Anti Michael Moore site gets unlikely donation

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited June 2007 in A Moving Train
When the founder of the Web’s most popular anti-Michael Moore Web site ran into financial trouble because of medical bills, a very unlikely guardian angel came to the rescue.

Jim Kenefick, owner of http://www.moorewatch.com blog's post where he pleads for money to keep his website MooreWatch.com alive because his wife's medical bills (Kenefick says she has a neurological disorder) have almost bankrupted him.

He is saved at the last minute when a mysterious donor sends a $12,000 check, enough to keep the site going and pay insurance premiums for a year...

Any guesses who the mysterious guardian angel was?? (hint: his initials are M.M.)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113385/site/newsweek/
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    good for MM for helping.

    and I think the quote from the website said it best-
    Thank you Michael Moore." Your gift took a huge burden off my shoulders. But I still don’t like your style."
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    good stuff
  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    $12,000 is the limit for the annual gift tax exclusion.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    I'm not sure if I should say..."wow, very cool"

    Or..."Wow, Michael Moore using someone else's illness to pimp himself...what a jackass"

    I'm leabing towards "cool"
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  • $12,000 is the limit for the annual gift tax exclusion.

    Seems appropriate...the guy hates him and rants about it daily after all...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    Seems appropriate...the guy hates him and rants about it daily after all...

    its the most he can receive from one individual without having to pay taxes on it.
  • its the most he can receive from one individual without having to pay taxes on it.

    Right, doh...slaps forehead... I knew that.

    I wonder if most, or all, of the Anti Moore folks are republicans and/or love Bush? I'm hunching this is the case in most circumstances.

    curious...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Right, doh...slaps forehead... I knew that.

    I wonder if most, or all, of the Anti Moore folks are republicans and/or love Bush? I'm hunching this is the case in most circumstances.

    curious...

    i'm sure most are. It makes sense though; they generally disagree with his politics. why is it curious?
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    chopitdown wrote:
    i'm sure most are. It makes sense though; they generally disagree with his politics. why is it curious?

    i cant stand MM, i think he is a nut job, but that doesnt mean im a republican/bush supporter by any means...i just cant stand how this guy loaths in his own batter of lard and glistens in the sun with pride
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    pjalive21 wrote:
    i cant stand MM, i think he is a nut job, but that doesnt mean im a republican/bush supporter by any means...i just cant stand how this guy loaths in his own batter of lard and glistens in the sun with pride

    agreed. YOu don't have to be a republican but by and large MOST anti-moore agenda people are repubs or at least conservative.
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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    chopitdown wrote:
    agreed. YOu don't have to be a republican but by and large MOST anti-moore agenda people are repubs or at least conservative.

    or educated.
  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    or educated.

    I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say that the average person that considers themself a big Michael Moore fan is more educated than the average loyal fan of any of the major conservative talking heads.

    No two ways about it, that was a cool thing Moore did. I just hope his new movie is as enlightening as it could be and that maybe, just maybe it will inspire the general public to push for reform.
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    I don't particularly like Michael Moore, but I say good for him. The reason I don't particularly like him is because I'm on his side. I'm not a bush fan, at all. I want all americans to have health care and I'm against the war. I believe in his message. But the way he presents his message isn't very effective, IMO. It's entertaining, but I'm not looking for entertainment when it comes to politics. I realize that most people are, but I'm not. Either way, he's rich and he's helping someone who's not and that will always be a good thing.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    or educated.

    that is a good point.
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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    gabers wrote:
    I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say that the average person that considers themself a big Michael Moore fan is more educated than the average loyal fan of any of the major conservative talking heads.

    No two ways about it, that was a cool thing Moore did. I just hope his new movie is as enlightening as it could be and that maybe, just maybe it will inspire the general public to push for reform.

    i don't mean to be offensive but would an educated person believe that a man sitting in california knew where every government official was at any particular time or what that person was thinking? i know a lot of people that think F9/11 was a true story. not one has more than a high school education.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    I don't particularly like Michael Moore, but I say good for him. The reason I don't particularly like him is because I'm on his side. I'm not a bush fan, at all. I want all americans to have health care and I'm against the war. I believe in his message. But the way he presents his message isn't very effective, IMO. It's entertaining, but I'm not looking for entertainment when it comes to politics. I realize that most people are, but I'm not. Either way, he's rich and he's helping someone who's not and that will always be a good thing.

    don't expect to see his film in the us. it contains contraban MADE IN CUBA. if the movie is allowed in the us we'll all be smoking cuban cigars because you can't change a law for one person.
    as far as healthcare; the us cannot have socialized medicine because of the immigration problem. not anything mm can do. healthcare is governed by social security. ie: medicare and medicaid. the extra money needed for policing; prosecution and jailing illegals as well as trying to protect our borders would give every american the best healthcare available.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    i don't mean to be offensive but would an educated person believe that a man sitting in california knew where every government official was at any particular time or what that person was thinking? i know a lot of people that think F9/11 was a true story. not one has more than a high school education.

    There is a big difference between being a Michael Moore fan and believing that F9/11 was a true story. You're not necessarily talking about the same people.

    Personally I'm pretty indifferent to Moore... I think that he has the right idea a lot of times, but his approach is a disaster and puts his the good points that he makes a lot less powerful because of all of the other crap that he manufactures.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    as far as healthcare; the us cannot have socialized medicine because of the immigration problem. not anything mm can do. healthcare is governed by social security. ie: medicare and medicaid. the extra money needed for policing; prosecution and jailing illegals as well as trying to protect our borders would give every american the best healthcare available.

    You can also say that the money spent on the war in iraq would give every american the best healthcare available as well. I think it's a cop out to blame the lack health care on illegal immigration or whatever.
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  • SpecificsSpecifics Posts: 417
    i don't mean to be offensive but would an educated person believe that a man sitting in california knew where every government official was at any particular time or what that person was thinking? i know a lot of people that think F9/11 was a true story. not one has more than a high school education.

    I debated with a person once who thinks F9/11 is a complete waste of time but who thinks Red Dawn is an instructional video on how to defend a country against invaders. This person believes on one hand that his government would never do this to its people but yet he wants to keep his gun in case he has to defend himself against his own military, and i even saw him trying to put people down for only having a high school education, which im guessing means he is a highly educated dude!! go figure man!

    Oh yeah, that was you. Laughable :)
  • Specifics wrote:
    I debated with a person once who thinks F9/11 is a complete waste of time but who thinks Red Dawn is an instructional video on how to defend a country against invaders. This person believes on one hand that his government would never do this to its people but yet he wants to keep his gun in case he has to defend himself against his own military, and i even saw him trying to put people down for only having a high school education, which im guessing means he is a highly educated dude!! go figure man!

    Oh yeah, that was you. Laughable :)

    LOL
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    don't expect to see his film in the us. it contains contraban MADE IN CUBA. if the movie is allowed in the us we'll all be smoking cuban cigars because you can't change a law for one person.
    as far as healthcare; the us cannot have socialized medicine because of the immigration problem. not anything mm can do. healthcare is governed by social security. ie: medicare and medicaid. the extra money needed for policing; prosecution and jailing illegals as well as trying to protect our borders would give every american the best healthcare available.
    Are you uninformed or just being facetious?

    In other words, I just saw a commercial for it last night. It's being released in the U.S. on June 29th. So break out the cigars.
  • bugbug Posts: 5
    Hi!
    I can say that i like his style, but you probably know more about him than i do! Anyway, his work is watched outside U.S., giving him a good rason to exist and keep doing what he does!
  • I can't see how people can hate him. I think it speak VOLUMES about their character. The guy is raising issues and provoking thought...

    If it's a personal thing well... small minds think and hate alike apparently
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I can't see how people can hate him. I think it speak VOLUMES about their character. The guy is raising issues and provoking thought...

    If it's a personal thing well... small minds think and hate alike apparently


    I can't see how people hate him (or really anyone that they don't know), but I can see how people can get annoyed and turned off by him.

    He does raise issues and provokes thought, but he tends to misleadingly arrange and rearrange statements and images into a convenient context to emphasis his points.

    I am/was against the Iraq war, but watching F9/11 frustrated me at how he took the easy way out by pulling at heartstrings. He made a lot of good connections in the first half of the movie and should have just left it at that... after watching the second half, it took a lot of the credibility/impact away for me.
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  • whitepantswhitepants Posts: 727
    No matter what you think about MM, it was very big of him to donate $12k to someone who hates him.

    And then the guy has the gall to ACCEPT the donation and Keep talking shit about MM on his blog.

    Only in America are hypocrites so ignorantly proud. And the people who support Moore Watch are too dumb to see the irony of it all.
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  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    whitepants wrote:
    No matter what you think about MM, it was very big of him to donate $12k to someone who hates him.

    And then the guy has the gall to ACCEPT the donation and Keep talking shit about MM on his blog.

    Only in America are hypocrites so ignorantly proud. And the people who support Moore Watch are too dumb to see the irony of it all.

    It's a severe statement. I think it's a fair fight. MM, upon releasing a film on the toughness of social security gives one of is enemies a large amount of money for medical procedures. I'm sure it saved this guy a lot of anguish and trouble, but you can't accuse him of feeling manipulated. MM just made some advertisement of his back. And you can't help but wonder if his movie hadn't been about social security would he have done that?
    I don't even know what moore watch is, and I actually like the MM films I saw, and I actually look up to MM for doing something like that, but still I understand the guy for his stance. And at least he does stand by his point.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    whitepants wrote:
    No matter what you think about MM, it was very big of him to donate $12k to someone who hates him.

    And then the guy has the gall to ACCEPT the donation and Keep talking shit about MM on his blog.

    Only in America are hypocrites so ignorantly proud. And the people who support Moore Watch are too dumb to see the irony of it all.
    If George Bush, a man I thoroughly despise, offered me $12,000 I'd take it and still talk shit about him. The only way I wouldn't accept the money would be if he demanded that I stop talking shit about him in exchange.

    From a strictly cynical, business perspective, this gift actually serves Michael Moore just as much as the guy who accepted it. Moore gets to look cool, charitable, and non-partisan - which will likely translate into box-office dollars after Sicko is released. The man gets the money and therefore gets to continue to speak against Moore - further providing "free" advertising for the film and future Moore projects. Plus, without a counter-point, no argument can claim to be a "strong" argument. Perhaps, just as scientists go through a "falsifiable" process - usually by other independent scientists - Moore wants the same for his claims.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    You can also say that the money spent on the war in iraq would give every american the best healthcare available as well. I think it's a cop out to blame the lack health care on illegal immigration or whatever.

    military money is just that. if it wasn't for the war the money would go towards building the military stronger. any money possibly diverted (if possible) would go to the over taxed governing body which would not direct it to socialized medicine.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    military money is just that. if it wasn't for the war the money would go towards building the military stronger. any money possibly diverted (if possible) would go to the over taxed governing body which would not direct it to socialized medicine.
    Congress votes on how we spend money every couple of months. That's what the whole "funding the troops" argument was about recently. And who is this "over taxed governing body" you're talking about? The American Population? I believe, again, that it's up to Congress to decide on how to spend our tax dollars. If they vote for universal healthcare, we get universal healthcare - if they vote for a tax break, we get a tax break. If they vote in a way the American Population doesn't like, they get voted out.

    And the American Population is warming up to the idea of universal healthcare - and cooling on the idea of tax breaks.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    military money is just that. if it wasn't for the war the money would go towards building the military stronger. any money possibly diverted (if possible) would go to the over taxed governing body which would not direct it to socialized medicine.

    Then by that logic, your argument below (which my response was to) doesn't make sense. If military money is just that, then border security money is just that too and wouldn't go to healthcare.

    Your "immigration problem" is nothing more than a red herring in the health care argument.
    as far as healthcare; the us cannot have socialized medicine because of the immigration problem. not anything mm can do. healthcare is governed by social security. ie: medicare and medicaid. the extra money needed for policing; prosecution and jailing illegals as well as trying to protect our borders would give every american the best healthcare available.
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
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