Pentagon ‘three-day blitz’ plan for Iran

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Can someone link me to ANY substantial proof that Iran is a threat of any sort?

    PLEASE?

    All i hear is talk ... lots of fucking talking heads babbling about "dangerous Iran"

    But NO ONE has shown me ONE REASON for this declaration.

    It's just "I say so. You better listen. They ARE dangerous."

    WHY ?


    here are two reasons. and what if Alex Jones thought they are a threat? would you believe it then? im serious


    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-04-11-iran-iraq-bombs_N.htm

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/14ee1ccc-465b-11da-8880-00000e2511c8.html
  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    it repeats in cycles....

    Isn't that a bit redundant?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    69charger wrote:
    Isn't that a bit redundant?

    Once could say cyclical rather, but some things are perhaps trivial...no?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    here are two reasons. and what if Alex Jones thought they are a threat? would you believe it then? im serious


    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-04-11-iran-iraq-bombs_N.htm

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/14ee1ccc-465b-11da-8880-00000e2511c8.html


    Ask yourself who is occupying who? Go as far back in time as you need to.

    Cause and effect.

    Are they not human?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    here are two reasons. and what if Alex Jones thought they are a threat? would you believe it then? im serious


    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-04-11-iran-iraq-bombs_N.htm

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/14ee1ccc-465b-11da-8880-00000e2511c8.html

    Ok so let me get this straight it's ok for America to train up whoever they so choose, many army's from different countries come to mind, south america for some. But not Iran? Cough propaganda cough.

    You just eat it for breakfast don't you.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    Ok so let me get this straight it's ok for America to train up whoever they so choose, many army's from different countries come to mind, south america for some. But not Iran? Cough propaganda cough.

    You just eat it for breakfast don't you.

    sorry I dont think its ok for Iran to train armies to kill americans. good to know you and roland do though.

    are you both hoping for american to get another attack next tuesday as well?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sorry I dont think its ok for Iran to train armies to kill americans. good to know you and roland do though.

    are you both hoping for american to get another attack next tuesday as well?


    Yet what are Americans trained to do?

    Sorry did you answer my question on who is occupying whom?

    Who is the aggressor? Who is building permanent military bases everywhere on this planet?

    And you are surprised at their reaction how again?

    I don't remember if you did answer any of that.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Yet what are Americans trained to do?

    Sorry did you answer my question on who is occupying whom?

    Who is the aggressor? Who is building permanent military bases everywhere on this planet?

    And you are surprised at their reaction how again?

    I don't remember if you did answer any of that.

    sounds to me like you are actually cheering for Americans to get killed. after all we are the aggressors right?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sounds to me like you are actually cheering for Americans to get killed. after all we are the aggressors right?

    No, but you need to look at the facts of the matter, unless you like how things are now.

    You don't seem to see anything outside of picture perfect America as being human or being allowed to exhibit any opposition to foreign aggression. Who is occupying who? Who is where and shooting up what and for how long? This seems to elude you entirely. There is a history of it as well. Can you understand how that works and how it affects things, people and places?

    Have you ever traveled outside of America. If so, where.

    There is a right way and a wrong way. The US has a long history of the wrong way. It's no mystery...it's all there in black and white.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    No, but you need to look at the facts of the matter, unless you like how things are now.

    You don't seem to see anything outside of picture perfect America as being human or being allowed to exhibit any opposition to foreign aggression. Who is occupying who? Who is where and shooting up what and for how long? This seems to elude you entirely. There is a history of it as well. Can you understand how that works and how it affects things, people and places?
    america is occupying Iraq. but what is the main goal? to have Iraq operate as a free country. you make it sound like we are trying to set up the 51st state. Iraqis cant seem to get along with themselves. is that our fault? maybe they should hold some accountability for blowing themselves up. they are human right?
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Have you ever traveled outside of America. If so, where.
    I travel internationally for work every few months. Ijust got back from Dubai of all places. amazing building boom (no pun intended) they have going on over there. I have also been to Italy, The Netherlands, England, Croatia, Ireland, and the Crech Republic. Dubai was my first trip to the middle east. the potential for prosperity is unlimited. you may think the problem is America, but its actually brutal dictators in the middle east that dont allow growth. or freedom for that matter
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    There is a right way and a wrong way. The US has a long history of the wrong way. It's no mystery...it's all there in black and white.
    a long history? whats that Vietnam? what else?
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    jlew24asu wrote:
    america is occupying Iraq. but what is the main goal? to have Iraq operate as a free country. you make it sound like we are trying to set up the 51st state. Iraqis cant seem to get along with themselves. is that our fault? maybe they should hold some accountability for blowing themselves up. they are human right?

    They seemed to be "doing fine" under a stabilized leadership.
    How much blowing up was there under saddam? I'm not defending the guy, but come on. You kill our president and let RUSSIA run the US, you think it is gonna be stable here !?!
    jlew24asu wrote:
    a long history? whats that Vietnam? what else?

    Uh. Let's see. The Spanish American War (stealing cuba, guam, and puerto rico!) ... and pretty much every imperialist action of McKinley

    Any foreign operation the CIA has been involved in.

    The overthrow of Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh, IRAN's first publicly elected leader, BY THE CIA in 1953

    Lets not forget the savage American Indians ... what a bunch of assholes. Good thing we killed all those murderous fuckers. ??? :( ???

    Supporting Sadam Hussein

    Supporting and ARMING the Shah of Iran

    Supporting The Taliban

    Bay of Pigs. Murdering JFK

    The systematic murder and political derailment of every member of the Kennedy family

    most if not everything on this list of US interventions in Latin American affairs

    SLAVERY

    Racism, the KKK, white supremacy

    The War on Drugs

    Blind support for Israel, disregard for Israeli war crimes, UN violations, etc. Watch this movie

    The World Bank

    The World Trade Organization

    The International Monetary Fund

    Globalism

    Gross unregulated capitalism

    The surrender of personal liberty and the steady rise of the police state

    The surrender of soverign monitary policy to a central privatized international investment bank, misnamed The Federal Reserve that has been raping up bloody for the past 100 years!

    Rigged Elections

    Is that a good start for you?

    Think first.
    Remember that the people in control of this country don't always represent the best interests or the true intentions of the country's honesty folk.

    :(
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    america is occupying Iraq. but what is the main goal? to have Iraq operate as a free country. you make it sound like we are trying to set up the 51st state. Iraqis cant seem to get along with themselves. is that our fault? maybe they should hold some accountability for blowing themselves up. they are human right?

    I travel internationally for work every few months. Ijust got back from Dubai of all places. amazing building boom (no pun intended) they have going on over there. I have also been to Italy, The Netherlands, England, Croatia, Ireland, and the Crech Republic. Dubai was my first trip to the middle east. the potential for prosperity is unlimited. you may think the problem is America, but its actually brutal dictators in the middle east that dont allow growth. or freedom for that matter

    a long history? whats that Vietnam? what else?


    You must have a very strong aversion to reading about history then.

    Iraq is not about helping people, is about people helping themselves to Iraq.

    You are either lying, or you have a personal agenda. You fit the Zionist mold perfectly.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    They seemed to be "doing fine" under a stabilized leadership.

    doing fine? good thing you put it in quotes. you must know how idiotic that really is. saddam caused more death and fear then any leader in the history of mankind. doing fine? wow


    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    How much blowing up was there under saddam?
    alot. how wiping out entire villages in the north

    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    I'm not defending the guy, but come on.
    but I thought they were doing fine with your buddy saddam. sure sounds like you defending him to me
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    You kill our president and let RUSSIA run the US, you think it is gonna be stable here !?!
    last I checked Iraqis have their own government in place. sunnis and shiites hate each other. thats the probelm
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    jlew24asu wrote:
    doing fine? good thing you put it in quotes. you must know how idiotic that really is. saddam caused more death and fear then any leader in the history of mankind. doing fine? wow



    alot. how wiping out entire villages in the north


    but I thought they were doing fine with your buddy saddam. sure sounds like you defending him to me

    last I checked Iraqis have their own government in place. sunnis and shiites hate each other. thats the probelm

    fine jlew.
    you win.

    saddam was a tyrant and needed to be taken out.
    it's a good thing truly virtuous super powers like the US exist in this world.
    and it's a tragedy that poor little nations like Iraq can't express the proper gratitude to us for "freeing" them, and that they can't get their country up and running properly.

    Man.
    Why did we even bother.

    Seriously.
    WHY DID WE EVEN BOTHER?
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

    Iraq is not about helping people, is about people helping themselves to Iraq.
    so Iraqis have no accountability for killing themselves?
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    You are either lying, or you have a personal agenda. You fit the Zionist mold perfectly.
    zionist? what does this have to do with Israel? unless im not understanding the definition of a zioinst
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    fine jlew.
    you win.

    saddam was a tyrant and needed to be taken out.
    it's a good thing truly virtuous super powers like the US exist in this world.
    and it's a tragedy that poor little nations like Iraq can't express the proper gratitude to us for "freeing" them, and that they can't get their country up and running properly.
    I didnt say he needed to be taken out.
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Man.
    Why did we even bother.

    Seriously.
    WHY DID WE EVEN BOTHER?
    keep it coming with the personal attacks. this place is great
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Nothing like making haste and killing a fly with a sledge hammer...in the the good ol US clusterfuck kinda way.

    It's perfect really. Do what we say and be exactly like us, or we drop everything and kill you.

    Beautiful message. How could anyone not love that peaceful, loving, helping message?

    yeap...really normal folks.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Nothing like making haste and killing a fly with a sledge hammer...in the the good ol US clusterfuck kinda way.

    It's perfect really. Do what we say and be exactly like us, or we drop everything and kill you.

    Beautiful message. How could anyone not love that peaceful, loving, helping message?

    yeap...really normal folks.

    always ending your debate with some not so funny zinger. if what you say is true then why havent we invaded north korea in the past 50 years? or the 30 or so fucked up countries in africa?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    always ending your debate with some not so funny zinger. if what you say is true then why havent we invaded north korea in the past 50 years? or the 30 or so fucked up countries in africa?

    Well there it is eh? Did I say something inaccurate?

    You really have a hard time with the facts of the matter for some reason.

    North Korea? Africa? You do understand the getting rich via exploitation (oil) part right? Of course you do.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Well there it is eh? Did I say something inaccurate?

    You really have a hard time with the facts of the matter for some reason.

    North Korea? Africa? You do understand the getting rich via exploitation (oil) part right? Of course you do.

    do you answer everything every question with a question. and yes you did say something that was inaccurate. if it was, we would have invaded NK years ago

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