Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says

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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    My big issue with global warming is people bitch, but don't do anything that would stop it. Biggest thing you can do to stop it is get rid of your car and ride a bike or walk like people do in most other countries.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    know1 wrote:
    Kind of like their prediction about the 2006 hurricane season, huh?

    Wasn't that prediction accurate as well?
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Some perspective. The CO2 emissions for all the worlds volcanoes combined equals less than 1% of what man produces anually.

    those measly volcanoes...pffft...
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Some perspective. The CO2 emissions for all the worlds volcanoes combined equals less than 1% of what man produces anually.

    those measly volcanoes...pffft...

    Water Vapor contributes the most I hear.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Right...and we are all walking, breathing bags of water :)
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Wasn't that prediction accurate as well?
    No. The 2006 hurricane season was very quiet, saving numerous lives and billions of dollars.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Right...and we are all walking, breathing bags of water :)

    I'm seriously dude. Water Vapor "accounts for most of the Earth's natural greenhouse effect".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_vapor#Water_vapor_in_Earth.27s_atmosphere
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Maybe that's it!

    Ok, everyone stop boiling water, you have to give up the pasta and stuff, it's killing the planet. I'm seriously!
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  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    know1 wrote:
    Kind of like their prediction about the 2006 hurricane season, huh?

    Whose prediction?
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    It's more about ever growing population numbers using the sources of energy that are readily available. Each country's technology level v.s. population plays into the equation massively as well. Unless you are saying evil corporations are controlling all new discoveries in science with regards to energy production.

    I was just mocking people with my comment.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    I was just mocking people with my comment.

    I hear ya.

    Whatever you do...just be careful Ahnimus is being seriously.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    SundaySilence wrote:
    Whose prediction?

    Uh, just about every chicken little climatologist in 2005 said that 2006 was going to be as bad or worse - that climate change created the hurricanes, and it was the start of things to come.

    http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/061201_ap_hurricane_flop.html
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I hear ya.

    Whatever you do...just be careful Ahnimus is being seriously.

    Yea man, I AM seriously.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jeffbr wrote:
    Uh, just about every chicken little climatologist in 2005 said that 2006 was going to be as bad or worse - that climate change created the hurricanes, and it was the start of things to come.

    http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/061201_ap_hurricane_flop.html


    Just because every prediction doesn't pan out doesn't mean the whole theory is bunk. No one can know everything and there are a lot of other factors that come into play with this.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Just because every prediction doesn't pan out doesn't mean the whole theory is bunk. No one can know everything and there are a lot of other factors that come into play with this.

    Well, El Nino/La nina seems to have a LOT more to do with storm/temperature/hurricane predictability than climate change evangelists give credit for. We'll see hurricanes this summer. The chicken littles will say "See - global warming/climate change is at it again!" The rest of us will shrug and know that a La Nina trend can easily account for it.

    I don't deny climate change occurs. But we've had cycles long before climatologists decided to give their particular sect of voodoo a name.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Yea man, I AM seriously.

    Seriously? lol :D
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jeffbr wrote:
    Well, El Nino/La nina


    I prefer La Nina, it sounds much sexier...
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jeffbr wrote:
    Well, El Nino/La nina seems to have a LOT more to do with storm/temperature/hurricane predictability than climate change evangelists give credit for. We'll see hurricanes this summer. The chicken littles will say "See - global warming/climate change is at it again!" The rest of us will shrug and know that a La Nina trend can easily account for it.

    I don't deny climate change occurs. But we've had cycles long before climatologists decided to give their particular sect of voodoo a name.

    'Evangelists'....LOL! So that's the new catch phrase. Just be cause La Nina happens naturally doesn't mean that our reckless actions can't contribute to making it much more deadly.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Seriously? lol :D

    Yea, I stole it from Cartman on Southpark
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Sweet...

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