Man the people in here posting have the wool over their eyes.
What more do you need? He does not know what the fuck he is talking about!
He tells everyone what they want to here!
Jackass Obama, at least get some fucking balls and stand up for what you believe in. Make a choice and stick with it.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
speaking of flip flopping. . .how does one go from accusing the current admin. of the things you have about 9/11 to now obama bashing. . .so then go ahead roland, vote for mccain. . .you're lost bro
By judging politicians on the basis of their actions rather than the D or R beside their name, I'd wager.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
speaking of flip flopping. . .how does one go from accusing the current admin. of the things you have about 9/11 to now obama bashing. . .so then go ahead roland, vote for mccain. . .you're lost bro
Just pointing out reality...straight from the horses mouth..that's all. Sorry you see that as a weakness.
Change you can believe in.
"To make the form, nature, content, future course, etc., of (something) different from what it is or from what it would be if left alone: to change one's name; to change one's opinion; to change the course of history." http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=change&x=0&y=0
Must be another definition for change in the English language I don't know about.
Swooned over by a smooth talking politician, is not something associated with my thought process.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Swooned over by a smooth talking politician, is not something associated with my thought process.
Or the context of words.
Hey, if you posted a video that showed him actually contradicting himself I'd be in agreement...until that time comes you clearly...once again...tried for something that wasn't there.
Hey, if you posted a video that showed him actually contradicting himself I'd be in agreement...until that time comes you clearly...once again...tried for something that wasn't there.
It's pretty clear he is taking two differing views on Iran.
love is blind so they say
hehe
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
It's pretty clear he is taking two differing views on Iran.
love is blind so they say
hehe
Like others have said, how can Iran really be a threat to the US? I agree our ports security is pretty week, but what exactly do we import from Iran and if they did get something in...what could be so detrimental to the US? If they flew a plane over they wouldn't get within 200 miles of any US boarder.
They are NO threat to the US, but unfortunately they do pose a threat to the area. They have the means to hit many targets in the region.
And you said yourself in another thread that they don't have nukes...and everyone knows this. They may not have nukes, but they do have an impressive arsenal and a lot of funding to back it.
Iran's citizens believe their own gov. are close to doing something and most of them are freaked the fuck out about it.
I'm sorry, it was just a bad video that shows nothing about him flip-flopping on the issue.
They are no threat to us.
They are a threat to the region.
Preeeeeety much what he has said all along and what most people have known for some time.
Like others have said, how can Iran really be a threat to the US? I agree our ports security is pretty week, but what exactly do we import from Iran and if they did get something in...what could be so detrimental to the US? If they flew a plane over they wouldn't get within 200 miles of any US boarder.
They are NO threat to the US, but unfortunately they do pose a threat to the area. They have the means to hit many targets in the region.
And you said yourself in another thread that they don't have nukes...and everyone knows this. They may not have nukes, but they do have an impressive arsenal and a lot of funding to back it.
Iran's citizens believe their own gov. are close to doing something and most of them are freaked the fuck out about it.
I'm sorry, it was just a bad video that shows nothing about him flip-flopping on the issue.
They are no threat to us.
They are a threat to the region.
Preeeeeety much what he has said all along and what most people have known for some time.
You're entitled to your opinion even if it tuns a blind eye...
*Illegal* nuclear program I believe he said...
....and you're absolutely mad if you think people in the US aren't afraid of nuclear weapons falling into the wrong hands...such as the fear mongering case for intervention Barak was so candidly laying out *to an American audience*...in complete opposition to his original position and rhetoric about Iran.
complete 180...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Barack Obama detonated the strategically placed explosives that brought down the Twin Towers!
If nuclear reactors in Iran are any comparison...
It's quite possible in the future.
They have an "illegal" nuclear program after all and require strict intervention...words from the man himself.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Obama's supporters on this board really have not been making themselves, and thus they're candidate, look very good when they respond with ridiculously lame sarcastic jokes. :rolleyes:
Sometimes I think Obama just says ridiculous things like this just to see if his supporters are even paying attention and can objectively think about what he is actually saying.
"It's in the bag guys.... I got them hypnotized..."
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Obama's supporters on this board really have not been making themselves, and thus they're candidate, look very good when they respond with ridiculously lame sarcastic jokes. :rolleyes:
Obama's foreign policy is shit.
lame sarcasatic jokes by obama supporters...
Clearly you have not visited the Obama's speech in Berlin thread yet.
And now you know how I, and most people on here, think about you.
Hooray for message board political discussion!
Sorry to see reality hit you too hard in the face on this one.
better luck next time.
Objective thinking is required in politics. Lies and manipulation abound as commonplace.
but you know that already (I hope)
however convinced I'm not.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
If there's one thing I've gathered so far, it's about discrediting the OP instead of objectively looking at the issue with factual information.
In a sense it's not that surprising to me.
Seems to confirm a few things.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Let's not jump off a cliff, but let's not pretend we can fly either....
eyes open...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Obama's supporters on this board really have not been making themselves, and thus they're candidate, look very good when they respond with ridiculously lame sarcastic jokes. :rolleyes:
Obama's foreign policy is shit.
some here are so sensitive...
It's amusing...thread after thread after thread...people bitch and moan about Obama, yet offer no alternative...no names, no support of others, no alternatives....just a bunch of hate filled spew toward Obama...
I guess Graham was right, we've become a nation of whiners...
Obama's supporters on this board really have not been making themselves, and thus they're candidate, look very good when they respond with ridiculously lame sarcastic jokes. .
Yeah, because as everyone knows, the REAL way to show off one's intelligence and integrity is to make solid points with carefully spliced and edited youtube video's. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
It's amusing...thread after thread after thread...people bitch and moan about Obama, yet offer no alternative...no names, no support of others, no alternatives....just a bunch of hate filled spew toward Obama...
I guess Graham was right, we've become a nation of whiners...
Actually, alternatives have been offered. you've just been ignoring it.
oh, and sorry if I'm sensitive about the potential president talking about stuff like this. I guess I should party more often.
funny, most of my friends complain that I'm not serious enough, and some of you guys complain that I'm too serious...
Yeah, because as everyone knows, the REAL way to show off one's intelligence and integrity is to make solid points with carefully spliced and edited youtube video's. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
There have been points made about Obama's stance on Iran throughout this thread and many others...
Sorry to see reality hit you too hard in the face on this one.
better luck next time.
Objective thinking is required in politics. Lies and manipulation abound as commonplace.
but you know that already (I hope)
however convinced I'm not.
Yeah, that's it. Reality hit me so hard in the face...that I now subscribe to the Roland 10-Step handbook for political observation.
Step 1) Stick to your guns no matter what
Step 2) Words are only important if they support your belief
Step 3) Discover links from obscure webpages that agree with your opinion despite them being factual and post them on message boards for all to be convinced.
Step 4) Sound bytes are your friend, especially coming from a politician you dislike.
Step 5) The term "conspiracy theory" had gotten a bad name, ignore that...keep on conspiring!
Step 6) If someone disagrees with you, revert back to previous argument despite the common and obvious facts. Note: Throw in a "Nuh-uh" every once and a while.
Step 7) The more posts in a thread the better. More posts = Success!
Step 8) Have the last word. You don't win unless you have the last word/post.
Step 9) Once everyone else has become exhausted from steps 1-8...find new thread.
Step 10) Real change (not that Obama guy) will happen by not voting and persistent argument on message boards.
Waiting for similar post about all of us "blind sheep"...
Yeah, that's it. Reality hit me so hard in the face...that I now subscribe to the Roland 10-Step handbook for political observation.
Step 1) Stick to your guns no matter what
Step 2) Words are only important if they support your belief
Step 3) Discover links from obscure webpages that agree with your opinion despite them being factual and post them on message boards for all to be convinced.
Step 4) Sound bytes are your friend, especially coming from a politician you dislike.
Step 5) The term "conspiracy theory" had gotten a bad name, ignore that...keep on conspiring!
Step 6) If someone disagrees with you, revert back to previous argument despite the common and obvious facts. Note: Throw in a "Nuh-uh" every once and a while.
Step 7) The more posts in a thread the better. More posts = Success!
Step 8) Have the last word. You don't win unless you have the last word/post.
Step 9) Once everyone else has become exhausted from steps 1-8...find new thread.
Step 10) Real change (not that Obama guy) will happen by not voting and persistent argument on message boards.
Waiting for similar post about all of us "blind sheep"...
You know what else goes on in the name of something else that hits people hard and square in the balls on US soil? Ttorture and acts of war , and spying in the name of something else. It slaps people in line...and pretty hard.
political tactics.... recognize em...and see them for what they really are.
eyes open
and you seem to keep missing the point that McBama said Iran's energy program was illegal....
Israel refuses to sign the non proliferation treaty, but not a peep from Barak on that... the double standard cars salesman...
maybe it will take a few weeks to sink in for you...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
"Halevy, who currently heads the Center for Strategic and Policy Studies at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, added that an Iranian attack on Israel would probably have little impact, because Iranian missiles would largely be intercepted by Israel's advanced anti-missile defense system."
"Another former senior Mossad official, who reportedly served during Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's administration, told the American magazine that "Iran's achievement is creating an image of itself as a scary superpower when it's really a paper tiger." "
Barak...do you have any idea what you;re talking about?
not a clue... he's just parroting the neo-con agenda on Iran.
What a chump...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Comments
What more do you need? He does not know what the fuck he is talking about!
He tells everyone what they want to here!
Jackass Obama, at least get some fucking balls and stand up for what you believe in. Make a choice and stick with it.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Just pointing out reality...straight from the horses mouth..that's all. Sorry you see that as a weakness.
Change you can believe in.
"To make the form, nature, content, future course, etc., of (something) different from what it is or from what it would be if left alone: to change one's name; to change one's opinion; to change the course of history."
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=change&x=0&y=0
Must be another definition for change in the English language I don't know about.
Swooned over by a smooth talking politician, is not something associated with my thought process.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Or the context of words.
Hey, if you posted a video that showed him actually contradicting himself I'd be in agreement...until that time comes you clearly...once again...tried for something that wasn't there.
It's pretty clear he is taking two differing views on Iran.
love is blind so they say
hehe
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Like others have said, how can Iran really be a threat to the US? I agree our ports security is pretty week, but what exactly do we import from Iran and if they did get something in...what could be so detrimental to the US? If they flew a plane over they wouldn't get within 200 miles of any US boarder.
They are NO threat to the US, but unfortunately they do pose a threat to the area. They have the means to hit many targets in the region.
And you said yourself in another thread that they don't have nukes...and everyone knows this. They may not have nukes, but they do have an impressive arsenal and a lot of funding to back it.
Iran's citizens believe their own gov. are close to doing something and most of them are freaked the fuck out about it.
I'm sorry, it was just a bad video that shows nothing about him flip-flopping on the issue.
They are no threat to us.
They are a threat to the region.
Preeeeeety much what he has said all along and what most people have known for some time.
You're entitled to your opinion even if it tuns a blind eye...
*Illegal* nuclear program I believe he said...
....and you're absolutely mad if you think people in the US aren't afraid of nuclear weapons falling into the wrong hands...such as the fear mongering case for intervention Barak was so candidly laying out *to an American audience*...in complete opposition to his original position and rhetoric about Iran.
complete 180...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
If nuclear reactors in Iran are any comparison...
It's quite possible in the future.
They have an "illegal" nuclear program after all and require strict intervention...words from the man himself.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Obama's foreign policy is shit.
"It's in the bag guys.... I got them hypnotized..."
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Clearly you have not visited the Obama's speech in Berlin thread yet.
And now you know how I, and most people on here, think about you.
Hooray for message board political discussion!
Sorry to see reality hit you too hard in the face on this one.
better luck next time.
Objective thinking is required in politics. Lies and manipulation abound as commonplace.
but you know that already (I hope)
however convinced I'm not.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
In a sense it's not that surprising to me.
Seems to confirm a few things.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Let's not jump off a cliff, but let's not pretend we can fly either....
eyes open...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
some here are so sensitive...
It's amusing...thread after thread after thread...people bitch and moan about Obama, yet offer no alternative...no names, no support of others, no alternatives....just a bunch of hate filled spew toward Obama...
I guess Graham was right, we've become a nation of whiners...
exactly...
I guess he's the best choice...
I'm sure McFlip can draw a crowd of 200 in berlin...he's our man...!!!
I wonder what his position is today...?
Yeah, because as everyone knows, the REAL way to show off one's intelligence and integrity is to make solid points with carefully spliced and edited youtube video's. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
oh, and sorry if I'm sensitive about the potential president talking about stuff like this. I guess I should party more often.
funny, most of my friends complain that I'm not serious enough, and some of you guys complain that I'm too serious...
he he...:D
Yeah, that's it. Reality hit me so hard in the face...that I now subscribe to the Roland 10-Step handbook for political observation.
Step 1) Stick to your guns no matter what
Step 2) Words are only important if they support your belief
Step 3) Discover links from obscure webpages that agree with your opinion despite them being factual and post them on message boards for all to be convinced.
Step 4) Sound bytes are your friend, especially coming from a politician you dislike.
Step 5) The term "conspiracy theory" had gotten a bad name, ignore that...keep on conspiring!
Step 6) If someone disagrees with you, revert back to previous argument despite the common and obvious facts. Note: Throw in a "Nuh-uh" every once and a while.
Step 7) The more posts in a thread the better. More posts = Success!
Step 8) Have the last word. You don't win unless you have the last word/post.
Step 9) Once everyone else has become exhausted from steps 1-8...find new thread.
Step 10) Real change (not that Obama guy) will happen by not voting and persistent argument on message boards.
Waiting for similar post about all of us "blind sheep"...
You know what else goes on in the name of something else that hits people hard and square in the balls on US soil? Ttorture and acts of war , and spying in the name of something else. It slaps people in line...and pretty hard.
political tactics.... recognize em...and see them for what they really are.
eyes open
and you seem to keep missing the point that McBama said Iran's energy program was illegal....
Israel refuses to sign the non proliferation treaty, but not a peep from Barak on that... the double standard cars salesman...
maybe it will take a few weeks to sink in for you...
in the meantime run some logic through this http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/07/torture-doesnt-work-so-what-is-real.html and do some simple arithmetic.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
"Halevy, who currently heads the Center for Strategic and Policy Studies at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, added that an Iranian attack on Israel would probably have little impact, because Iranian missiles would largely be intercepted by Israel's advanced anti-missile defense system."
"Another former senior Mossad official, who reportedly served during Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's administration, told the American magazine that "Iran's achievement is creating an image of itself as a scary superpower when it's really a paper tiger." "
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1005579.html
Barak...do you have any idea what you;re talking about?
not a clue... he's just parroting the neo-con agenda on Iran.
What a chump...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")