a place like the pentagon should have high definition footage of the plane coming in to show all us Americans exactly how it happened. we can get a license plate # from a satellite pic from space but the pentagon doesn't have surveillance video they can show us to prove it was actually a plane that hit?
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The most i believe is they allowed it to happen. So why should i discount NIST, FEMA and the fire chief?
Whenever i ask a slightly difficult question, someone like you throws a hissy fit and tells me i'm not supposed to question the official report as i believe xyz.
Where's this so-called hissy fit you speak of? I simply presented something that may or may not have happened that day. Just as you cannot convict someone on a 3 second blurb from a PBS interview, you cannot and should not assume that the building was blown up by way of explosives without substantial proof. I never said you shouldn't question the official report. I, in my response, presented a hypotheses that would discount the official report (firefighters returning to WTC7 after 11:30) and in doing so I answered your "difficult" question. Boy you CT's have a short fuse, don't ya?
"The leads are weak!"
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
Where's this so-called hissy fit you speak of? I simply presented something that may or may not have happened that day. Just as you cannot convict someone on a 3 second blurb from a PBS interview, you cannot and should not assume that the building was blown up by way of explosives without substantial proof. I never said you shouldn't question the official report. I, in my response, presented a hypotheses that would discount the official report (firefighters returning to WTC7 after 11:30) and in doing so I answered your "difficult" question. Boy you CT's have a short fuse, don't ya?
Right so anyone who has a valid question about what happened on 9/11 is assumed a CT?
I don't assume anything i am asking a valid question, theres a load of them but you guys who love the "official" story just assume you have all the answers.
Maybe you should take a little history lesson if you think the world as it is presented to you by the media and the goverment is the whole truth.
So ok if firefighters went back in after 11.30 who ordered them in considering the fire chief said they were ordered out at 11.30. Why would the fire chief lie about ordering them out? Or not say that they went back in?
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
you love being fair, thats nice. but if bombs were planted, then the people planting the bombs would know.
how can the government round up several americans, get them to plant bombs, and somehow denote it and the perfect time without anyone noticing.
and not a single person coming forward. they have tooo much to gain by telling their story.
I cant even get into this wacky bullshit.
all I know is speedy was probably in on it.
Thats right smarty pants side step the issue here that the evidence was taken away before anyone had the chance to look at it. Why not try thinking about what i actually said instead of asking a pointless question about people that should have come forward.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Thats right smarty pants side step the issue here that the evidence was taken away before anyone had the chance to look at it. Why not try thinking about what i actually said instead of asking a pointless question about people that should have come forward.
Right so anyone who has a valid question about what happened on 9/11 is assumed a CT?
I don't assume anything i am asking a valid question, theres a load of them but you guys who love the "official" story just assume you have all the answers.
Maybe you should take a little history lesson if you think the world as it is presented to you by the media and the goverment is the whole truth.
So ok if firefighters went back in after 11.30 who ordered them in considering the fire chief said they were ordered out at 11.30. Why would the fire chief lie about ordering them out? Or not say that they went back in?
Your posts point to alternative solutions with a conspiracy involved, thus I labeled you a CT. If I am mistaken, I apologize. Again, if I was only an "official" story junkie I wouldn't be coming up with possibilities and suggestions that I do. As to your last question, any and all reports from 9/11 that I have read (correct me if youtube says something different) was that the communications that day were anything but ideal. People talking over each other, alternating channels being used, not sure who a rescue worker was talking to or where they were, etc. In all of that, do you think that it is possible, that one of the later arriving brigades missed the fire chiefs order? And considering the size of Ground Zero would said Fire Chief even be aware if a fire crew went back into WTC 7? Again, if the building was being "pulled" for demolition with explosives, why wait until 5:30? Finally, and once again, I could be completely wrong in my suggestions, but that is why they are suggestions with an open mind, not theories with nothing to back them up.
"The leads are weak!"
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
If there is so much evidence to prove there is a conspiracy, how come no one has taken the government to task on this and taken them to to court? Wrongful death and fraud are just a couple instances a citizen could bring about.
I thought the government could not be sued?
Is this not correct? It stems from a broad interpretation of the 11th ammendment:
Amendment 11 - Judicial Limits. Ratified 2/7/1795. Note History
The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.
The ammendment on the face only prohibits suits brought against a state from a citizen of another state, but so far as i understand, modern judicial review has ruled that this ammendment indemnifies the federal government of the United States against any suit brought forth from any citizen of any state.
Kinda BS if you ask me.
You can read up on this on one of the sections of the WeThePeople.org site ... pretty sure you can not sue the government.
But you tell me.
I dunno.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
you love being fair, thats nice. but if bombs were planted, then the people planting the bombs would know.
how can the government round up several americans, get them to plant bombs, and somehow denote it and the perfect time without anyone noticing.
and not a single person coming forward. they have tooo much to gain by telling their story.
I cant even get into this wacky bullshit.
all I know is speedy was probably in on it.
If there were only a few people involved the easiest way to make sure they never talk is to kill them, but it all seems a little far fetched. Somehow they missed Speedy though, so now you just signed his death notice by outing him. Way to go.
If there were only a few people involved the easiest way to make sure they never talk is to kill them, but it all seems a little far fetched. Somehow they missed Speedy though, so now you just signed his death notice by outing him. Way to go.
i did not plant any bombs in any buildings on 9-11..........
i was out hunting bigfoot that day.........
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
If there were only a few people involved the easiest way to make sure they never talk is to kill them, but it all seems a little far fetched. Somehow they missed Speedy though, so now you just signed his death notice by outing him. Way to go.
i did not plant any bombs in any buildings on 9-11..........
i was out hunting bigfoot that day.........
sasquatch hunter too huh? me too...man there's nothing like the feeling that comes over you the first time you actually see the footprints and compare your hand to it. awesome!!!
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Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
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I'll hold the pain
Release me
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http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=232653&page=11&highlight=Arizona+memos
Go to post number 162. There a lot of info I already rounded up.
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Like you somehow
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Where's this so-called hissy fit you speak of? I simply presented something that may or may not have happened that day. Just as you cannot convict someone on a 3 second blurb from a PBS interview, you cannot and should not assume that the building was blown up by way of explosives without substantial proof. I never said you shouldn't question the official report. I, in my response, presented a hypotheses that would discount the official report (firefighters returning to WTC7 after 11:30) and in doing so I answered your "difficult" question. Boy you CT's have a short fuse, don't ya?
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
"What's your name?"
"FUCK YOU! THAT"S MY NAME!"
Right so anyone who has a valid question about what happened on 9/11 is assumed a CT?
I don't assume anything i am asking a valid question, theres a load of them but you guys who love the "official" story just assume you have all the answers.
Maybe you should take a little history lesson if you think the world as it is presented to you by the media and the goverment is the whole truth.
So ok if firefighters went back in after 11.30 who ordered them in considering the fire chief said they were ordered out at 11.30. Why would the fire chief lie about ordering them out? Or not say that they went back in?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Thats right smarty pants side step the issue here that the evidence was taken away before anyone had the chance to look at it. Why not try thinking about what i actually said instead of asking a pointless question about people that should have come forward.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
But Area51 can keep secrets. Go figure.
I know. its where the passengers of flight 77 and 93 are.
Good to see your mind is opening up.
Your posts point to alternative solutions with a conspiracy involved, thus I labeled you a CT. If I am mistaken, I apologize. Again, if I was only an "official" story junkie I wouldn't be coming up with possibilities and suggestions that I do. As to your last question, any and all reports from 9/11 that I have read (correct me if youtube says something different) was that the communications that day were anything but ideal. People talking over each other, alternating channels being used, not sure who a rescue worker was talking to or where they were, etc. In all of that, do you think that it is possible, that one of the later arriving brigades missed the fire chiefs order? And considering the size of Ground Zero would said Fire Chief even be aware if a fire crew went back into WTC 7? Again, if the building was being "pulled" for demolition with explosives, why wait until 5:30? Finally, and once again, I could be completely wrong in my suggestions, but that is why they are suggestions with an open mind, not theories with nothing to back them up.
"The leads are weak? Fuckin' leads are weak? You're Weak! I've Been in this business 15 years"
"What's your name?"
"FUCK YOU! THAT"S MY NAME!"
I thought the government could not be sued?
Is this not correct? It stems from a broad interpretation of the 11th ammendment:
Amendment 11 - Judicial Limits. Ratified 2/7/1795. Note History
The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.
The ammendment on the face only prohibits suits brought against a state from a citizen of another state, but so far as i understand, modern judicial review has ruled that this ammendment indemnifies the federal government of the United States against any suit brought forth from any citizen of any state.
Kinda BS if you ask me.
You can read up on this on one of the sections of the WeThePeople.org site ... pretty sure you can not sue the government.
But you tell me.
I dunno.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Here's something on Flight 93. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
you're kidding right?
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
wacky bullshit???
thats a fucking understatement....
its fucking delusional....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
If there were only a few people involved the easiest way to make sure they never talk is to kill them, but it all seems a little far fetched. Somehow they missed Speedy though, so now you just signed his death notice by outing him. Way to go.
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i was out hunting bigfoot that day.........
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
eh, he had a good run
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me