The World According to Monsanto

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Something everyone should see.
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=172&a=5653

"The gigantic biotech corporation Monsanto is threatening to destroy the agricultural biodiversity which has served mankind for thousands of years. The endless list of genetically modified seeds sold and controlled by Monsanto are putting at enormous risk age-old agricultural patterns under the presumptuous slogan of aiming at solving the huge problem of hunger in the world.

On March 11 a new documentary was aired on French television (ARTE – French-German cultural tv channel) by French journalist and film maker Marie-Monique Robin, entitled 'The World According to Monsanto' (Le Monde selon Monsanto[1]). Starting from the Internet over a period of three years Robin has collected material for her documentary, going on to numerous interviews with people of very different backgrounds. "

Google vid:
http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=World+According+to+Monsanto&hl=en-CA&sitesearch=

Torrent:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/1270297

godpt3

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The endless list of genetically modified seeds sold and controlled by Monsanto are putting at enormous risk age-old agricultural patterns under the presumptuous slogan of aiming at solving the huge problem of hunger in the world.

How is this any different than the selective breeding of crops that's been done for thousands of years since the time of Gregor Mendel?

inmytree

Monsanto has been flying under the radar for years...patenting seed genetics...I'm not even sure how that's possible...

some think Walmart is evil...Monsanto is cornering the food supply market...it's not going to be pretty...

DriftingByTheStorm

godpt3 wrote:

How is this any different than the selective breeding of crops that's been done for thousands of years since the time of Gregor Mendel?

Uh.
Seriously?

Introducing NEW genetic material in to the biosphere is RADICALY different.

We are talking about a company which is crossing animal and plant genes, splicing a little bit of this, a little bit of that, and slapping it all in to, say an ear of corn.

That ear of corn grows, the wind blows, it fertilizes acres som corn down the road that was indigenous and "heirloom"\indigenous\open pollenated ... sudenly age old crops and organisms are being "infected" with untested\unproven\and UNSTABLE genetic material.

We are talking about stuff that is demonstrated to have the potential to actualy stay active IN YOUR STOMACH and become ACTIVE DNA within the bacteria INSIDE YOU.

No fucking joke.
We have NO idea what the fuck we are doing to nature.

The birds, the fish, the plants, ALL LIFE can be IRREPARABLY ALTERED ... possibly destroyed ...

would you make a Jellyfish\Cat cross and release it in to nature to breed?

So would you release a food crop that has been crossed with genetic material from other life in to nature to breed?

How bout food altered with entirely NEW genetic code?

We are literally making this shit up at this point in time.

And science is proving that some of these alterations can actualy RECOMBINATE, or rearange their structure in to new unitended genetic patterns ...

and all of it is being LITERALY released to the wind ... to infect any & everything.


Uh.
A "LITTLE" different than selective breeding, my friend.

DriftingByTheStorm

inmytree wrote:

Monsanto has been flying under the radar for years...

its partly because of the revolving door between the private sector and washington.

Look up the links on a guy like Donald Rumsfeld.

Rumsfeld, Searle, Monsanto

that should get you started.

theroachman

godpt3 wrote:

How is this any different than the selective breeding of crops that's been done for thousands of years since the time of Gregor Mendel?

Corn and fish are close relitives and easly would breed together on their own with out Monsonto's help given a fair chance. :rolleyes:

polaris

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

its partly because of the revolving door between the private sector and washington.

Look up the links on a guy like Donald Rumsfeld.

Rumsfeld, Searle, Monsanto

that should get you started.

yup ... washington = corporate headoffice ...

SilverSeed

theroachman wrote:

Corn and fish are close relitives and easly would breed together on their own with out Monsonto's help given a fair chance. :rolleyes:

Hahaha, I just got a nice visual of a trout going to town on an ear of corn.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

godpt3 wrote:

How is this any different than the selective breeding of crops that's been done for thousands of years since the time of Gregor Mendel?

Are you familiar with the term "Roundup ready" in the agriculture biz?

No amount of hybridization is going to give you that....ever.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

On the topic of what's the big diff....how many people are aware the GM seed doesn't sew a second crop? It's an evolutionary dead end after one cycle.

Monsanto has, in effect, become the drug dealer. Food is the new drug. Farmers get hooked because their seed base gets wiped out by switching to GM seed (unless they stockpile prior to switching) .....not to mention GM food doesn't taste as good, which is common knowledge in the industry.

godpt3

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Are you familiar with the term "Roundup ready" in the agriculture biz?

Yeah, it basically means that, say, your soybeans are genetically modified to resist the effects of herbicide. So a farmer can spray his field, kill the weeds and not damage his crop in the process.


Trust me, there's alot of things that make Monsanto evil, but the whole genetically-modified crop argument isn't backed up by science.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

godpt3 wrote:

Yeah, it basically means that, say, your soybeans are genetically modified to resist the effects of herbicide. So a farmer can spray his field, kill the weeds and not damage his crop in the process.


Trust me, there's alot of things that make Monsanto evil, but the whole genetically-modified crop argument isn't backed up by science.

Monsanto has told one marketing lie after another that they have had to retract. You need to find out more. I suggest you watch this documentary.

godpt3

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

On the topic of what's the big diff....how many people are aware the GM seed doesn't sew a second crop? It's an evolutionary dead end after one cycle.

Actually, they don't. The technology to do it, called Terminator, is available but currently not in use.

In the old days, farmers would save seed from one season to the next. But due to licensing agreements, etc., Monsanto will sue the pants off any farmer that tries that with Roundup-ready seed.

godpt3

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Monsanto has told one marketing lie after another that they have had to retract. You need to find out more. I suggest you watch this documentary.

I'm an agricultural journalist, I have a pretty good idea what's going on. I know a few things about the marketing BS Monsanto has pulled. And if I ever run those stories, I'll be unemployed

RolandTD20Kdrummer

godpt3 wrote:

Actually, they don't. The technology to do it, called Terminator, is available but currently not in use.

In the old days, farmers would save seed from one season to the next. But due to licensing agreements, etc., Monsanto will sue the pants off any farmer that tries that with Roundup-ready seed.

Are you familiar with the practices in Europe? There's a documentary out called "we feed the world" where they make this claim.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

on a side track....Monsanto came up with Dioxin of which the US army sprayed 40 million litres over Vietnam...better know as Agent Orange. 40 years later kids a re still being born pathetically deformed and people are dying from cancer because of it. I could think of better businesses...

Abookamongstthemany

inmytree wrote:

Monsanto has been flying under the radar for years...patenting seed genetics...I'm not even sure how that's possible...

some think Walmart is evil...Monsanto is cornering the food supply market...it's not going to be pretty...

Haha. Remember the pus in the milk thread?

'It's not pus!'

'Yes, it is!'

Monsanto is a group of twisted people. Fighting to keep warning labels off milk cartons that would let people know about the antibiotics and growth hormones. Sick.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Haha. Remember the pus in the milk thread?

'It's not pus!'

'Yes, it is!'

Monsanto is a group of twisted people. Fighting to keep warning labels off milk cartons that would let people know about the antibiotics and growth hormones. Sick.

yeah bovine growth formula has to be countered with antibiotics to avoid cow pus in milk...mmm nice.

Using (patenting) food as a measureto control populations it what is actually happening through transgenic mutation via wind distribution. Big suprise nobody knew this was going to happen when they started messing with the genetics of food.

Nice company indeed. Nothing wrong with this greedy freak of nature corporation eh?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

GM seeds can last for 10 years....spreading over the world like a cancer destroying natural crops the world around through transgenic mutation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7324654.stm

Food...the new weapon for global population control and world domination.

Supersize my fries please..

LaterDays

I'm not going to defend Monsanto (I'm a physicist-turned-Patent-Attorney and I've actually litigated against Monsanto in a number of patent infringement suits), but this alarmist reaction to GMO foods is scientifically unsubstantiated. They're safe and they're here to stay.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Monsanto is a corporation whose products destroy natural crops by default, and take dominion of the worlds food supply into the hands of a few.

Who in their right mind would be ok with that?

That should be beyond illegal. It's genetic warfare. The more one finds out, the uglier it gets...