Obama determined to pursue an 'aggressive diplomacy' with the Islamic Republic
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In a nutshell....let's get the troops out of Iraq so we can deal with (and threaten to use them) in Iran...
"In an exclusive interview with Israel's Ynet news, Obama described Iran as 'the gravest threat to Israel' and warned that diplomacy is not enough to keep Iran from pursuing nuclear weaponry.
"The threat from Iran is real, and my goal as President will be to eliminate it. Ending the war in Iraq will be an important step toward achieving this goal, because it will increase our flexibility and our credibility when we deal with Iran. Make no mistake; Iran has been the biggest strategic beneficiary of the war in Iraq, and I intend to change that," Obama said. "
hmm...
In a nutshell....let's get the troops out of Iraq so we can deal with (and threaten to use them) in Iran...
"In an exclusive interview with Israel's Ynet news, Obama described Iran as 'the gravest threat to Israel' and warned that diplomacy is not enough to keep Iran from pursuing nuclear weaponry.
"The threat from Iran is real, and my goal as President will be to eliminate it. Ending the war in Iraq will be an important step toward achieving this goal, because it will increase our flexibility and our credibility when we deal with Iran. Make no mistake; Iran has been the biggest strategic beneficiary of the war in Iraq, and I intend to change that," Obama said. "
hmm...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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The greatest threat to Israel is US Foreign Policy.
Period.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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Obama....is....full.....of.....shite. He's Jimmy Carter. You cant seriously believe this guy is going to step up to Iran and protect Israel? Never happen.0
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Wow that's interesting....end one war to start another....the US war mongering continues.
Just BRILLIANT!
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Hollyweird wrote:Obama....is....full.....of.....shite. He's Jimmy Carter. You cant seriously believe this guy is going to step up to Iran and protect Israel? Never happen.
If history is any indication at all, when resources are desired you can bet your ass this will definitely happen. Especially if there's a "cause(s)" behind it all as well. The money will be there regardless of who is standing at the podium.
Again history tells the tale of what is to come. Left..Right...doesn't matter one bit.
I've been saying it for a long time now. Iran is in the cross hairs, and it is the prize.
It's coming.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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All this should be great news for you conspiracy theory nut jobs! Things are lookin up for you guys!0
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binauralsounds wrote:All this should be great news for you conspiracy theory nut jobs! Things are lookin up for you guys!
nut jobs....
nice
...learn much after school got out did you?Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Obama is not going to attack Iran. Settle down and eat some fruit.0
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LikeAnOcean wrote:Obama is not going to attack Iran. Settle down and eat some fruit.
Bush wanted to attack Iran and now the Next President will also want to continue our aggresive attack on this country.
It is coming whether it's Obama or MaCain or Hillary.
Peace*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)0 -
If it walks like a conspiracy and talks like a conspiracy, chances are its a conspiracy. And thanks for keeping this thread positive.binauralsounds wrote:All this should be great news for you conspiracy theory nut jobs! Things are lookin up for you guys!0 -
LikeAnOcean wrote:Obama is not going to attack Iran. Settle down and eat some fruit.
And you say this why exactly?
Ever play with fire and burn something you didn't intend to? Ever follow the seemingly endless US conflicts and see what has transpired there again and agiain, and again and why?
Ever figure out that politicians are more or less puppets to serve as distraction?
Ever look into how various secret service organizations operate?
I'm thinking probably not.
You should. There are many viable reasons Iran should be worked over under new ownership according to some. Many indeed.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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"Aggressive diplomacy," meaning very strong attempts at DIPLOMACY.
Where does it say he's going to attack Iran? I must have missed it.It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win0 -
DOSW wrote:"Aggressive diplomacy," meaning very strong attempts at DIPLOMACY.
Where does it say he's going to attack Iran? I must have missed it.
What exactly do you think he meant by, "Ending the war in Iraq will be an important step toward achieving this goal, because it will increase our flexibility and our credibility when we deal with Iran." ?
What flexibility do we gain by getting our troops out of Iraq with respect to Iran?
Are our troops going to join in the "dealing" with Iran?
:rolleyes:
The thing that bothers me most is that there IS NO CASE FOR A WAR WITH IRAN.
It is 100% trumped up.
It makes even less sense than war with Iraq did.
On what fucking grounds do we plan to get agressive with them?
Because they've said "not so nice" things about Israel?
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DriftingByTheStorm wrote:What exactly do you think he meant by, "Ending the war in Iraq will be an important step toward achieving this goal, because it will increase our flexibility and our credibility when we deal with Iran." ?
What flexibility do we gain by getting our troops out of Iraq with respect to Iran?
Are our troops going to join in the "dealing" with Iran?
:rolleyes:
The thing that bothers me most is that there IS NO CASE FOR A WAR WITH IRAN.
It is 100% trumped up.
It makes even less sense than war with Iraq did.
On what fucking grounds do we plan to get agressive with them?
Because they've said "not so nice" things about Israel?
Please.
"Ending the war in Iraq will be an important step toward achieving this goal, because it will increase our flexibility and our credibility when we deal with Iran" is a ridiculously vague statement. He probably meant that we would have more credibility because Iran would know we have troops available if things go horribly wrong. He's not saying we're going to attack them. He's saying we'll have the means to defend ourselves if necessary. He's said nothing, that I've heard at least, about attacking Iran without something drastic happening first.
You're just trying to make something out of nothing here, as usual. You're assuming things and believing what you want to believe.
Do you even know what "diplomacy" is?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/diplomacyIt's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win0 -
...and this is why the elites run roughshod over the population...
History shows us PROVEN examples over and over (and over and over) again...
what do some people learn after all this? ...absolutely nothing..
but they are defiant somehow....which is indeed puzzling...astonishing really.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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DOSW wrote:"Ending the war in Iraq will be an important step toward achieving this goal, because it will increase our flexibility and our credibility when we deal with Iran" is a ridiculously vague statement. He probably meant that we would have more credibility because Iran would know we have troops available if things go horribly wrong. He's not saying we're going to attack them. He's saying we'll have the means to defend ourselves if necessary. He's said nothing, that I've heard at least, about attacking Iran without something drastic happening first.
You're just trying to make something out of nothing here, as usual. You're assuming things and believing what you want to believe.
Do you even know what "diplomacy" is?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/diplomacy
Who is the one "believing what you want to believe" here, exactly?
What on Gods fucking green earth do you think we wil need our troops to DEFEND ourselves from !?!?
WHAT exactly?
The United States has been the aggressor in this region for the last HOW MANY years?
Who is the one selling arms by the billions to every fucking side over there right now?
Who is the one literally forcing the region in to conflict?
And you think the guy wants our troops to DEFEND if needed?
WHAT IS IRAN GOING TO DO?
WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON HERE?
America is the one bullying every fucking country (uh, except Israel of course) in the region in to submission ... or dropping bombs if that fails.
What the fuck do you want Iran to do?
Bend over and take Obamas Alabama Black Snake suprise?
They have been trying to acquire nuclear POWER for the past decade PLUS ... and America was once supportive and AIDING Iran in this quest, and then turned its back and tried to embargo the country in to submission.
I don't know what exactly you want to accuse Iran of other than having extremist views -- which granted are troublesome from a US perspective -- but that is no right for us to get all bully bully with them.
The attitude in this country is ridiculous.
There is no fucking reason for "diplomacy" which is just a polite term for "stern talking to, with possible consequences for failure to comply" with a country that is only trying to deal with its own domestic policies without US interference.
If America was not so fucking agressive and was not constantly bringing in the CIA and killing elected leaders, and manipulating an entire region, and generaly pissing a whole culture off, we wouldn't need any fucking "diplomacy" because we are basicaly fighitng our way out of a whole we dug ourself in to.
Just because Obama is bringing a "kinder, gentler police man's hand" to the region don't make it honorable or more tolerable.
They are just dressing up the same game with a new suit and a different name ... its pure imperialist bullshit.
This Unchecked Aggression Will Not Stand!If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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Wow, you sure have determined a lot from something Obama has never said. :rolleyes:
Can't you hear yourself?
Troops would send a message that we're serious. It's playing hardball, meant to make Iran nervous. Leverage. It's miles away from a full scale invasion like you suggest. Having troops ready and using them are two completely different tactics.
Fact of the matter is, you can't conclude from one vague line that he's going to invade Iran when it's clear that it wasn't his meaning. It's ridiculous.
Also, use more words in all caps, it makes you look smart.It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win0 -
DOSW wrote:Wow, you sure have determined a lot from something Obama has never said. :rolleyes:
Can't you hear yourself?
Troops would send a message that we're serious. It's playing hardball, meant to make Iran nervous. Leverage. It's miles away from a full scale invasion like you suggest. Having troops ready and using them are two completely different tactics.
Fact of the matter is, you can't conclude from one vague line that he's going to invade Iran when it's clear that it wasn't his meaning. It's ridiculous.
Also, use more words in all caps, it makes you look smart.
I wish people on here could get the fuck over my use of capital letters. Give me a fucking break.
Anyhow.
You should hear YOUR self.
Like I said, what the fuck do you THINK the man is talking about?
What exactly is it that Iran is doing that warrants ANY kind of aggressive talk?
Its fucking BULLSHIT.
The fact that Obama is even going on about Iran in the first place is enough reason for me to believe he is full of shit about the whole thing.
There is NO REASON for us to even be bothering with Iran at this moment in history.
It is pure unchecked agression on OUR part. Not on THEIR part.
What exactly is Obama "playing hardball" about? What is this "make them nervous" bullshit?
IT MAKES ME NERVOUS!
???
We have ZERO business even stirring the pot with that region. Iran has done NOTHING to us. NOTHING.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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And here is the motive....http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=79980
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And here is the motive....http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=79980
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DriftingByTheStorm wrote:There is NO REASON for us to even be bothering with Iran at this moment in history.
Nukes. Or so the story goes.It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win0
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