Rachel Corrie....dead at 23
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You may not have known who this little girl was, and who she grew up to be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7utrTTOg0KQ
Supported by hundreds of billions in US taxpayer money (and weapons) to oppressively occupy and murder innocent women and children in Palestine.
America's tax dollars hard at work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7utrTTOg0KQ
Supported by hundreds of billions in US taxpayer money (and weapons) to oppressively occupy and murder innocent women and children in Palestine.
America's tax dollars hard at work.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Personally , whilst finding her death sad , I've no idea if she was a martyr or a troublemaker .
I find the whole "Middle East" question too confusing . So many conflicting stories , so many atrocities on all sides , I just don't know who are the good guys and who are the bad ?
This applies to Israel , Palestine , Iraq ..... all of them . Sometimes it seems that everyone is in the wrong .
9/9/06
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Well, I'm sure running someone over with a tank when they are trying to protect a house from being bulldozed is no accident.
honestly, i feel like sometimes people forget who rachel corrie was and it's gonna sad...
ok right. so how did this girl die?
She got (intentionally ?) ran over by an Israeli tank. She was an aid worker, unless I'm mistaken.
intentionally? did she jump in front of it as a protest type thing? does anyone know the real story?
there was plenty of death in the middle east every before U S dollar 1 was every spent there.
if we do nothing they will kill each other, if we try and fund one or both sides they will kill each other, but I think the death rate is lower with our involvement, though I think we are going about dealing with almost every issue in the middle east wrong.
peace can't work everywhere yet, but their are peaceful nations in the middleeast, but that doesn't mean that they are full of peaceful people.
I think the way things are going, we can see Jordan, Egypt, and Pakistan fall to extremists overnight. The situation is so delicate, then what?
Not sure of the answer, but a lot of it has to come from muslims themselves, and changes in policies by the West.
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The US supports Israel. They give Israel more aid then they give every country combined.
The Israeli's are exterminating the Palestinians, and the media is hiding it. Actually worse than hiding it...they are spinning it to make it look normal and just. The crime of the century is in full swing right now, and here we are looking at Iran.
No ifs and's or buts...it's pure and simple genocide, and the US is in deep with both hands financing everything to make it all happen.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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This is the average semi-informed viewpoint. I used to think that way myself. You need to puke of that last bit of CNN propaganda bile that poisons your thinking.
It's genocide carried out by religious lunatics. Check out my Occupation 101 thread....and watch the movie.
You will fully understand afterwards.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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You're right. One thing the documentary points out is that its not true that people there have been at war forever. In fact, there was a relative sense of harmony between the Jews and Arabs. I'm not saying it was paradise, but there was peace. Things changed with the formation of Israel after WW II and the expulsion of thousands of Palestinians from the land in order to create the new state.
Therefore, what next? Are we going to hold Israel AND the Palestinians accountable or just Israel because they're successful and organized?
-Enoch Powell
You don't really seem to understand it. Hundreds (and hundreds, and hundreds) of billions of dollars and endless military support tanks, planes, guns, bombs etc... v.s. kids throwing rocks and the odd farmer that can get his hands on something to actually fight back with.
Yeah man....it's like that. Just like that.
Your head has been programmed by a very cunning, and highly deceptive media, up down and sideways.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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So I guess Hamas is just madeup pretend! Haha, talk about "programmed."
-Enoch Powell
I expected you to revolt against the logic of it. You don't seem to get it...why is that?
It's not a question anymore what is going on over there. Please catch up with the rest of reality.
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sorry, but you're wrong, the video is as much propaganda as some sort of CNN agenda you reference, wouldn't know, I don't watch CNN. Anyway, it's not nearly as simple as you make it out to be. The relgious lunatics are only a section of the problem there, we here in the U S are a part of the problem because all we act on is the last few decades or last weeks cable news report, and the issue is thousands of years old. If most people knew the history, muslim vs jew vs christian, muslim vs muslim, trib vs trib, family vs family, how many times the so called holy land has switch masters, and how much money goes into that region today to keep the peace, steal more land, and/or create more turmoil they would be amazed. Even those that think they know what's going on.
anyone that thinks any side will win without compremise on all sides, at all levels is kidding themselves. Muslim extremist seem to have no problem waiting, there are far more of them then Jews.
There was a possibility to continue to chip away at states and get them to go by the way of Jordan and Egypt, but with invading Iraq unnecessarilly, there is more of a chance that Pakistan, Egypt, and Jordan, among others, make fall to extremists coup's in the future than more muslim countries going the moderate, peaceful, world participating route.
My take is that Israel well nuc it's enemies before it gives up it's state.
This is what you get when holy land is more important than the holy faith.
You might have a better chance for peace by moving everyone out of the Jerusalem area and nuc it.
If the U S was able to drop their oil consumption by 19%, the amount we import from the Middle East, we wouldn't need to protect the oil reserves then, so how would our allegiance to Israel look then? Not sure....
Any chance of strong leaders in the middle east stepping up and trying for peace with all and not getting killed first?
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If you say and think that...then you don't know what's really going on.
I could create some simple scenarios that would turn you into a terrorist against me just by me doing what Israel is doing. With a snap of my fingers.
That's the hard truth. It's not even a question anymore man. It's reality. Exactly the same as what the US is doing in Iraq.
Huge US military war mongering corporations tell the politicians, and media what to say and do in order to make money. It's all one big sleep in bed together brainwash being carried on the dumbed down people of America. Hundreds of billions of dollars to fight farmers with AK47's and shoulder rockets?!?! ...I mean really....who's kidding who here?
Who is actually buying this shit? Billions of dollars to fight a country that was bombed back to the stone ages in the first gulf war?
Disgusting lies and manipulation...it's sickening. Stop swallowing it.
It's not a 1000's of years old war...that's the ongoing myth. It started up in the 1920's by an imposed occupation.
It's the same as apartheid..it's the same as Iraq...it's going to be the exact same deal in Iran.
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They get away with murder regularly...riding on the backs of US taxpayers and more billions in religious donations from Christian televangelists.
Rescuing Private Lynch...but forgetting Rachel Corrie:
http://www.monabaker.com/pMachine/more.php?id=A831_0_1_0_M
sad...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hurndall
Ah, that would explain the pic in the article above I posted.
As soon as I found out any Israeli from anywhere around the world can get a free govt loan (if they stay 10 years) to have some tank bulldoze a palestinian home as the soldiers beat and kick (and shoot) women and children to get them to leave so they can make room make room for a nice new Jewish house...FOR FREE...
Palestinians have no water to drink, just some muddy infested puddle, while Jews just across the way are lavishing in backyard swimming pools, with air conditioned houses.
That's when it all became clear to me exactly what's going on.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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http://www.rachelswords.org/about/
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over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Here is a hint:
Don't side with you oppressor.
Don't side with those who constantly wage war.
There are no good guys, but there sure as hell are bad guys.
Nothing is black and white... surely, all is gray.
The SECOND they do not turn the other cheek and actually rise up, the media jumps all over it painting them as blood thirsty terrorists that want to kill you and your children.
Granted the response by the palestinians is wrong. But think about it. Who takes their own life in a suicide to defend themselves? A sad, desperate person with no hope whatsoever for the future. Not some maniac...no....not at all. Let's be very clear about this reality. You need to really think hard about it.
Trust me on this...it's a disgusting dual standard that entails the extermination of an entire race of people.
One side is a trillion dollars in endless support...nukes, tanks f-16's and the latest technology of modern weaponry...the other side is sheer poverty, hopelessness, and desperation using anything they can get their hands on to survive.
The equation and numbers are simple to understand. It's a calculated extermination.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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True. And the U.S has just pumped in another $30-billion to this brutal and illegal military occupation.
http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm
'Total U.S. aid to Israel is approximately one-third of the American foreign-aid budget, even though Israel comprises just .001 percent of the world's population and already has one of the world's higher per capita incomes. Indeed, Israel's GNP is higher than the combined GNP of Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, the West Bank and Gaza. With a per capita income of about $14,000, Israel ranks as the sixteenth wealthiest country in the world; Israelis enjoy a higher per capita income than oil-rich Saudi Arabia and are only slightly less well-off than most Western European countries.'
'Since 1949 the U.S. has given Israel a total of $83.205 billion. The interest costs borne by U.S. tax payers on behalf of Israel are $49.937 billion, thus making the total amount of aid given to Israel since 1949 $133.132 billion. This may mean that U.S. government has given more federal aid to the average Israeli citizen in a given year than it has given to the average American citizen.'
Think of how many Haitis you could rebuild with 83.205 billion!
"I hate Israel!"
"Yeah! Me too!"
"Israel is the worstest place on earth!"
"Palestinians are little angels on clouds with harpsichords, and the Israeli ogres just want to kill them and eat them and piss in their eye sockets!"
"I heard that Israelis have horns and tails and murder Palestinian babies and use their blood in Jew rituals!"
"Yeah, and everyone else would realize how right we are if they weren't so brainwashed by reality!"
"Yeah, I hate reality! It's so complicated!"
This makes me think of a conversation I just had over dinner with a pretty eminent journalist who is teaching at the Columbia journalism school. He said he is tired of interviewing extremists because they are all the same regardless of their politics. He said that their psychology is essentially juvenile, that they all think like 15 year olds. They've just discovered abstract ideas and are using them to explain everything in the world. And when something doesn't fit with their explanation they simply ignore it. Except with a 15 year old it's kind of cute, but with a 50 year old it's really scary. Basically I'm saying that this board has the tone of a high-school cafeteria.
silly, yosi, they don't want to eat them, just harvest their organs without consent!
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what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
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when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
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