Canadians...boycott all Petro Canada Gas stations from now on

RolandTD20Kdrummer

This could actually work. Please copy and forward it to your email contacts.

Petro Canada is Canada's largest gasoline retailer.

Honestly....what the hell do we have to lose by doing this?

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Read this if you aren't interested in paying $1.30 - $1.50 / liter this summer

This idea may actually work. Give it some thought.

"War On Gas"

This was originally sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It
came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. It's
worthy of our consideration.

Join the resistance! I hear we are going to hit close to $1.50 a
liter by summer and it might possibly go higher! Want gasoline prices to
come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip
Hollsworth offered this good idea.

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain
day" campaign that was going around earlier! The oil companies just
laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt"
ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us
than it was a problem for them.

Here's the idea:

Starting June 1 of 2007 DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the
biggest Company in Canada . Petro Canada ! If they are not selling any
gas, they will be very quickly inclined to reduce their prices. If they
reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. Think
about this. Petro Canada has 1500 retail locations and the entire
country consumes 68 million gallons a day. Yes per day. And Petro Canada
is Canada 's largest gasoline retailer, then doesn't it make sense that
the consumer can bring this giant to its knees and force them to lower
their prices.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of
Petro Canada gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now, don't wimp out
at this point.... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to
reach millions of people.

I am sending this note to 30 people. If each of us sends it to
at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at least
ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches
the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
consumers. If those three million pass it on to ten friends each, then
30 million people!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.

How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail
out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 30 MILLION people
could conceivably see this within the next 8 days!!!

Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to
you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from Petro
Canada UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO A REASONABLE PRICE AND KEEP THEM
DOWN.

sourdough

How about just not using as much gas. Lower the demand on oil by using alternative transportation methods.

Quite frankly, I'm kinda hoping gas prices continue to rise and force people out of their cars.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

sourdough wrote:

How about just not using as much gas. Lower the demand on oil by using alternative transportation methods.

Quite frankly, I'm kinda hoping gas prices continue to rise and force people out of their cars.

Obviously that's the best case scenario... however completely improbable for a lot of people driving back and forth to work. Suburban sprawl is quite widespread.

I think this plan could definitely work. Using less gas that is also cheaper is a definite bonus, and works just fine with the boycott principle.

What you're saying is kinda like saying why not just breathe less so there's more oxygen for the planet.

polaris

sourdough wrote:

How about just not using as much gas. Lower the demand on oil by using alternative transportation methods.

Quite frankly, I'm kinda hoping gas prices continue to rise and force people out of their cars.

absolutely!! ...

unless there is another way of getting people to use less oil - this seems to be the only language folks can understand ...

sourdough

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Obviously that's the best case scenario... however completely improbable for a lot of people driving back and forth to work. Suburban sprawl is quite widespread.

I think this plan could definitely work. Using less gas that is also cheaper is a definite bonus, and works just fine with the boycott principle.

What you're saying is kinda like saying why not just breathe less so there's more oxygen for the planet.

I understand that there are people who are dependant on their cars but many people (myself included) that have made changes not only because of the price of driving but because of the larger related environmental problems. Suburban sprawl is quite widespread, but it does not mean we should accept it or condone it. If gas is too expensive for people to live in these sprawling communities, people have the choice to move. Just as SUV drivers have the choice to drive smaller cars.
The vast majority of people do have choices. You can have the large house in a sprawling community with cheap property, but prepare to deal with the high gas prices and long commutes. You can't have it both ways.

korby

HUSKY or MOHAWK

Bwalker545

sourdough wrote:

If gas is too expensive for people to live in these sprawling communities, people have the choice to move. Just as SUV drivers have the choice to drive smaller cars.... You can have the large house in a sprawling community with cheap property, but prepare to deal with the high gas prices and long commutes. You can't have it both ways.

What about the people that live in the small apartments spread across the urban sprawl barely able to squek out a living working at a job they have to communte to across town to get to, in the areas where the rich people still need min. wage laborers to run their coffe shops, gas stations ect. but no one living in the area will work the jobs? Take the bus? what if you miss it one day, your a min. wage laborer you might lose your job cause your easily replaced...Its not as simple as "Just stop driving"

RolandTD20Kdrummer

sourdough wrote:

I understand that there are people who are dependant on their cars but many people (myself included) that have made changes not only because of the price of driving but because of the larger related environmental problems. Suburban sprawl is quite widespread, but it does not mean we should accept it or condone it. If gas is too expensive for people to live in these sprawling communities, people have the choice to move. Just as SUV drivers have the choice to drive smaller cars.
The vast majority of people do have choices. You can have the large house in a sprawling community with cheap property, but prepare to deal with the high gas prices and long commutes. You can't have it both ways.

Some cannot afford to live in the downtown core either due to insane property taxes and ridiculous house prices. What do you recommend those people do?

Also every city would have to be radically redesigned to consist of endless rows of soaring high rises as far as the eye can see... no more backyard bar-b-que's (or backyards or front yards for that matter) everyone lives in a box... Sounds like a seriously shit reality to me...

bharQ

hoooray sheep people... Let’s examine….


Let’s say nobody buys gas at Petro Canada anymore. What happens? Does gas consumption drop? Nope. Consumer gas purchases remain exactly the same, because everyone’s still buying the same amount of gas, just from a different gas station. So demand has remained constant.

But what happens to supply? Well, at those other gas stations, supply is going to get tighter, isn’t it? Suddenly you’ve got all these ex-Petro Canada customers flooding your Shell, and stealing all your cheap gas at $1.14. Bastards! There are two things that could happen here.

The other stations RAISE prices. Since their supply is now constrained, as people are buying more from them, it’s like a long weekend ALL THE TIME.
The other petro companies need to increase supply to keep prices constant. But how can they do that? They can’t just pump more out of the ground, they’re already maxed out. So where will they get it? Where will they find a ready supply of unused gas?

That’s right folks, they’ll buy it…. From Petro Canada.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

bharQ wrote:

hoooray sheep people... Let’s examine….


Let’s say nobody buys gas at Petro Canada anymore. What happens? Does gas consumption drop? Nope. Consumer gas purchases remain exactly the same, because everyone’s still buying the same amount of gas, just from a different gas station. So demand has remained constant.

But what happens to supply? Well, at those other gas stations, supply is going to get tighter, isn’t it? Suddenly you’ve got all these ex-Petro Canada customers flooding your Shell, and stealing all your cheap gas at $1.14. Bastards! There are two things that could happen here.

The other stations RAISE prices. Since their supply is now constrained, as people are buying more from them, it’s like a long weekend ALL THE TIME.
The other petro companies need to increase supply to keep prices constant. But how can they do that? They can’t just pump more out of the ground, they’re already maxed out. So where will they get it? Where will they find a ready supply of unused gas?

That’s right folks, they’ll buy it…. From Petro Canada.

Who will buy it from Petro Canada again?.....and at full retail price?.... uhm yeah...I don't think so dude...

They are losing money either way. When you don't get business...you lose money it's that simple...

RolandTD20Kdrummer

sourdough wrote:

How about just not using as much gas. Lower the demand on oil by using alternative transportation methods.

Quite frankly, I'm kinda hoping gas prices continue to rise and force people out of their cars.

Also be extremely careful what you wish for.

As long as gas prices remain high and long-term...expensive gas means it's expensive to ship products by truck, and expensive to fly stuff around via air, and expensive to operate any combustion type machinery.

All those increased costs means the cost of virtually any product you can think of will go up if gas prices stay high.

So....you're going to feel it smack dab your pocketbook it no matter how many bicycles trips, long thoughtful walks, or bus rides you decide to take to work.

edgarcamp

This is a hoax, it has been going around with Exxon Mobile in place of Petro Canada. It is totally useless. It shows up in inboxs everywhere, everytime gas prices go up.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

edgarcamp wrote:

This is a hoax, it has been going around with Exxon Mobile in place of Petro Canada. It is totally useless. It shows up in inboxs everywhere, everytime gas prices go up.

how do you know? Why don't you try it, pass the information forward, and find out?

how can you possibly know if it works? Did you read some studies on it from Petro Canada?

You must be one of those there's zero strength in numbers people...

....or perhaps you are just being pessimistic and somewhat of a defeatist.

polaris

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Also be extremely careful what you wish for.

As long as gas prices remain high and long-term...expensive gas means it's expensive to ship products by truck, and expensive to fly stuff around via air, and expensive to operate any combustion type machinery.

All those increased costs means the cost of virtually any product you can think of will go up if gas prices stay high.

So....you're going to feel it smack dab your pocketbook it no matter how many bicycles trips, long thoughtful walks, or bus rides you decide to take to work.

we should be paying the TRUE cost of gas ... not this overly subsidized amounts ... we should be paying for the environmental impacts of gas use as well ...

for the simple fact that someone could argue driving is the most affordable means of transportation just goes to show how brainwashed we are that we NEED to drive everywhere ...

sourdough

Magus wrote:

What about the people that live in the small apartments spread across the urban sprawl barely able to squek out a living working at a job they have to communte to across town to get to, in the areas where the rich people still need min. wage laborers to run their coffe shops, gas stations ect. but no one living in the area will work the jobs? Take the bus? what if you miss it one day, your a min. wage laborer you might lose your job cause your easily replaced...Its not as simple as "Just stop driving"

My point is that people DO have choices. There are minimum wage jobs everywhere. In fact, there are more lower wage jobs in the cities. Furthermore, think of the savings for the poor minimum wage worker if they got out of their car .

Are the majority of car users poor people living in sprawling suburbs? Really? Sprawling suburbs rarelyhave apartments. People move out to them to get their hands on cheap houses so they don't have to live in apartments in the city.

thankyougrandma

boycott gas

sourdough

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Some cannot afford to live in the downtown core either due to insane property taxes and ridiculous house prices. What do you recommend those people do?

Also every city would have to be radically redesigned to consist of endless rows of soaring high rises as far as the eye can see... no more backyard bar-b-que's (or backyards or front yards for that matter) everyone lives in a box... Sounds like a seriously shit reality to me...

You're right. I can't afford to live in the downtown core, but there are busses that go in and out of it as well. Many people choose to live in sprawling communities because they choose to live in a bigger house at a cheaper price but the dichotomy of downtown core to sprawling community does not exist. In most cities there is choice.

Many, many people manage to live in the city or in close proximity to it without being wealthy. My wife and I live half a block from a subway station in one of the most expensive cities in North America and we're surrounded by many other not so rich people. Its possible. there are choices.

The reality is that land is a finite in quantity and our populations are cities are expanding in population rapidly. Cities will change and yes, some luxuries that we had in the past may not be feasable anymore. However, the legacy of sprawl, is more cars, more pollution, more oil demand, more time commuting and less time with family. That also does not sound like a good alternative.

chromiam

sourdough wrote:

How about just not using as much gas. Lower the demand on oil by using alternative transportation methods.

Quite frankly, I'm kinda hoping gas prices continue to rise and force people out of their cars.

There you go... use public transportation or other means that use less or no gasoline (carpooling, reducing frequency of trips, etc.). That's the only way to lower demand.

This plan just moves the demand from one oil company to another. And then the larger company can just sell its oil to the other companies.

Pacomc79

The only way to effectively lower gas prices is to stop buying gas and not go back to buying the same amount you were purchasing before the lowering of the price.

It's like dieting. If you want to keep the weight off you have to stop eating.

Reducing consumption is one of the better things we all can do.


we use too much gas period. We need to combine trips, use public transit and walk/ bike more.

Sludge Factory

We should just create hydrogen highways like one of the countries in Europe plans on doing. I think it was Norway but I'm not sure....just make sure not to crash...

korby

well. i gtg fill up my old SUV and drive to the hardware store to get a can of AEROSOL spray paint.