Obama...flip floppin like the best of them...

blackredyellow

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

It's a very short video of Obama talking out his ass about proving the case for military action on Iran, while at the same time thoroughly contradicting his original position and ideologies on the matter.

flip

flop...

When again in that clip (or that speech for that matter) did he bring up, or endorse military action against Iran?

fuck

blackredyellow wrote:

Well, when we are talking about a country with primitive nuclear capabilities and tremendously short range missiles, yes, the US is impervious to those nuclear weapons.

what about the troops in Iraq? Afghanistan?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

blackredyellow wrote:

When again in that clip (or that speech for that matter) did he bring up, or endorse military action against Iran?

I knew that would be the next question from someone.

hmm terrorists with nuclear weapons...lets ponder the scenario and decide what to do.

Given the ongoing attack Iran rhetoric in the media, and the undeniably clear intentions on both sides, what do you think he's talking about with scare mongering talk like this?

Inciting public opinion and impression to plant flowers in Iran?

hmm...I'm guessing no...

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Hiroshima and Nagasaki...boom...just dropped em from airplanes...

I think Iran owns at least one airplane at last check.

It's all so scary Barak....and it's even illegal you say?

Oh my goodness...we must do something Barak...

save us from the terrorists..

lead us...

do whatever is necessary...

Iran is bad.

inmytree

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Hiroshima and Nagasaki...boom...just dropped em from airplanes...

I think Iran owns at least one airplane at last check.

It's all so scary Barak....and it's even illegal you say?

Oh my goodness...we must do something Barak...

save us from the terrorists..

lead us...

do whatever is necessary...

Iran is bad.

you should create a youtube clip...

RolandTD20Kdrummer

inmytree wrote:

you should create a youtube clip...

You mean assemble mainstream television footage to help those with limited memories?

It's seems to be the order of the day

RolandTD20Kdrummer

and the verdict is in

180 degree flip flop...

I rest my case.

angryyoungman

mca47 wrote:

The same could be said about you. You really are reaching for something that's not there Roland.
I mean, it's clear that you dislike the guy so much that your own distaste for him is really clouding what is otherwise completely obvious.
And to me (and I think most people) that is a bit f-ing scary.

roland reaching for something that isn't there???? NO!!!! get out of here!!! you're so silly, you probably believe that planes brought down the wtc!!

angryyoungman

speaking of flip flopping. . .how does one go from accusing the current admin. of the things you have about 9/11 to now obama bashing. . .so then go ahead roland, vote for mccain. . .you're lost bro

Urban Hiker

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

and the verdict is in

180 degree flip flop...

I rest my case.

I agree. Not a threat to a threat. Doesn't matter to whom. His implication is that if they continue to be considered a threat to us or our allies, he will push for an attack.

acoustic guy

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

impressive...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__JQquWTddE&feature=related

Man the people in here posting have the wool over their eyes.
What more do you need? He does not know what the fuck he is talking about!
He tells everyone what they want to here!
Jackass Obama, at least get some fucking balls and stand up for what you believe in. Make a choice and stick with it.

Rhinocerous Surprise

angryyoungman wrote:

speaking of flip flopping. . .how does one go from accusing the current admin. of the things you have about 9/11 to now obama bashing. . .so then go ahead roland, vote for mccain. . .you're lost bro

By judging politicians on the basis of their actions rather than the D or R beside their name, I'd wager.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

angryyoungman wrote:

speaking of flip flopping. . .how does one go from accusing the current admin. of the things you have about 9/11 to now obama bashing. . .so then go ahead roland, vote for mccain. . .you're lost bro

Just pointing out reality...straight from the horses mouth..that's all. Sorry you see that as a weakness.

Change you can believe in.

"To make the form, nature, content, future course, etc., of (something) different from what it is or from what it would be if left alone: to change one's name; to change one's opinion; to change the course of history."
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=change&x=0&y=0

Must be another definition for change in the English language I don't know about.

Swooned over by a smooth talking politician, is not something associated with my thought process.

mca47

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Swooned over by a smooth talking politician, is not something associated with my thought process.

Or the context of words.

Hey, if you posted a video that showed him actually contradicting himself I'd be in agreement...until that time comes you clearly...once again...tried for something that wasn't there.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mca47 wrote:

Or the context of words.

Hey, if you posted a video that showed him actually contradicting himself I'd be in agreement...until that time comes you clearly...once again...tried for something that wasn't there.

It's pretty clear he is taking two differing views on Iran.

love is blind so they say

hehe

mca47

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

It's pretty clear he is taking two differing views on Iran.

love is blind so they say

hehe

Like others have said, how can Iran really be a threat to the US? I agree our ports security is pretty week, but what exactly do we import from Iran and if they did get something in...what could be so detrimental to the US? If they flew a plane over they wouldn't get within 200 miles of any US boarder.
They are NO threat to the US, but unfortunately they do pose a threat to the area. They have the means to hit many targets in the region.

And you said yourself in another thread that they don't have nukes...and everyone knows this. They may not have nukes, but they do have an impressive arsenal and a lot of funding to back it.
Iran's citizens believe their own gov. are close to doing something and most of them are freaked the fuck out about it.
I'm sorry, it was just a bad video that shows nothing about him flip-flopping on the issue.

They are no threat to us.
They are a threat to the region.

Preeeeeety much what he has said all along and what most people have known for some time.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mca47 wrote:

Like others have said, how can Iran really be a threat to the US? I agree our ports security is pretty week, but what exactly do we import from Iran and if they did get something in...what could be so detrimental to the US? If they flew a plane over they wouldn't get within 200 miles of any US boarder.
They are NO threat to the US, but unfortunately they do pose a threat to the area. They have the means to hit many targets in the region.

And you said yourself in another thread that they don't have nukes...and everyone knows this. They may not have nukes, but they do have an impressive arsenal and a lot of funding to back it.
Iran's citizens believe their own gov. are close to doing something and most of them are freaked the fuck out about it.
I'm sorry, it was just a bad video that shows nothing about him flip-flopping on the issue.

They are no threat to us.
They are a threat to the region.

Preeeeeety much what he has said all along and what most people have known for some time.

You're entitled to your opinion even if it tuns a blind eye...

*Illegal* nuclear program I believe he said...

....and you're absolutely mad if you think people in the US aren't afraid of nuclear weapons falling into the wrong hands...such as the fear mongering case for intervention Barak was so candidly laying out *to an American audience*...in complete opposition to his original position and rhetoric about Iran.

complete 180...

cornnifer

Barack Obama detonated the strategically placed explosives that brought down the Twin Towers!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

cornnifer wrote:

Barack Obama detonated the strategically placed explosives that brought down the Twin Towers!

If nuclear reactors in Iran are any comparison...

It's quite possible in the future.

They have an "illegal" nuclear program after all and require strict intervention...words from the man himself.

fuck

Obama's supporters on this board really have not been making themselves, and thus they're candidate, look very good when they respond with ridiculously lame sarcastic jokes. :rolleyes:

Obama's foreign policy is shit.