Canada places U.S and Israel on torture watch list

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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    jlew24asu wrote:
    its a non democratic country that does not recognize Israel. and we are best friends. thats the only country I've been to in the middle east, I would love to go to more but yea...
    I've been into other middle eastern countries (never dubai though) and they don't feel very warm towards americans in general. It's stupid but it's like this, if you're american you're categorized as an evil person, and strangely the poorer they are the more you see that feeling come up.
    In Cairo I've already been obliged to quickly say that I'm european to see a more friendly face in front of me. I hate that kind of shit but it's like this right now.
  • theroachman
    theroachman Posts: 362
    Indian Summer wrote:
    LMAO!!!!! Funny, yet true!

    And people wonder why the US has lost so much credibitly around the world.

    I think Canada should up the price of thier oil. Lets say 1.00 USD per gallon.

    Would people like you start listing to Canada if 30% of the US oil just added nearly a third on to the price per gallon?

    eh?
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no one really cares what canada has to say
    I'm Canadian and I don't care what Canada has to say on this subject.

    It's just talk for the sake of talking. Just pure meaningless bullshit.
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Kann wrote:
    I've been into other middle eastern countries (never dubai though) and they don't feel very warm towards americans in general. It's stupid but it's like this, if you're american you're categorized as an evil person, and strangely the poorer they are the more you see that feeling come up.
    In Cairo I've already been obliged to quickly say that I'm european to see a more friendly face in front of me. I hate that kind of shit but it's like this right now.

    sadly this is true in most middle east countries. except dubai and probably kuwait.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MCG wrote:
    This was a thread about torture was it not? I don't see why it has to turn into USA vs Canada.

    Why can't we both just be proud we live in 2 of the best countries on the planet?


    Exactly Thank you. Regardless of all the attempted sidetracking, these two countries listed in the original article, do in fact torture people, and consider it acceptable.

    That's pretty sick.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Exactly Thank you. Regardless of all the attempted sidetracking, these two countries listed in the original article, do in fact torture people, and consider it acceptable.

    That's pretty sick.

    no its not acceptable in the US or proven.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    theroachman wrote:
    And people wonder why the US has lost so much credibitly around the world.

    I think Canada should up the price of thier oil. Lets say 1.00 USD per gallon.

    Would people like you start listing to Canada if 30% of the US oil just added nearly a third on to the price per gallon?

    eh?

    uhh ... oil is like at $90 a barrel ... which is about over $2 a gallon i think ...
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no its not acceptable in the US or proven.

    really? um yeah ok...if you say so...

    but then there's reality of what has happened, and is taking place...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    really? um yeah ok...if you say so...

    but then there's reality of what has happened, and is taking place...

    um yeah ok...if you say so...
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    um yeah ok...if you say so...


    you're fooling only yourself btw..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    you're fooling only yourself btw..

    do you have any concept of debating something? that is the purpose of this board ya know.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    do you have any concept of debating something? that is the purpose of this board ya know.


    Properly debating something means having a concept of what is actually taking place in reality. My original post in this thread might serve as some kind of indication ;)

    in case you needed direction on which way is up :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/canada_usa_torture_col

    Under "definition of torture" the document lists U.S. interrogation techniques such as forced nudity, isolation, sleep deprivation and blindfolding prisoners.
    thats toture?

    "The United States does not permit, tolerate, or condone torture under any circumstances," said a spokeswoman for the U.S. embassy in Ottawa.

    A spokesman for Foreign Minister Maxime Bernier tried to distance Ottawa from the document.

    "The training manual is not a policy document and does not reflect the views or policies of this government," he said.





    Other countries on the watch list include Syria, China, Iran, Afghanistan, Mexico and Saudi Arabia. theres a shocker. I wonder if their techniques are worse then nudity?
  • Being Enlightened
    Being Enlightened Posts: 5,746
    jlew24asu wrote:
    no its not acceptable in the US or proven.

    It may not be acceptable but, it has been proven.

    Declassed docs:

    http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jul2005/d20050714report.pdf

    Related news:

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/torture/
    http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/05/10/040510fa_fact
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/27/60II/main614063.shtml
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Being Enlightened wrote:
    It may not be acceptable but, it has been proven.

    Declassed docs:

    http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jul2005/d20050714report.pdf

    Related news:

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/torture/
    http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/05/10/040510fa_fact
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/27/60II/main614063.shtml

    Everyone must have imagined it...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Everyone must have imagined it...

    really?


    http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jul2...0714report.pdf



    The AR 15-6 found no evidence of torture or inhumane treatment at JTF-GTMO.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    really?


    http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jul2...0714report.pdf



    The AR 15-6 found no evidence of torture or inhumane treatment at JTF-GTMO.



    not only do you drink it...you serve it...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    not only do you drink it...you serve it...

    I didnt post the article genius.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I didnt post the article genius.

    But you hold it above all other evidence in spite of, or am I mistaken about that?

    Of course they're going to proclaim themselves innocent in an internal investigation. Who wouldn't? What would you expect the outcome to be?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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