Canadians...boycott all Petro Canada Gas stations from now on

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  • sourdough wrote:
    Really??? Flying to the moon? Its that hard? Is the concept of getting out of your car that foreign and unachievable?

    The likelihood...yes...
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  • sourdough wrote:
    If that is what you want, than that is your choice but be prepared to live with the consequences including high gas prices. It just seems like you want the convenience and benefits of living away from the city and use your car but without any of the drawbacks. Sprawling communities cost tax payers far more money because they are inefficient and low density areas. This is precisely why it is difficult to provide good transit to them. They are economically bad decisions and environmental disasters.

    hey man it's all we got right now short of embracing the stone age... I did say I refuse to live in a box and be disconnected with the outdoors.

    If that's your thing well...viva la condo...and some freak upstairs walking on your head all the time.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    sourdough wrote:
    If that is what you want, than that is your choice but be prepared to live with the consequences including high gas prices. It just seems like you want the convenience and benefits of living away from the city and use your car but without any of the drawbacks. Sprawling communities cost tax payers far more money because they are inefficient and low density areas. This is precisely why it is difficult to provide good transit to them. They are economically bad decisions and environmental disasters.

    Thank you.. well said.
    We all have choices to make, if all you want to do is bitch about gas prices and then continue to drive around in your car without changing anything, then its your choice. But if I'm going to complain about gas prices, then I think I might do something more concrete and effective then just changing who I buy my gas from.
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  • chromiam wrote:
    Thank you.. well said.
    We all have choices to make, if all you want to do is bitch about gas prices and then continue to drive around in your car without changing anything, then its your choice. But if I'm going to complain about gas prices, then I think I might do something more concrete and effective then just changing who I buy my gas from.

    What do you suggest then?
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    What do you suggest then?

    carpooling, running errands at the same time (not over days), using fuel efficient cars or alternative fuel cars, public transportation, transportation which isn't powered by gasoline or uses less gas (bikes, mopeds, motorcycles), maintaining your car properly, and I'm sure there a plethora of other things.
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  • chromiam wrote:
    carpooling, running errands at the same time (not over days), using fuel efficient cars or alternative fuel cars, public transportation, transportation which isn't powered by gasoline or uses less gas (bikes, mopeds, motorcycles), maintaining your car properly, and I'm sure there a plethora of other things.

    some of those are obviously just being smarter and pre-planning, but carpooling, 2 wheeling it, and public trans are pretty much out without drastic lifestyle changes. Most would have to be literally starving from gas prices first.

    Practicality is the reality.

    Alternative fuels is the way to go though. I'm very surprised more natural gas cars are not hitting the market.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    some of those are obviously just being smarter and pre-planning, but carpooling, 2 wheeling it, and public trans are pretty much out without drastic lifestyle changes. Most would have to be literally starving from gas prices first.

    Practicality is the reality.

    Alternative fuels is the way to go though. I'm very surprised more natural gas cars are not hitting the market.

    what kind of car do you drive ... you could probably make up that difference in the price of gas on the vehicle you drive alone
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    some of those are obviously just being smarter and pre-planning, but carpooling, 2 wheeling it, and public trans are pretty much out without drastic lifestyle changes. Most would have to be literally starving from gas prices first.

    Practicality is the reality.

    Alternative fuels is the way to go though. I'm very surprised more natural gas cars are not hitting the market.

    Lowering fuel consumption isn't rocket science. It's about making smarter decisions and planning. As for carpooling being a drastic lifestyle change, how hard is it to go "hmmm John down the street works in town too, we could spilt the gas cost and go to work together" ???
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  • MCGMCG Posts: 780
    I know I would consider taking the bus where I live IF IT WERE EFFICIENT!!! The bus routes in my city are so poorly designed it takes me over an hour to go somewhere it takes me less than 15mins to go in my car. I can either burn time or gas, I choose gas. I walk and carpool when I can but for work and school I'm completely dependant on my car and costly gasoline for transportation.
    Which came first,
    the bad idea or me befallen by it?
  • I stationary bike 8 miles a day and can run 5 miles in 35-40 min no problem... I would love to be able to bike to work. I used to do exactly that when I lived midtown in an apartment with mice and roaches. That was a 45 min bike ride daily each way.

    I refuse to live in a box or be crammed into a tiny house and pay through the nose though. I've lived in so many shitty, noisy, smelly downtown apartments...never again. they all have fleas... condo's are just slightly better...
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  • DerrickDerrick Posts: 475
    Toronto is one of the few Canadian cities with adequate public transportation, and yet most Torontonians I know complain about it.
  • Derrick wrote:
    Toronto is one of the few Canadian cities with adequate public transportation, and yet most Torontonians I know complain about it.

    Montreal has the best subway system... rubber tires...smooth..quiet..

    Toronto subways are noisy, rough and packed solid during rush hour. sometimes the wheels squeal so loudly for minutes at a time...they rock back and forth shaking you silly...the lights would flicker on aqnd off, and they would stop a lot mid-stop and wait for minutes at a time. almost post war experience... totally adequate.. but not that great. Go transit and LRT much newer and better.

    It's been at least 10 years since I've used though...
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    Derrick wrote:
    Toronto is one of the few Canadian cities with adequate public transportation, and yet most Torontonians I know complain about it.

    it is the least funded public transportation system in north america ... i've been around the world and seen some kick ass transportation systems ... toronto (my home) is not bad but it still is geared towards bringing people into the downtown ... it lacks versatility ...

    anyways - i live downtown and bike everywhere ...
  • sourdoughsourdough Posts: 579
    hey man it's all we got right now short of embracing the stone age... I did say I refuse to live in a box and be disconnected with the outdoors.

    If that's your thing well...viva la condo...and some freak upstairs walking on your head all the time.
    OK so here is the deal. I won't start threads complaining about the freaks upstairs walking on my head because I choose to live in an apartment in the city, and you don't start threads complaining about the gas prices you pay because you choose to live in a house away from the city. Deal?
  • sourdoughsourdough Posts: 579
    some of those are obviously just being smarter and pre-planning, but carpooling, 2 wheeling it, and public trans are pretty much out without drastic lifestyle changes. Most would have to be literally starving from gas prices first.

    Practicality is the reality.

    Alternative fuels is the way to go though. I'm very surprised more natural gas cars are not hitting the market.
    This is the point. Make lifestyle changes if your current lifestyle is bothering you. Right now your current lifestyle is pissing you off cause it costs you lots of gas money. So, either you put up with the gas prices or you can make a change. No one is forcing you into your car and paying those gas prices. Prices are not going to be cheap anymore like they were 5+ years ago. That is a reality you have to face so deal with it.
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