i don't mean to be offensive but would an educated person believe that a man sitting in california knew where every government official was at any particular time or what that person was thinking? i know a lot of people that think F9/11 was a true story. not one has more than a high school education.
I never saw F911 as a "story". I don't think most people did. It was a lot of facts presented in a such a manner as to keep Americans from lynching the President.
i'm sure most are. It makes sense though; they generally disagree with his politics. why is it curious?
I see it (predominantly) one of two ways (for the MM haters).
A) They like how everything is going right now (US gov't wise) despite the corruption (or they are somehow still blind to it?!) and feel that as long as they are on top in the world screw everyone else (i.e. how dare Moore speak unpatriotic words about the country).
The other slant is.... they hate how MM looks, how he talks, how he dresses....everything about him actually, which is a predominantly racist mindset.
I just can't see the flat out justification of this MM loathing phenomenon and work up very much respect for those who harbor it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
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I see it (predominantly) one of two ways (for the MM haters).
A) They like how everything is going right now (US gov't wise) despite the corruption (or they are somehow still blind to it?!) and feel that as long as they are on top in the world screw everyone else (i.e. how dare Moore speak unpatriotic words about the country).
The other slant is.... they hate how MM looks, how he talks, how he dresses....everything about him actually, which is a predominantly racist mindset.
I just can't see the flat out justification of this MM loathing phenomenon and work up very much respect for those who harbor it.
i would say replace the 2nd slant with this one...they don't like how he goes about presenting his view. He could make some decent points in his films, but he resorts to distorting facts, twisting things, making outlandish statements...which have nothing to do with his physical appearance.
I think people say negative things about him b/c he's overweight and sloppy but that's not the reason for disliking him; it's easier to say those things when you don't agree with the person. playing the appearance card is too easy and too convenient a scapegoat rather than dealing with the issues, imo.
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i would say replace the 2nd slant with this one...they don't like how he goes about presenting his view. He could make some decent points in his films, but he resorts to distorting facts, twisting things, making outlandish statements...which have nothing to do with his physical appearance.
I think people say negative things about him b/c he's overweight and sloppy but that's not the reason for disliking him; it's easier to say those things when you don't agree with the person. playing the appearance card is too easy and too convenient a scapegoat rather than dealing with the issues, imo.
I think that it's a combination of your's and Roland's post... We are all victims of our own biases.... Moore for me can be annoying, but for the most part I agree with his line of thinking, so I just kind of shrug off his annoying traits and his distortions/outlandish statements and go on with my life.
Same thing happens the other way around... if someone generally agrees with Rush or *shudders* Hannity, you let their annoying personalities/approaches slide, because you tend to agree with the basis of their statements. If you don't agree with them at all, their personalities and approaches are the last straw and make you violently angry
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I think that it's a combination of your's and Roland's post... We are all victims of our own biases.... Moore for me can be annoying, but for the most part I agree with his line of thinking, so I just kind of shrug off his annoying traits and his distortions/outlandish statements and go on with my life.
Same thing happens the other way around... if someone generally agrees with Rush or *shudders* Hannity, you let their annoying personalities/approaches slide, because you tend to agree with the basis of their statements. If you don't agree with them at all, their personalities and approaches are the last straw and make you violently angry
OH JUST SHUT UP!!!!!!
I think you hit the nail on the head. Even the people we support have quirks that annoy us, but we'll tolerate them much better b/c they are on our "side".
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Not sure why people have a problem with Mike Moore. His movies stand up for the little guy and show how big business runs the day, and he gets shit for it. ?????
I can see big business not liking the guy, but come on. Hes on your side people.
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i would say replace the 2nd slant with this one...they don't like how he goes about presenting his view. He could make some decent points in his films, but he resorts to distorting facts, twisting things, making outlandish statements...which have nothing to do with his physical appearance.
I think people say negative things about him b/c he's overweight and sloppy but that's not the reason for disliking him; it's easier to say those things when you don't agree with the person. playing the appearance card is too easy and too convenient a scapegoat rather than dealing with the issues, imo.
i don't see it that way. let's face it; nobody is against healthcare. the problem i have is when someone presents a problem; then treats it like we can wave a magic wand and solve the problem. the majority of the public is uninformed and doesn't understand all the variables involved.
i recall discussing socialized medicine back in the 70's. it's not a new idea. several administrations have tried to come up with a plan for socialized medicine and failed. my point being that it's not as easy as people tend to think.
I think that it's a combination of your's and Roland's post... We are all victims of our own biases.... Moore for me can be annoying, but for the most part I agree with his line of thinking, so I just kind of shrug off his annoying traits and his distortions/outlandish statements and go on with my life.
Same thing happens the other way around... if someone generally agrees with Rush or *shudders* Hannity, you let their annoying personalities/approaches slide, because you tend to agree with the basis of their statements. If you don't agree with them at all, their personalities and approaches are the last straw and make you violently angry
I don't agree with Bill O'reilly but I don't hate him or rant about him. If anything I think he is delusional and misguided at times... Disagreeing with him at times yes... but hating...nope.
Back to the hating and loathing MM thing...it's very telling... Something just not right here...and it's not Moore...
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I never saw F911 as a "story". I don't think most people did. It was a lot of facts presented in a such a manner as to keep Americans from lynching the President.
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I see it (predominantly) one of two ways (for the MM haters).
A) They like how everything is going right now (US gov't wise) despite the corruption (or they are somehow still blind to it?!) and feel that as long as they are on top in the world screw everyone else (i.e. how dare Moore speak unpatriotic words about the country).
I just can't see the flat out justification of this MM loathing phenomenon and work up very much respect for those who harbor it.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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i would say replace the 2nd slant with this one...they don't like how he goes about presenting his view. He could make some decent points in his films, but he resorts to distorting facts, twisting things, making outlandish statements...which have nothing to do with his physical appearance.
I think people say negative things about him b/c he's overweight and sloppy but that's not the reason for disliking him; it's easier to say those things when you don't agree with the person. playing the appearance card is too easy and too convenient a scapegoat rather than dealing with the issues, imo.
I think that it's a combination of your's and Roland's post... We are all victims of our own biases.... Moore for me can be annoying, but for the most part I agree with his line of thinking, so I just kind of shrug off his annoying traits and his distortions/outlandish statements and go on with my life.
Same thing happens the other way around... if someone generally agrees with Rush or *shudders* Hannity, you let their annoying personalities/approaches slide, because you tend to agree with the basis of their statements. If you don't agree with them at all, their personalities and approaches are the last straw and make you violently angry
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
OH JUST SHUT UP!!!!!!
I think you hit the nail on the head. Even the people we support have quirks that annoy us, but we'll tolerate them much better b/c they are on our "side".
I can see big business not liking the guy, but come on. Hes on your side people.
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I thought your country had a Prime Minister...
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
i don't see it that way. let's face it; nobody is against healthcare. the problem i have is when someone presents a problem; then treats it like we can wave a magic wand and solve the problem. the majority of the public is uninformed and doesn't understand all the variables involved.
i recall discussing socialized medicine back in the 70's. it's not a new idea. several administrations have tried to come up with a plan for socialized medicine and failed. my point being that it's not as easy as people tend to think.
You can have him.
I don't agree with Bill O'reilly but I don't hate him or rant about him. If anything I think he is delusional and misguided at times... Disagreeing with him at times yes... but hating...nope.
Back to the hating and loathing MM thing...it's very telling... Something just not right here...and it's not Moore...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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