue a dollar bond, it can issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good makes the bill good. The difference between the bond and the bill is that the bond lets the money brokers collect twice the amount of the bond and an additional 20 per cent, whereas the currency pays nobody but those who directly contribute to Muscle Shoals in some useful way.
" ... if the Government issues currency, it provides itself with enough money to increase the national wealth at Muscles Shoals without disturbing the business of the rest of the country. And in doing this it increases its income without adding a penny to its debt.
"It is absurd to say that our country can issue $30,000,000 in bonds and not $30,000,000 in currency. Both are promises to pay; but one promise fattens the usurer, and the other helps the people. If the currency issued by the Government were no good, then the bonds issued would be no good either. It is a terrible situation when the Government, to increase the national wealth, must go into debt and submit to ruinous interest charges at the hands of men who control the fictitious values of gold.
"Look at it another way. If the Government issues bonds, the brokers will sell them. The bonds will be negotiable; they will be considered as gilt edged paper. Why? Because the government is behind them, but who is behind the Government? The people. Therefore it is the people who constitute the basis of Government credit. Why then cannot the people have the benefit of their own gilt-edged credit by receiving non-interest bearing currency on Muscle Shoals, instead of the bankers receiving the benefit of the people's credit in interest-bearing bonds?"
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Wake up little Susie...wake up..
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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As is the fact that you only quote things and never have anything original or of note to say.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
"The next thing to saying a good thing yourself, is to quote one."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson
"A quotation at the right moment is like bread to the famished."
-Talmud
"I love quotations because it is a joy to find thoughts one might have, beautifully expressed with much authority by someone recognizably wiser than oneself."
-Marlene Dietrich
If I opened it now would you not understand?
And you?
dude wake up bro, look at the reality of it. It's usury against the people, and it's plain as day. What else is there to be said?
Start learning.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I don't need you to tell me I need to wake up. That's my whole point with your ridiculous threads. Nobody needs you to tell them to wake up, because you're not providing anything thought-provoking enough to warrant such a reaction.
You know nothing about me.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
For every US dollar in currency, someone somewhere owes that dollar to someone, most likely a bank.
Another way to put it-if all debts were paid tomorrow there would be no US dollars in circulation.
I know enough to know you should know more about it. Just that fact that you call it ridiculous is the most telling part of all.
amongst other things....namely your personality and approach.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Calling everything a conspiracy theory is a copout. As soon as the word conspiracy theory comes out, it instantaneously implies that the theory is bullshit and anyone believing it is crazy (thank the media for that).
If they were all bullshit, the months/years of research and work put into them would have been given up on early in the process of making the movies. What they are is a group of organized FACTS, intentionally spoken with lots of conviction to subliminally influence you to want to get up and do something about the situation, and the facts alone should do exactly that.
His knowledge on anything to do with the Fed Res and his interpretation on the constitution. He debates these two issues in such a way that i can look at them with an open mind for a different view. He definitely knows his stuff.
Now if he could just help me get my head around the ridiculous rules on tipping (something i am still struggling with after a couple of years permanently living here), i will think he is the all time bees knees.