Police Escort from Nashville Presidential Debate

RolandTD20Kdrummer
RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
Obama supporters were actually cheering this guys denial of free speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ivQczE8meE

Holy...glad it's not my reality....yet..
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    a) nice hat

    b) that steelworker fella appeared pretty close to shoving that hat and bullhorn up his ass...he should be thankful for the police intervention

    c) no one made him stop talking, they just moved him...he continued to talk...no one stopped that

    d) who knew Christan Slater was such an idiot
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    inmytree wrote:
    a) nice hat

    b) that steelworker fella appeared pretty close to shoving that hat and bullhorn up his ass...he should be thankful for the police intervention

    c) no one made him stop talking, they just moved him...he continued to talk...no one stopped that

    d) who knew Christan Slater was such an idiot

    Why should he be moved at all? If he was saying something like "Go Obama"... I'd bet nothing would have happened. It was what he was saying...the truth...which was the problem. People don't want to hear the truth apparently.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    inmytree wrote:
    d) who knew Christan Slater was such an idiot

    :)

    he reminded me of corey feldman.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Why should he be moved at all? If he was saying something like "Go Obama"... I'd bet nothing would have happened. It was what he was saying...the truth...which was the problem. People don't want to hear the truth apparently.

    is it ok to yell "fire" in a crowded theater...?
  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Why should he be moved at all? If he was saying something like "Go Obama"... I'd bet nothing would have happened. It was what he was saying...the truth...which was the problem. People don't want to hear the truth apparently.

    I'm sure the bullhorn in everyone's ear didn't have anything to do with this...
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    inmytree wrote:
    is it ok to yell "fire" in a crowded theater...?


    If there is a fire?...yes definitely....absolutely. In fact it should be encouraged in order to save lives.

    When you are telling the truth, freedom of speech should be congratulated where appropriate not attacked. In this case this guy is ahead of the curve and the people present in the dark have yet to figure out not only what the guy was saying, but what it actually means.

    Dissent is not tolerated, apparently, even when it's for the good of the people and the country itself as a whole.

    I'm still shaking my head...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    I'm sure the bullhorn in everyone's ear didn't have anything to do with this...

    Exactly... there were other people shouting similar things, but they weren't escorted away.

    Maybe the guy should have been allowed to bring a 1,000 watt PA system... I guess there wouldn't be grounds to shut him down then either.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If there is a fire?...yes definitely....absolutely. In fact it should be encouraged in order to save lives.

    When you are telling the truth, freedom of speech should be congratulated where appropriate not attacked. In this case this guy is ahead of the curve and the people present in the dark have yet to figure out not only what the guy was saying, but what it actually means.

    Dissent is not tolerated, apparently, even when it's for the good of the people and the country itself as a whole.

    I'm still shaking my head...

    your "truth" may not be the same as others "truth"....

    again, his free speech was not taken away...the continued to talk and scream through the bullhorn...no one muzzled him...no one prevented words from coming out of his mouth....

    and for this guy being ahead of the curve....his hat tells me otherwise...
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    I'm sure the bullhorn in everyone's ear didn't have anything to do with this...


    He was pointing it upwards not in people's ears. They didn't feel like listening to what he had to say because it wasn't "Obama is awesome woo"...

    He was dissenting against the system which everyone knows is horrendously flawed, but yet nobody really wants to talk about it directly (that is if they even are aware in the first place)....they would rather let one part of the elected apparatus speak, think, and act for them, while hoping it's all going to work out at arms length. It's getting pretty critical people figure out the program, and soon. It's bigger than what Obama want's to do. He answers to the corporatocracy flat out, and they call the shots....not Obama.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    inmytree wrote:
    your "truth" may not be the same as others "truth"....

    again, his free speech was not taken away...the continued to talk and scream through the bullhorn...no one muzzled him...no one prevented words from coming out of his mouth....

    and for this guy being ahead of the curve....his hat tells me otherwise...


    Let me guess, you have yet to learn about the federal reserve and how the money system works?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    didn't Ghandi say the best way to be heard is to speak quietly....

    Or something to that effect????
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    didn't Ghandi say the best way to be heard is to speak quietly....

    Or something to that effect????

    and don't dress like inspector gadget
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    cutback wrote:
    and don't dress like inspector gadget

    "speak quietly, and don't dress like inspector gadget."
    -mahatma ghandi

    :D
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Is there also a dress code in the US?

    I thought that was free and unprejudiced as well...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Obviously the problem with protesting is believing you are smarter and wiser than everyone else then when everyone starts to finally listen to you someone else comes along that thinks they are smarter than you and you just wish that they would shut the fuck up...
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    Obviously the problem with protesting is believing you are smarter and wiser than everyone else then when everyone starts to finally listen to you someone else comes along that thinks they are smarter than you and you just wish that they would shut the fuck up...


    Few people take the time, or even have the time to really understand economics and politics beyond what the the TV tells them. Is that an excuse to be unaware of the facts...perhaps to some it's fine...perhaps not to others.

    Once the predictability factor kicks in for people, it's a whole different ballgame as to what happens day to day, and why.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    I understand the theories but have yet to grasp the solutions of corporate control.

    Is there a candidate that doesn't wipe his ass with corporation produced toilet paper?
    Or flush their shit down a corporate produced toilet.
    Then tell me you've never eaten Taco Bell after getting drunk on corporate beer.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    I understand the theories but have yet to grasp the solutions of corporate control.

    Is there a candidate that doesn't wipe his ass with corporation produced toilet paper?
    Or flush their shit down a corporate produced toilet.
    Then tell me you've never eaten Taco Bell after getting drunk on corporate beer.

    I've done all that more times than I can count, and so has every politician alive and dead.
    Once more public awareness kicks in, it will become reality. The trick is getting people organized and informed, and involved. On the current course I'd say it's inevitable, as people are struggling at home now as well, and are looking hard for answers. How much money do these elite corporate a-holes want is my question, but that's another thread.

    Quite simply, corporations need to be redefined under new (more humanitarian) guidelines. The good news is this has happened several times throughout history, so it's definitely not impossible by any means, it just needs ongoing coordination and persistence from many at the same time.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Speakers
    Speakers Posts: 252
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Exactly... there were other people shouting similar things, but they weren't escorted away.

    Maybe the guy should have been allowed to bring a 1,000 watt PA system... I guess there wouldn't be grounds to shut him down then either.

    You got it right on. There are a number of times, if you listen to the video, where the cops say, it is because "you are being too loud" (with his megaphone)

    The guy taking the video was shouting the same stuff, and they weren't escorting him off, he was following his goofy megaphone friend.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Speakers wrote:
    You got it right on. There are a number of times, if you listen to the video, where the cops say, it is because "you are being too loud" (with his megaphone)

    The guy taking the video was shouting the same stuff, and they weren't escorting him off, he was following his goofy megaphone friend.


    Ever been around someone using a megaphone when you've liked what the person was saying? I have.

    ...it's not too loud dude...it's just a megaphone not a jet engine.

    When you don't like what you're hearing on the other hand...even the human voice can be too loud....sometimes all it takes is a tshirt.. ;)
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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