How the U.S. Just Got Schooled by a 'Rag-Tag' Neighborhood Army in Iraq

Commy

lazymoon13 wrote:

wow. so its the fault of the united states that 13 million people die or curable diseases and starvation? simply amazing.

Research the WB or WTO, the arm is long.

lazymoon13

Commy wrote:

Research the WB or WTO, the arm is long.

research corrupt governments of the world, namely in africa where the majority of these 13 million deaths happen. you'll be surprised to find out that the US doesnt actually have anything to do with it.



(ps, dont use the onion as a source lol)

Commy

lazymoon13 wrote:

research corrupt governments of the world, namely in africa where the majority of these 13 million deaths happen. you'll be surprised to find out that the US doesnt actually have anything to do with it.



(ps, dont use the onion as a source lol)

That's the thing. The WB gives a loan to some corrupt gov't in Africa, and the leaders buy 10 BMW's and let the people starve. You literally have luxurious housing bordering on abject poverty. These 'leaders' take the loan, and let the people pay off the debt. The WB knows this and continues to operate, even putting in clauses that force the governments to pay the loan ahead of any other government programs. At the expense of health care and education , etc.

A corupt official takes the loan, and the country is expected to pay it back.

beachdweller

the World Bank is the spear of our economic imperialism, which is far worse than all our other foreign policy tools, except...wait for it...the Iraq war...imo of course

lazymoon13

Commy wrote:

That's the thing. The WB gives a loan to some corrupt gov't in Africa, and the leaders buy 10 BMW's and let the people starve. You literally have luxurious housing bordering on abject poverty. These 'leaders' take the loan, and let the people pay off the debt. The WB knows this and continues to operate, even putting in clauses that force the governments to pay the loan ahead of any other government programs. At the expense of health care and education , etc.

A corupt official takes the loan, and the country is expected to pay it back.

yet somehow you blame the US for 13 million deaths a year. you are placing blame on the wrong people. wake up

Commy

lazymoon13 wrote:

yet somehow you blame the US for 13 million deaths a year. you are placing blame on the wrong people. wake up

Who has access to the most resources on the planet?

seems that it is not the killing that is the problem, often it is the indifference of decent human beings

lazymoon13

Commy wrote:

Who has access to the most resources on the planet?

seems that it is not the killing that is the problem, often it is the indifference of decent human beings

so because America has access to the most resources on the planet, you blame America for 13 million deaths a year? you really cant see how stupid that sounds? you're one sick guy, I feel sorry for you.

Commy

lazymoon13 wrote:

so because America has access to the most resources on the planet, you blame America for 13 million deaths a year? you really cant see how stupid that sounds? you're one sick guy, I feel sorry for you.

The US runs the WB and IMF, they are international organizations run by the people with the most money invested, in this case the US. It called economic control, you should look it up.

Countries are forced to export primarily, which help big business, at the expense of local farmers and manufacturers. So in Colombia it became more profitable to grow coca than coffee, one mal affect of IMF "structural adjustments". They also use the lowest common demoninator when it comes to minimum wage and workers rights, these countries are even forced to end unions in some cases.

And this is run by big business, who's main base happens to be the United States. And in the 150 or so countries affected by the IMF and WB, the 11-13 million people die every year from easily curable diseases (read cheaply) or starvation.

Its not a stretch, it fairly obvious and straighforward.

PJ_Saluki

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

You don't get it?

No, I don't get your point, though your question did a lot to enlighten me. Are you pointing out that the Iraq army backed by the U.S. can't win a guerrilla war? Are you pointing out that Iran is backing multiple factions in the conflict? Are you pointing out that Iraq is turning into a civil war pitting Shia against Shia against Sunni? Honestly, what's your point? I guess if you're wondering if I "get" the fact that the Iraq conflict is a bad idea, I figured that out long before the first troops landed in that country. More than anything, though, I "get" the fact that you take some sort of sick satisfaction in the pain and suffering of the troops and citizens over in Iraq. Personally, I don't find it all that amusing. Got that?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

PJ_Saluki wrote:

No, I don't get your point, though your question did a lot to enlighten me. Are you pointing out that the Iraq army backed by the U.S. can't win a guerrilla war? Are you pointing out that Iran is backing multiple factions in the conflict? Are you pointing out that Iraq is turning into a civil war pitting Shia against Shia against Sunni? Honestly, what's your point? I guess if you're wondering if I "get" the fact that the Iraq conflict is a bad idea, I figured that out long before the first troops landed in that country. More than anything, though, I "get" the fact that you take some sort of sick satisfaction in the pain and suffering of the troops and citizens over in Iraq. Personally, I don't find it all that amusing. Got that?

fairly decent rant... a couple of bonus points for the "sick satisfaction plot" fabrication/accusation.

3.5/10....

PJ_Saluki

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

fairly decent rant... a couple of bonus points for the "sick satisfaction plot" fabrication/accusation.

3.5/10....

You still haven't answered my original question: What's the point?

lazymoon13

PJ_Saluki wrote:

You still haven't answered my original question: What's the point?

last time I asked him a direct question I got about 12 replies of hehe..or omg's before I got an answer. keep asking, I'm curious to know as well.

PaperPlates

lazymoon13 wrote:

last time I asked him a direct question I got about 12 replies of hehe..or omg's before I got an answer. keep asking, I'm curious to know as well.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

PJ_Saluki wrote:

You still haven't answered my original question: What's the point?

What's the point of war? Good question.

That's the part where you fill in the blanks yourself or what's otherwise known as a judgment call

You could also climb a mystical mountain and ask the guy at the top what he thinks...

PJ_Saluki

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

What's the point of war? Good question.

That's the part where you fill in the blanks yourself or what's otherwise known as a judgment call

You could also climb a mystical mountain and ask the guy at the top what he thinks...

Nice answer. Should've ignored this when I saw the OP.

lazymoon13

PJ_Saluki wrote:

Nice answer. Should've ignored this when I saw the OP.

seriously, maybe its just me but I have more intelligent conversations with my 7 year old daughter. but she is a very smart girl, and well yea.

sponger

Commy wrote:

Its easier for the Iraqi's-they are defending their homes.

What is the US fighting for?

The US is trying to take away their homes? Is that what your imaginary Stalin voice tells you?