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Man Faces 30 Years For Stealing a Donut

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited October 2007 in A Moving Train
Sounds logical...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/07/national/main3340068.shtml
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    must have been a good donut
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    good to have sickos like this off the street.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I wonder if he was hungry?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I wonder if he was hungry?

    That would excuse assaulting a woman in your view?
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    jlew24asu wrote:
    good to have sickos like this off the street.

    this is a joke right?
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    jeffbr wrote:
    That would excuse assaulting a woman in your view?

    what assault?, he only pushed her out of the way, because he needed to run away. she tried to stop him by standing in front of him or trying to hold him, what was he supposed to do say "oh, excuse me, madam can you please give me a way"
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    its about the dougnut
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    genie wrote:
    what assault?, he only pushed her out of the way, because he needed to run away. she tried to stop him by standing in front of him or trying to hold him, what was he supposed to do say "oh, excuse me, madam can you please give me a way"

    its a lost cause..if these adults havent figured out the concept of ''getting away'' well they are forever lost :)
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jeffbr wrote:
    That would excuse assaulting a woman in your view?

    Huh?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    genie wrote:
    what assault?, he only pushed her out of the way, because he needed to run away. she tried to stop him by standing in front of him or trying to hold him, what was he supposed to do say "oh, excuse me, madam can you please give me a way"

    Learn the legal definition of assault, then come back.

    Also, you have no problem with a guy shoving a woman around, as long as he doesn't hit her?
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Huh?

    Just trying to figure out what relevance your comment had. What did hunger have to do with the situation?
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    there is me agruing on other threads about locking people up.....

    but here i see a person, who might not even need to be locked up, especially not for fucking 15 years! :eek:

    i know he is a repeated offender, but look at his crimes they are all petty crimes and some drug dealing. this person can be sorted out, and his attitued can be changed.....with good down to earth methods that is ;)
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jeffbr wrote:
    Just trying to figure out what relevance your comment had. What did hunger have to do with the situation?

    A donut is food...he was probably just hungry (obviously).
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    A donut is food...he was probably just hungry (obviously).

    So? He should have bought a donut then.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    genie wrote:
    there is me agruing on other threads about locking people up.....

    but here i see a person, who might not even need to be locked up, especially not for fucking 15 years! :eek:

    i know he is a repeated offender, but look at his crimes they are all petty crimes and some drug dealing. this person can be sorted out, and his attitued can be changed.....with good down to earth methods that is ;)

    I agree that 15 years is excessive. I also believe that he should get jail time for being a repeat offender and committing an assault. The length of incarceration would be the point of debate for me.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    so you are suggesting..he had money...but didnt want to make a major purchase of a donut?
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    jeffbr wrote:
    Learn the legal definition of assault, then come back.

    Also, you have no problem with a guy shoving a woman around, as long as he doesn't hit her?

    oh, don't worry i knew that to push someone is already an assualt.

    but i think in this situation it's no biggie. of course i don't like wife-beaters! i like wife-shovers :D
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    he wont get 30 years. he wont get 15. he might get 30 days. its just a shock tactic to get you to read the rest of the article.

    He did assault the woman though and should be punished for that (i guess. doesn't really say if he just brushed her or knocked her down, either way its legally assault and battery). If I try to stop you from stealing my shit and you hit me, thats assault.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jeffbr wrote:
    I agree that 15 years is excessive. I also believe that he should get jail time for being a repeat offender and committing an assault. The length of incarceration would be the point of debate for me.


    I'm with you on this one...Let's say he stole a gun and ran out the store...I'd be willing to bet those focusing on the object he stole would think differently...
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jeffbr wrote:
    So? He should have bought a donut then.

    I'm thinking he probably didn't have $, was hungry, and wasn't thinking the world would stop over a 52 cent donut.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I'm thinking he probably didn't have $, was hungry, and wasn't thinking the world would stop over a 52 cent donut.


    52 cents? He couldn't AFFORD 52 CENTS??

    I'm going to say that's a bit outlandish.

    The average begger can make 10 grand a year on a good street corner. He could have begged for 10 minutes outside the store and received enough for a coffee too.

    You know as well as anyone here he's not getting 30 years, that's the maximum for this type of crime. That almost NEVER happens. Even with a public defender

    He gets probation for being a dumbass and we go on our merry way. There are hundreds of ways hungry people can be fed legally if he was indeed hungry.
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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I'm thinking he probably didn't have $, was hungry, and wasn't thinking the world would stop over a 52 cent donut.

    yeah, and i bet it was one of those tasty, freshly baked doughnuts with strawberry filling inside. Of course this doughnut was screaming out to him "eat me, eat me!" , i mean come'on who can resist this temptation ;):D
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    52 cents? He couldn't AFFORD 52 CENTS??

    I'm going to say that's a bit outlandish.

    The average begger can make 10 grand a year on a good street corner. He could have begged for 10 minutes outside the store and received enough for a coffee too.

    You know as well as anyone here he's not getting 30 years, that's the maximum for this type of crime. That almost NEVER happens. Even with a public defender

    He gets probation for being a dumbass and we go on our merry way.

    it's not about the money, he gets high/kicks out of stealing
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Hungry, huh...

    I would hope if he were truly starving, he'd have made a better choice...

    it's not like Donuts are that filling...
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    52 cents? He couldn't AFFORD 52 CENTS??

    I'm going to say that's a bit outlandish.

    The average begger can make 10 grand a year on a good street corner. He could have begged for 10 minutes outside the store and received enough for a coffee too.

    You know as well as anyone here he's not getting 30 years, that's the maximum for this type of crime. That almost NEVER happens. Even with a public defender

    He gets probation for being a dumbass and we go on our merry way. There are hundreds of ways hungry people can be fed legally if he was indeed hungry.


    Ever been in a lengthy situation here you had no money on you, and you're starving?

    Try it sometime.

    Let me know what you think about when you walk by a hotdog vendor, or a bakery.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    inmytree wrote:
    Hungry, huh...

    I would hope if he were truly starving, he'd have made a better choice...

    it's not like Donuts are that filling...


    this i think is the dumbest post ever
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    i wonder if he is lactose intolerant...cuz milk and donuts is so good
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    macgyver06 wrote:
    this i think is the dumbest post ever

    thanks! this means a lot coming from you, with you being a former stardog champ and all...:rolleyes:

    by the way, what's the criteria for this aware I've received...
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Ever been in a lengthy situation here you had no money on you, and you're starving?

    Try it sometime.

    Let me know what you think about when you walk by a hotdog vendor, or a bakery.

    I'll go back to my original question to you:

    "That would excuse assaulting a woman in your view?"
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    if it was my store...he would of been able to walk out the door with it.
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