Pentagon ‘three-day blitz’ plan for Iran

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edited September 2007 in A Moving Train
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2369001.ece

"The Pentagon has drawn up plans for massive air strikes against 1,200 targets in Iran, designed to annihilate the Iranians’ military capability in three days, according to a national security expert.

Alexis Debat, director of terrorism and national security at the Nixon Center, said last week that US military planners were not preparing for “pinprick strikes” against Iran’s nuclear facilities. “They’re about taking out the entire Iranian military,” he said."

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Doesn't surprise me. I mean it's not like the U.S needs any approval from the U.N or anybody else to go and bomb a soveriegn nation at will. The U.S is a rogue state by every definition of the term.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    The core oil and arms entrepreneurs with ties to American governance are well-fed right now. As for Iran I imagine, in their eyes, it isn't a matter of when so much as it is "how". Just as they waited for Iraq, they will wait for the right commander-in-chief who will do their dirty work. An Iran bombing campaign isn't going to happen anytime soon. Ivy league MBA's seem like good presidential timber for this kind of job.

    I'm begininning to wonder about Romney's chances. I think he may be the surprise winner of this thing in '08.

    http://www.portfolio.com/careers/features/2007/08/13/Mitt-Romney-MBA/?TID=rm/ask/Profile_of_Mitt_Romney/romney

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  • gue_barium wrote:

    I'm begininning to wonder about Romney's chances. I think he may be the surprise winner of this thing in '08.

    http://www.portfolio.com/careers/features/2007/08/13/Mitt-Romney-MBA/?TID=rm/ask/Profile_of_Mitt_Romney/romney


    don't even joke about it...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    don't even joke about it...

    I'm not. He's already surprised quite a few with his Iowa showing.

    He actually impressed me in a brief interview on CNN (I think it was CNN) recently...until it got to the end of the interview. There was something about his attitude that changed once the interview ended, as if he knew he had come across pretty good, but didn't really give two hoots about what he had said.

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Doesn't surprise me. I mean it's not like the U.S needs any approval from the U.N or anybody else to go and bomb a soveriegn nation at will. The U.S is a rogue state by every definition of the term.

    I'll grant you the "rogue state" definition on the Iraq campaign.
    We'll have our comeuppance on this, to be sure. It won't be at the hands of the Brits, though.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    gue_barium wrote:

    I'm begininning to wonder about Romney's chances. I think he may be the surprise winner of this thing in '08.

    *checks canadian housing prices*
  • gue_barium wrote:
    I'm not. He's already surprised quite a few with his Iowa showing.

    He actually impressed me in a brief interview on CNN (I think it was CNN) recently...until it got to the end of the interview. There was something about his attitude that changed once the interview ended, as if he knew he had come across pretty good, but didn't really give two hoots about what he had said.


    The Iowa thing is very misleading. He outspent his opponents by something like 30M...and some of the big names didn't even participate. A win is a win, but it isnt a good indicator of nation wide success.
    He is a big time BIG TIME phony...and will say literally anything to get elected.
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  • gue_barium wrote:
    I'm not. He's already surprised quite a few with his Iowa showing.

    He actually impressed me in a brief interview on CNN (I think it was CNN) recently...until it got to the end of the interview. There was something about his attitude that changed once the interview ended, as if he knew he had come across pretty good, but didn't really give two hoots about what he had said.


    take it from someone who lives in Massachusetts,Romney is a piece of shit.

    it wouldn't surprise me either,he is a boot licker and that's the type that become pres. now.(with a little help from electronic voting machines)
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  • I'm glad to hear they have a plan on the table for Iran. I hope they never use it, but if it was ever needed happy to hear a plan is on the table.
    I could just hear what people on this board would say if Iran attacked the US or invaded Iraq and attacked US troops and we didn't have a plan to handle it. Nothing wrong with having a plan.
  • I'm glad to hear they have a plan on the table for Iran. I hope they never use it, but if it was ever needed happy to hear a plan is on the table.
    I could just hear what people on this board would say if Iran attacked the US or invaded Iraq and attacked US troops and we didn't have a plan to handle it. Nothing wrong with having a plan.

    You watch too much Fox man...no seriously...it's that noticeable.

    Look at who is occupying whom...and wonder how you would react to having ...say.... a Chinese base built in your town and Chinese people policing and shooting up your neighborhood...

    What do you think you would do?

    It's occupation. Occupation is a flat out illegal act of aggression. It's illegal.

    They have played into your fears and their doctrine has worked on you.

    Did Vietnam "follow us home"?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • JamMastaE wrote:
    take it from someone who lives in Massachusetts,Romney is a piece of shit.

    it wouldn't surprise me either,he is a boot licker and that's the type that become pres. now.(with a little help from electronic voting machines)


    A little bitty on Mitty. He's a devout Mormon...I think that's going to hurt him...

    If he gets elected does that mean I'll have those fuckers knocking on my door every day know? ...lol

    http://jessicafertitta.wordpress.com/2007/04/19/mormons-mitt-and-money-oh-my/

    .
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • You watch too much Fox man...no seriously...it's that noticeable.

    Look at who is occupying whom...and wonder how you would react to having ...say.... a Chinese base built in your town and Chinese people policing and shooting up your neighborhood...

    What do you think you would do?

    It's occupation. Occupation is a flat out illegal act of aggression. It's illegal.

    They have played into your fears and their doctrine has worked on you.

    Did Vietnam "follow us home"?


    I love that line, "they have played into your fears." What fears??? Fear comes from uncertainty and that happens when situations arise you aren't ready or prepared for.

    Maybe I'm crazy, but I think that's part of the government's job to have plans contingent on things happening. Be it wars or natural disasters. Granted our plans haven't been the best lately, Katrina comes to mind. But that will change.
  • I love that line, "they have played into your fears." What fears??? Fear comes from uncertainty and that happens when situations arise you aren't ready or prepared for.

    Maybe I'm crazy, but I think that's part of the government's job to have plans contingent on things happening. Be it wars or natural disasters. Granted our plans haven't been the best lately, Katrina comes to mind. But that will change.

    The fear that makes you feel good there is a plan in place to destroy Iran for starters.

    Do you really think Iran is going to invade the US anytime soon (or ever)?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • The fear that makes you feel good there is a plan in place to destroy Iran for starters.

    Do you really think Iran is going to invade the US anytime soon (or ever)?

    I guess I don't consider preparedness fear.

    No, but I didn't think two planes would take down the world trade center buildings either. And I'm not saying that Iran Iraq or anyone other then some radical Sauds where responsible for that. All I'm saying is you never know what's going to happen.

    Yes I know you think 9/11 was an inside job but lets try to keep this conversation from not falling into that discussion.

    I have to leave now and watch some fox news, we can pick this up a little later if you'd like.
  • I guess I don't consider preparedness fear.

    No, but I didn't think two planes would take down the world trade center buildings either. And I'm not saying that Iran Iraq or anyone other then some radical Sauds where responsible for that. All I'm saying is you never know what's going to happen.

    Yes I know you think 9/11 was an inside job but lets try to keep this conversation from not falling into that discussion.

    I have to leave now and watch some fox news, we can pick this up a little later if you'd like.

    Good luck with your news and views...one day you will realize what happened and what is going on.

    Remember Vietnam. Remember history, it repeats in cycles....for a long time now.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • Can someone link me to ANY substantial proof that Iran is a threat of any sort?

    PLEASE?

    All i hear is talk ... lots of fucking talking heads babbling about "dangerous Iran"

    But NO ONE has shown me ONE REASON for this declaration.

    It's just "I say so. You better listen. They ARE dangerous."

    WHY ?
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  • Cypress hill said it best: Insane in the membrane...(insane in the brain)

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2369001.ece

    "The Pentagon has drawn up plans for massive air strikes against 1,200 targets in Iran, designed to annihilate the Iranians’ military capability in three days, according to a national security expert.

    Alexis Debat, director of terrorism and national security at the Nixon Center, said last week that US military planners were not preparing for “pinprick strikes” against Iran’s nuclear facilities. “They’re about taking out the entire Iranian military,” he said."

    Should be the new Bush theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvV-upQVoFs

    no biggie, the military has hundreds of plans to attack many places and countries that are there just in case as a starting point, I'm sure their are many plans for Iran, nuclear and other.

    The important part isn't that the military has plans, that's expected, and shouldn't be blown out of perportion. It's any talk on capital hill, the white house, the pentagon or other about possible actions that we need to look for.
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  • no biggie, the military has hundreds of plans to attack many places and countries that are there just in case as a starting point, I'm sure their are many plans for Iran, nuclear and other.

    The important part isn't that the military has plans, that's expected, and shouldn't be blown out of perportion. It's any talk on capital hill, the white house, the pentagon or other about possible actions that we need to look for.


    I think that's a sad reality in itself. The US has military bases all over the world in so many countries. That in it's own right is alarming, and the west has become complacent to the reality of it. Imagine another country doing the same thing. How would you perceive it? Think about it.

    What's wrong with this picture?

    here is an (incomplete) list of just Air force:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Air_Force_bases

    It's a little past crazy already.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    Can someone link me to ANY substantial proof that Iran is a threat of any sort?

    PLEASE?

    All i hear is talk ... lots of fucking talking heads babbling about "dangerous Iran"

    But NO ONE has shown me ONE REASON for this declaration.

    It's just "I say so. You better listen. They ARE dangerous."

    WHY ?

    They don't need reason now, they spin some rubbish and sheeple eat it up.
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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    I think that's a sad reality in itself. The US has military bases all over the world in so many countries. That in it's own right is alarming, and the west has become complacent to the reality of it.

    Your right about that,
    Imagine another country doing the same thing. How would you perceive it? Think about it.

    It would never happen as america would have them before they even thought about it.

    There's only room for one bully on the planet and it hasn't changed for a few years.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Can someone link me to ANY substantial proof that Iran is a threat of any sort?

    PLEASE?

    All i hear is talk ... lots of fucking talking heads babbling about "dangerous Iran"

    But NO ONE has shown me ONE REASON for this declaration.

    It's just "I say so. You better listen. They ARE dangerous."

    WHY ?


    here are two reasons. and what if Alex Jones thought they are a threat? would you believe it then? im serious


    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-04-11-iran-iraq-bombs_N.htm

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/14ee1ccc-465b-11da-8880-00000e2511c8.html
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    it repeats in cycles....

    Isn't that a bit redundant?
  • 69charger wrote:
    Isn't that a bit redundant?

    Once could say cyclical rather, but some things are perhaps trivial...no?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    here are two reasons. and what if Alex Jones thought they are a threat? would you believe it then? im serious


    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-04-11-iran-iraq-bombs_N.htm

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/14ee1ccc-465b-11da-8880-00000e2511c8.html


    Ask yourself who is occupying who? Go as far back in time as you need to.

    Cause and effect.

    Are they not human?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    here are two reasons. and what if Alex Jones thought they are a threat? would you believe it then? im serious


    http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-04-11-iran-iraq-bombs_N.htm

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/14ee1ccc-465b-11da-8880-00000e2511c8.html

    Ok so let me get this straight it's ok for America to train up whoever they so choose, many army's from different countries come to mind, south america for some. But not Iran? Cough propaganda cough.

    You just eat it for breakfast don't you.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    Ok so let me get this straight it's ok for America to train up whoever they so choose, many army's from different countries come to mind, south america for some. But not Iran? Cough propaganda cough.

    You just eat it for breakfast don't you.

    sorry I dont think its ok for Iran to train armies to kill americans. good to know you and roland do though.

    are you both hoping for american to get another attack next tuesday as well?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    sorry I dont think its ok for Iran to train armies to kill americans. good to know you and roland do though.

    are you both hoping for american to get another attack next tuesday as well?


    Yet what are Americans trained to do?

    Sorry did you answer my question on who is occupying whom?

    Who is the aggressor? Who is building permanent military bases everywhere on this planet?

    And you are surprised at their reaction how again?

    I don't remember if you did answer any of that.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Yet what are Americans trained to do?

    Sorry did you answer my question on who is occupying whom?

    Who is the aggressor? Who is building permanent military bases everywhere on this planet?

    And you are surprised at their reaction how again?

    I don't remember if you did answer any of that.

    sounds to me like you are actually cheering for Americans to get killed. after all we are the aggressors right?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    sounds to me like you are actually cheering for Americans to get killed. after all we are the aggressors right?

    No, but you need to look at the facts of the matter, unless you like how things are now.

    You don't seem to see anything outside of picture perfect America as being human or being allowed to exhibit any opposition to foreign aggression. Who is occupying who? Who is where and shooting up what and for how long? This seems to elude you entirely. There is a history of it as well. Can you understand how that works and how it affects things, people and places?

    Have you ever traveled outside of America. If so, where.

    There is a right way and a wrong way. The US has a long history of the wrong way. It's no mystery...it's all there in black and white.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    No, but you need to look at the facts of the matter, unless you like how things are now.

    You don't seem to see anything outside of picture perfect America as being human or being allowed to exhibit any opposition to foreign aggression. Who is occupying who? Who is where and shooting up what and for how long? This seems to elude you entirely. There is a history of it as well. Can you understand how that works and how it affects things, people and places?
    america is occupying Iraq. but what is the main goal? to have Iraq operate as a free country. you make it sound like we are trying to set up the 51st state. Iraqis cant seem to get along with themselves. is that our fault? maybe they should hold some accountability for blowing themselves up. they are human right?
    Have you ever traveled outside of America. If so, where.
    I travel internationally for work every few months. Ijust got back from Dubai of all places. amazing building boom (no pun intended) they have going on over there. I have also been to Italy, The Netherlands, England, Croatia, Ireland, and the Crech Republic. Dubai was my first trip to the middle east. the potential for prosperity is unlimited. you may think the problem is America, but its actually brutal dictators in the middle east that dont allow growth. or freedom for that matter
    There is a right way and a wrong way. The US has a long history of the wrong way. It's no mystery...it's all there in black and white.
    a long history? whats that Vietnam? what else?
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