Oh nice... Go Apartheid!!! It's Kosher to Kill Palestinians
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"The association of rabbis for the people and land of Israel headed by extremist rabbi Dov Lior issued on Wednesday a religious ruling legitimizing the shelling of Palestinian civilian gatherings by IOF troops at the pretext of responding to the rocket attacks carried out by the Palestinians.
According to this ruling, the Torah permits the shelling and bombing of Palestinian rocket sources even if there are civilians living there and considers that the Israeli army must sometimes respond to the source of fire immediately without giving any advance warning to the Palestinian civilians."
"The association of rabbis for the people and land of Israel headed by extremist rabbi Dov Lior issued on Wednesday a religious ruling legitimizing the shelling of Palestinian civilian gatherings by IOF troops at the pretext of responding to the rocket attacks carried out by the Palestinians.
According to this ruling, the Torah permits the shelling and bombing of Palestinian rocket sources even if there are civilians living there and considers that the Israeli army must sometimes respond to the source of fire immediately without giving any advance warning to the Palestinian civilians."
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Does this mean we will be adding Israel to the list of states that harbor and sponsor terrorists?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
It sure looks that was doesn't it...
I guess Israel just voluntarily cut itself off from US support. This should definitely make some headlines right? right??!?
anyhow....
I'm now taking bets 500:1 ...anyone wan't to go for a couple hundred that nobody says boo about it?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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Alex Jones will cover it extensively on Sunday.
Pay up.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Oh shit, you're probably right. I don't carry cash anymore .. do you take gold coin?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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the statement says it's only allowed in response to attacks (retalliation). it doesn't say they can just shoot rockets at palestinians at any time (terrorism / act of aggression).
So this is just one of those, "Man it sucks to be a mother or child living nextdoor to a freedom fighter\rebel\terrorist (whatever the hell you want to label a Palestinian who is fighting back against Israeli occupation)" Moments?
Sounds like a good way to perpetuate a war if nothing else.
Someone fires at you, you fire back and kill 10 civilians.
The sons of 10 dead civilians grow up to be militant Palestinian hardliners who wish only for the destruction of Israel in response to what they view as the shameful and unlawful murder of their family members.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Then what is bulldozing someones home evicting them by force (often death if they protest) and then living on their land qualify as exactly?
I bulldoze your home one day, kill one of your family members because they got too mouthy at me, if you come back or protest about it....I can kill you....and really now....if you get mad at me and fight back....hey you're a terrorist buddy...now I'm going to kill you because you're a terrorist, and guess what? It's legal! ... too bad for you eh? Go enjoy living in a field under a tarp somewhere with nothing... haha
who is retaliating?...who is attacking? who is occupying?.... hmm decisions decisions....decisions we make...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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"how?"
"well, this is a house, that's country. this is war, it's just so different!"
Sadly, people don't seem to ever really understand the situation. I don't know how most people these days can be so blind to even read through the news. They read about 120 palestinians being killed, then about 8 israeli rabbis being killed and all they remember is "well, theyre trying to get the terrorists, i mean did you see that 1 guy who shot 8 israeli rabbis?"
maybe israel should just let people bomb them then and not offend anyone then. I'd HOPE that if they retaliated immediately, w/o warning the civilians, they'd go after the people who shot the rockets rather than the civilians. But if the people fire rockets from the middle of a civilian area and that's where a stockpile is; you go after the source. And yes, it sucks and it's horrendous that you may involve civilians in an attack...that goes for both sides.
both sides are retaliating both sides are attacking BOTH sides need to accept responsiblity and work through this situation, which will not get better...I've got a couple thousand years of history to back me up. There will always be terrible problems over there; i don't get why every president of the US thinks they'll be the one to make the people over there get along and forget thousands of years of conflict and ideological differences. not gonna happen. That doesn't mean don't try, but the reality is the only way to have this bombing stop is to move one of the 2 people groups to Greenland and never let them leave.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7282948.stm
scroll down and see for yourself on that side bar.
ugh, I hate it when people bring things like the Crusades into this conflict. They aren't completely related, except for the fact that it was a war to take the land. Over the last 60 years, it's been a much different scenario.
Hmmm I wonder who that group should be.
I guess you missed my real life analogy altogether. Zionist Israelis think they have exclusive rights to everything, and are taking over the entire territory by lethal force in the most disgusting ways imaginable. The people that react are "terrorists" it's laughable...
see:
http://www.friendsofpalestine.org.au/images/Palestine%20Map%20Big.jpg
Honestly I just don't understand how people are so confused over what is going on here. It's pretty obvious...
This is just a primer documentary for the basic level of understanding.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2451908450811690589&q=occupation+101&total=412&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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44 to be exact. That number pails in insignificance.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
It says right here that the guy is an extremist. That doesn't mean the country will take him seriously. Most extremists, no matter what religion, or whatever, are crazy. Don't generalize all of Israel because of this one Rabbi who doesn't represent everyone and the whole country.
Citing extremists really lessens your credibilty. I am sure anyone can find an extremist who renders rulings on just about any controversial topic.
If a KKK leader ordered the killing of minorities, would you consider him a spokesperson for the entire white race in America?
Only when if it was convenient and agreeable to their "cause".
And I actually wondered this myself, this "religious extremist", is he a policy maker? Does he speak for the country or just for his own little group.
So if they'd "only" killed 8 Gazans, would it make it okay? 8 on one side with a retaliation of 200 to the other side one day, and those same numbers can (and do) flip the next day. OR the Gazans are only capable of doing enough damage to kill 8, but the Israeli's are much more militarily capable. Thats like feeling bad for a little scrawny guy who starts a fight with a huge brute and then thinks its unfair that the big guy kicked his ass. Its semantics really. Both sides of this little affair are fucked up people. One just has bigger toys.
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I don't think the OP concerns himself with getting any background on who he quotes....as long as it is inflamatory, that is good enough for him!
if the cops were chasing a serial killer and chased him into the mall then opened fire killing a lot of ppl who just happened to be at the mall, would you say they did the right thing?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
apples and oranges. Yer reachin
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orrrrrrr.....maybe israel could stop stealing land that isn't theirs (and let's be honest, that is exactly what they have been doing for decades) the un has told them to stop, they said it's illegal, that's why it's called the occupied territories.
maybe they should stop bulldozing down homes of palestinians to build illegal settlements, then treat the palestinians like shit and put up roadblocks and checkpoints where ppl can't get to work, their kids to the doctor,,,there is also a high level of malnutrition in palestinian children b/c of these roadblocks.
if you keep taking the poor kids lunch money (let alone his house and dignity) everyday don't be surprised when he punches you in the fucking face
true they both need to take responsability, but israel has far more power. they target civillians all the time, like when they blow up power sources to hospitals, schools, houses....oh, and stealing their land by force
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Oh so wait a sec....what I just said about the whole apartheid bulldozing homes, and forcefully stealing land isn't happening?
Ohhhhhh.....
:rolleyes:
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it's not an either / or issue. It's an AND issue PERIOD. BOTH sides are doing wrong things; there's no way around it and until BOTH sides stop retaliating and BOTH sides quit playing the victim card, this will continue. Trying to justify eithers side "wrong" as more or less wrong is exactly what got people into this. It will never end.
i bet if the serial killer was running from the cops and he ran into a group of people in the mall, the people would out the serial killer or subdue him for the cops. This isn't happening.
touche.
i really like the above post that pointed out that its not an either/ or thing, its an AND thing. Best way to put it, IMO
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Dude they already are doing this shit for decades now! The thing is ,,,,it is ACTUALLY HAPPENING for a long time now...
This is the mentality... it's a barometer of the reality over there. It is not an extremist viewpoint in Israel by any means if you look at the status quo of those controlling the daily reality. The whole country is run by f-ing extremists.
yeesh... you're living on this planet right?
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Obama.
Clinton.
McCain.
Nader/Gonazalez.
Which one supports the deep, broad Israeli/Palestinian non-violent peace movement?
Nader/Gonzalez.
Which would reverse U.S. policy in the Middle East?
GazaNader/Gonzalez.
Which one dares speak out about the world's largest prison - Gaza - with 1.5 million inmates, many of them starving, sick and penniless?
Nader/Gonzalez.
If you want to ensure robust debate about non-violent, peaceful solutions to the Middle East conflict this election year, then support Nader/Gonzalez.
Show your support for peace in the Middle East.
The palestinian people are poor, oppressed, in a continuous police state and have to deal with checkpoints and fences. Israel could end this conflict at any time, a simple command for the army to stand down would do it.
Israel is a Democracy. Not a theocracy. "Rabbi's" whoever they may be dont make or execute military policy in Israel. Their government does and they would never intentionally target civillians. What should they do when people with automatic weapons and suicide bombs walk into their civillian centers and blow themselves up? Maybe it would be easier for you if they just all walked back into the gas chambers. Keep your Islamic propaganda to yourself.
Know much about Israel do you?
edit: oh wait I just read the part about "they would never intentionally target civillians" and realized you don't know much about the situation at all...one could say nothing really...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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