Your claim thats organic farming is worse for the environment.
No conspiracy, just one low moral company do their best to claim complete monopoly of the worlds food supply in the name of the almighty dollar above all else.
You've got to learn to distinguish a shitty company and its practices from the raw technology. I won't argue that Monsanto is a bunch of sleazebags who have very shitty corporate practices. But that doesn't mean the science behind GMOs isn't sound, or safe.
"If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
—Dorothy Parker
You've got to learn to distinguish a shitty company and its practices from the raw technology. I won't argue that Monsanto is a bunch of sleazebags who have very shitty corporate practices. But that doesn't mean the science behind GMOs isn't sound, or safe.
Dosn't mean the contrary either. Regardless.
Roundup ready....impervious to buckets upon buckets of toxic poison being dumped on them...to be eaten by human beings
mmm delicious....mmm insane,,,
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I think one of the questions we have to look at it why we are even in a position to need higher yields and whether we really need them in the first place?
Have you checked population growth, worldwide recently? And have you seen where those numbers are projected to go?
Have you also seen the statistics on the number of people employed in agriculture now as opposed to, say 1980.
Do the math.
"If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
—Dorothy Parker
Really stupid to rely on a high tech oil econamy. It is just not sustainable.
The population numbers will have to stabilize one way or the other, and food is going to be the great decider. Oil definitely isn't forever.
The squeeze is on.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Calling someone a MOFO and trying to cram poisens down our throats then saying peace?
Sounds like you do work for Monsonto or Dow?
wow dude lighten up. "mofo" is like saying "bro" or "kid"... no harm intended. Nobody is shoving poisons down your throat. GM foods have one protein exchanged from another plant or bacteria to the host plant through the process of hybridization. GM foods have been ingested for over 50 years now and no credible scientiest will tell you there is a link between GM foods and any disease. Organic farming is MORE harmful to the environment and there is no nutritional benefit in fact organics can HARM you more than genetically modified foods because they are fertilized with hundreds of lbs per acre of SHIT or HUMAN WASTE that gives you E Coli or floats down the river. BILLIONS of people would starve if all gm crops were switched to organics because of the huge yield loss that is ABSOLUTELY PROVEN, not in theory but in practice. I could go on and on about this but again... I've gotta go catch a flight to SF!!!
And I say "peace" because I am a big liberal fucking hippie... who happens to disagree with you all about this situation....
Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
Remember: sustainable agriculture only works if you have a sustainable population.
No brainer...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
wow dude lighten up. "mofo" is like saying "bro" or "kid"... no harm intended. Nobody is shoving poisons down your throat. GM foods have one protein exchanged from another plant or bacteria to the host plant through the process of hybridization. GM foods have been ingested for over 50 years now and no credible scientiest will tell you there is a link between GM foods and any disease. Organic farming is MORE harmful to the environment and there is no nutritional benefit in fact organics can HARM you more than genetically modified foods because they are fertilized with hundreds of lbs per acre of SHIT or HUMAN WASTE that gives you E Coli or floats down the river. BILLIONS of people would starve if all gm crops were switched to organics because of the huge yield loss that is ABSOLUTELY PROVEN, not in theory but in practice. I could go on and on about this but again... I've gotta go catch a flight to SF!!!
And I say "peace" because I am a big liberal fucking hippie... who happens to disagree with you all about this situation....
Did you go to UC Davis or Chico State? I have good freinds who were ag majors at Chico who work for the Ag department out of Phonex many years ago. Lost track of them.
But point is
That is where the studies of this idea that GMOs make more food. It just is not true. If only for the fact that we are running out of cheap oil. And when that is gone so goes the GMO farms.
Have as safe flight
I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
well until you can get the pope to stop being catholic sustainable population is out of the question.
There is something to agree on. There is no question IMO that churches such as the Catholics and the Evangelical Protestants are a road block to a safe future for all of us.
The catholics who think there is no limites to how many humans can fit on this earth
and
The Evangelical Protestants who want us all to die (Armageden) so they can go to heaven and finally be happy with themselves.
I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
I read that. And I don't think it means what you think it means.
from the article I posted
" In fact, they would often have a little patch of organic potatoes by the house for themselves, because they could not eat the food coming out of their farms. "
Looks like it does say what I think it says. There is a lot more on that in the full book.
I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
well until you can get the pope to stop being catholic sustainable population is out of the question.
Regardless Organic is better.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
" In fact, they would often have a little patch of organic potatoes by the house for themselves, because they could not eat the food coming out of their farms. "
that applies to pretty much any chemical you put on any crop at all. Read the warning labels on the stuff that repels insects from your garden tomato plants and they say the same thing. You've got to wait X number of days before eating the fruit. That's just the nature of the beast.
"If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
—Dorothy Parker
that applies to pretty much any chemical you put on any crop at all. Read the warning labels on the stuff that repels insects from your garden tomato plants and they say the same thing. You've got to wait X number of days before eating the fruit. That's just the nature of the beast.
That is sad
I eat my tomatos right off the vine. I often pick lettuce and eat it with in seconds. Sometimes there is still dirt on it. Mmm good organic food.
Just as god created.
I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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You've got to learn to distinguish a shitty company and its practices from the raw technology. I won't argue that Monsanto is a bunch of sleazebags who have very shitty corporate practices. But that doesn't mean the science behind GMOs isn't sound, or safe.
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
Dosn't mean the contrary either. Regardless.
Roundup ready....impervious to buckets upon buckets of toxic poison being dumped on them...to be eaten by human beings
mmm delicious....mmm insane,,,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Exactly!
Really stupid to rely on a high tech oil econamy. It is just not sustainable.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
Do you have any science to actually back that statement up, or are you just spouting nonsense?
—Dorothy Parker
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Read my thread In Defense of Food.
You have facts that refute mine?
Eh?
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
Double post
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
How does that work, exactly???
—Dorothy Parker
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And do you know what that runoff was? "Organic fertilizer", or to put it another way... manure.
—Dorothy Parker
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Do you have any clue what so ever as to what the base ingredient is in inorganic pesticides and fertilizers?
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
The manure was from cows feed on pesticide laden food.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
It doesn't matter what the cattle was fed. Pesticides DO NOT cause e. coli. Manure and fecal matter, on the other hand, DO.
—Dorothy Parker
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Nitrogen. You're breathing it right now.
—Dorothy Parker
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I read that. And I don't think it means what you think it means.
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
Have you checked population growth, worldwide recently? And have you seen where those numbers are projected to go?
Have you also seen the statistics on the number of people employed in agriculture now as opposed to, say 1980.
Do the math.
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
The population numbers will have to stabilize one way or the other, and food is going to be the great decider. Oil definitely isn't forever.
The squeeze is on.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Remember: sustainable agriculture only works if you have a sustainable population.
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
yes nitrogen is what you get but it is made from ammonia which comes from Natural Gas.
Pesticides are made with Chlorine which comes from oil.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
wow dude lighten up. "mofo" is like saying "bro" or "kid"... no harm intended. Nobody is shoving poisons down your throat. GM foods have one protein exchanged from another plant or bacteria to the host plant through the process of hybridization. GM foods have been ingested for over 50 years now and no credible scientiest will tell you there is a link between GM foods and any disease. Organic farming is MORE harmful to the environment and there is no nutritional benefit in fact organics can HARM you more than genetically modified foods because they are fertilized with hundreds of lbs per acre of SHIT or HUMAN WASTE that gives you E Coli or floats down the river. BILLIONS of people would starve if all gm crops were switched to organics because of the huge yield loss that is ABSOLUTELY PROVEN, not in theory but in practice. I could go on and on about this but again... I've gotta go catch a flight to SF!!!
And I say "peace" because I am a big liberal fucking hippie... who happens to disagree with you all about this situation....
No brainer...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
The two most common fertilizers are ammonium nitrate (the stuff tim mcveigh used in OKC) and anhydrous ammonia (favored by meth makers everywhere).
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
well until you can get the pope to stop being catholic sustainable population is out of the question.
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
Did you go to UC Davis or Chico State? I have good freinds who were ag majors at Chico who work for the Ag department out of Phonex many years ago. Lost track of them.
But point is
That is where the studies of this idea that GMOs make more food. It just is not true. If only for the fact that we are running out of cheap oil. And when that is gone so goes the GMO farms.
Have as safe flight
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
There is something to agree on. There is no question IMO that churches such as the Catholics and the Evangelical Protestants are a road block to a safe future for all of us.
The catholics who think there is no limites to how many humans can fit on this earth
and
The Evangelical Protestants who want us all to die (Armageden) so they can go to heaven and finally be happy with themselves.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
Exactly
they are both made from Natural Gas
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
from the article I posted
" In fact, they would often have a little patch of organic potatoes by the house for themselves, because they could not eat the food coming out of their farms. "
Looks like it does say what I think it says. There is a lot more on that in the full book.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
Regardless Organic is better.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
that applies to pretty much any chemical you put on any crop at all. Read the warning labels on the stuff that repels insects from your garden tomato plants and they say the same thing. You've got to wait X number of days before eating the fruit. That's just the nature of the beast.
—Dorothy Parker
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6902/conspiracytheoriesxt6qt8.jpg
That is sad
I eat my tomatos right off the vine. I often pick lettuce and eat it with in seconds. Sometimes there is still dirt on it. Mmm good organic food.
Just as god created.
~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
The Tie-Dye Lady is HOT!!!
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way