There is a market for them because people here are too willing to give up their freedom. what right does a HOA have to define terms on land that you buy. oh right i forgot. you dont own your land. you lease it from the government. so i guess they have all the rights in the world to do what they want to you, because the government is obviously enforcing it. keep letting the government take away your freedoms. and the really sad thing is, people here are endorsing the loss of personal freedom.
Say you don't like the "overbearing" HOA rules.
March your happy arse down to your next HOA meeting and SAY SOMETHING.
They mail you a nice little letter and everything.
Say you don't like the "overbearing" HOA rules.
March your happy arse down to your next HOA meeting and SAY SOMETHING.
They mail you a nice little letter and everything.
Just total teen hippie nonsense...
hippie nonsense to be put in jail for not watering your lawn?
its not about owning a home, its about being put in jail for not watering your lawn.
Its about having proper perspective, which includes being empathetic to the circumstance and having a knowledge of the subject itself.
But if you ever get to into a place, you'll understand...
You make yourself look just DUMB when you run around sreaming "fight the power", and you have no knowledge of the facts at all.
Its about having proper perspective, which includes being empathetic to the circumstance and having a knowledge of the subject itself.
But if you ever get to into a place, you'll understand...
You make yourself look just DUMB when you run around sreaming "fight the power", and you have no knowledge of the facts at all.
attack me personally, nice. Is that your last resort in this one?
Any facts or logic to contend the statement, "A senior citizen has been put in jail for failing to water his lawn."
just read through the fact on the thread, it's all right there. Many of the posters degrade this country with the enabling of our people...part of my activism is to help restore the values of self-reliance and self-determination.
just read through the fact on the thread, it's all right there. Many of the posters degrade this country with the enabling of our people...part of my activism is to help restore the values of self-reliance and self-determination.
And I care very much about that.
then why are you supporting a neonazi esque homeowners association where they send memebers to jail for failing to follow the rules?
I'm not, and if you'd read my earlier posts you'd find me quite critical of HOA
I DO support the the right to choose for yourself and be informed about your own decisions, however.
there is some truth to that. But you can't tell me a decision in this country could land you in jail, should you fail to water your lawn.-that that is just.
hippie nonsense to be put in jail for not watering your lawn?
Sounds closer to nazism.
It sure does. I can see getting a fine with interest, but jail?!?
This world is self destructing if people actually support this mentality.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Yield6's lack of knowledge, and by that I mean flat ignorance, leads him to oversimplify the problem here.
clever Asshole blasts notwithstanding.
(snicker) you just said clever asshole blasts...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
There is validity to the statement that people believe they are entitled to
equity in their home values, but would YOU flush 300k down the drain?
If you would then your'e a pinko commie and can leave anytime.
Other then that, you are copletely uninformed.
fight the power.....with ingnorance!
What am I uninformed about?
The only meaingful sentence in your pile of worthless rhetoric is "you would flush 300K down the drain?"
Now that's something of an argument. But it looks like you'd rather resort to name-calling and ad hominem than really discussing the issue at hand.
So what can the HOA do in this situation? I agree that sending someone to jail is ridiculous, but fines certainly won't work (since he apparently does not have enough money for a sprinkler). If you think HOA's suck, well they do exist here, and are meant to protect people's investments. Watering does not seem a ridiculous request. So what is the HOA to do?
How many family members are living in this house? If they are working, there should be money for a new sprinkler. If they are not working, then they have plenty of time to water the damn lawn with a hose and some seed.
I love the A 1+1= JAIL ???(OMGGNFUW!!!!! ZOUNDS@!!@!! Mentality of the people here.
Yes, the guy is in jail for his grass being brown.
if you ignore the months and months of missed court dates and entire lack of response to the legal system.
Guy buys house agreeing to rules.
Guy Doesnt Follow Rules.
Guy Given Countless Chances to resolve the problem, does not. Ignores it.
Guy Given opportunity to defend himself in court. Ignores it.
Guy blames everything else when he gets put in jail?
Regardless of this mans situation, he was ignoring his responsibility. He was given every chance to fix it. Hell, he was given enough time for grass to grow from seed. If he wasnt going to fix it, and blantently ignored court orders... why shouldnt he go to jail?
I equate this, in a lot of ways to people saying...
CLINTON WAS IMPEACHED FOR GETTING A BLOW JOB.
No, he was impeached for perjury. When you make the dramatic proclamation you are ignoring the actual legal steps, and the actual law broken for no reason other than to make it sound far more sensational than it is.
I love the A 1+1= JAIL ???(OMGGNFUW!!!!! ZOUNDS@!!@!! Mentality of the people here.
Yes, the guy is in jail for his grass being brown.
if you ignore the months and months of missed court dates and entire lack of response to the legal system.
Guy buys house agreeing to rules.
Guy Doesnt Follow Rules.
Guy Given Countless Chances to resolve the problem, does not. Ignores it.
Guy Given opportunity to defend himself in court. Ignores it.
Guy blames everything else when he gets put in jail?
Regardless of this mans situation, he was ignoring his responsibility. He was given every chance to fix it. Hell, he was given enough time for grass to grow from seed. If he wasnt going to fix it, and blantently ignored court orders... why shouldnt he go to jail?
Because he is going to jail over his lawn. What's wrong with fining him? All jail did was produce the opposite result of what some are claiming should have taken place in the first place.
The guy had 5 acres which is a lot of grass to take care of. He could afford to handle the situation originally when he moved in but fell on hard times as indicated.
In any event...5 acres of grass is hardly casual, it's almost like farming.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Exactly! It is amazing how quick people are with excuses. This is a very simple issue. Responsibility and accountability are a bitch. The old man put himself in jail with the help of his family and friends.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
In any event...5 acres of grass is hardly casual, it's almost like farming.
I agree. That is a lot of work and a big committment. Perhaps he would have been better suited to a condo where the grounds are taken care of for him. Why would he purchase a piece of property he was unwilling or unable to maintain?
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
I agree. That is a lot of work and a big committment. Perhaps he would have been better suited to a condo where the grounds are taken care of for him. Why would he purchase a piece of property he was unwilling or unable to maintain?
Agree. In his present financial situation, yes, a condo, or more manageable plot of land would have been much better situation for him. With a functioning sprinkler system, and adequate cash on hand (originally) that situation was manageable. When his sprinkler system pooched out, and his funds dried up, now he has a lot more more than he can deal with. When this guy was saying keeping the house payments rolling was more important than the thousands he would have dole out to get the lawn irrigation system, I beleive it's a bit more complicated than a simple case of lack of responsibility. In any event it's nice to see people help out like that, and I think he should probably sell and downsize. His property tax payments alone will probably end up doing him in.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Agree. In his present financial situation, yes, a condo, or more manageable plot of land would have been much better situation for him. With a functioning sprinkler system, and adequate cash on hand (originally) that situation was manageable. When his sprinkler system pooched out, and his funds dried up, now he has a lot more more than he can deal with. When this guy was saying keeping the house payments rolling was more important than the thousands he would have dole out to get the lawn irrigation system, I beleive it's a bit more complicated than a simple case of lack of responsibility. In any event it's nice to see people help out like that, and I think he should probably sell and downsize. His property tax payments alone will probably end up doing him in.
I live in florida and i run my sprinklers MAYBE 10 times a year. It's just CRAP to make excuses for this guy. It rains ALL THE FREAKING TIME here.
It is a simple case of lack of foresight/responsibility at best.
At worst and, more realistically, he was plain lazy and defiant.
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Say you don't like the "overbearing" HOA rules.
March your happy arse down to your next HOA meeting and SAY SOMETHING.
They mail you a nice little letter and everything.
Just total teen hippie nonsense...
Sounds closer to nazism.
again, says the non-homeowner.
Its about having proper perspective, which includes being empathetic to the circumstance and having a knowledge of the subject itself.
But if you ever get to into a place, you'll understand...
You make yourself look just DUMB when you run around sreaming "fight the power", and you have no knowledge of the facts at all.
Who is this?
What do they do?
What authority do they have?
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Any facts or logic to contend the statement, "A senior citizen has been put in jail for failing to water his lawn."
Anything?
And I care very much about that.
I'm not, and if you'd read my earlier posts you'd find me quite critical of HOA
I DO support the the right to choose for yourself and be informed about your own decisions, however.
It sure does. I can see getting a fine with interest, but jail?!?
This world is self destructing if people actually support this mentality.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Yield6's lack of knowledge, and by that I mean flat ignorance, leads him to oversimplify the problem here.
clever Asshole blasts notwithstanding.
(snicker) you just said clever asshole blasts...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
What am I uninformed about?
The only meaingful sentence in your pile of worthless rhetoric is "you would flush 300K down the drain?"
Now that's something of an argument. But it looks like you'd rather resort to name-calling and ad hominem than really discussing the issue at hand.
What are you so afraid of?
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
How many family members are living in this house? If they are working, there should be money for a new sprinkler. If they are not working, then they have plenty of time to water the damn lawn with a hose and some seed.
Edit: Seems everything worked out. Great.
Yes, the guy is in jail for his grass being brown.
if you ignore the months and months of missed court dates and entire lack of response to the legal system.
Guy buys house agreeing to rules.
Guy Doesnt Follow Rules.
Guy Given Countless Chances to resolve the problem, does not. Ignores it.
Guy Given opportunity to defend himself in court. Ignores it.
Guy blames everything else when he gets put in jail?
Regardless of this mans situation, he was ignoring his responsibility. He was given every chance to fix it. Hell, he was given enough time for grass to grow from seed. If he wasnt going to fix it, and blantently ignored court orders... why shouldnt he go to jail?
thanks so much, for a second I thought we were all
a bunch of commies.
CLINTON WAS IMPEACHED FOR GETTING A BLOW JOB.
No, he was impeached for perjury. When you make the dramatic proclamation you are ignoring the actual legal steps, and the actual law broken for no reason other than to make it sound far more sensational than it is.
It's called responsibility.
Because he is going to jail over his lawn. What's wrong with fining him? All jail did was produce the opposite result of what some are claiming should have taken place in the first place.
The guy had 5 acres which is a lot of grass to take care of. He could afford to handle the situation originally when he moved in but fell on hard times as indicated.
In any event...5 acres of grass is hardly casual, it's almost like farming.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Exactly! It is amazing how quick people are with excuses. This is a very simple issue. Responsibility and accountability are a bitch. The old man put himself in jail with the help of his family and friends.
I agree. That is a lot of work and a big committment. Perhaps he would have been better suited to a condo where the grounds are taken care of for him. Why would he purchase a piece of property he was unwilling or unable to maintain?
Agree. In his present financial situation, yes, a condo, or more manageable plot of land would have been much better situation for him. With a functioning sprinkler system, and adequate cash on hand (originally) that situation was manageable. When his sprinkler system pooched out, and his funds dried up, now he has a lot more more than he can deal with. When this guy was saying keeping the house payments rolling was more important than the thousands he would have dole out to get the lawn irrigation system, I beleive it's a bit more complicated than a simple case of lack of responsibility. In any event it's nice to see people help out like that, and I think he should probably sell and downsize. His property tax payments alone will probably end up doing him in.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I live in florida and i run my sprinklers MAYBE 10 times a year. It's just CRAP to make excuses for this guy. It rains ALL THE FREAKING TIME here.
It is a simple case of lack of foresight/responsibility at best.
At worst and, more realistically, he was plain lazy and defiant.