Have you see this? YES WE CAN

Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
edited February 2008 in A Moving Train
http://www.dipdive.com

If you get a blank screen, hit "Replay" on the right side of the page.
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  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    bumping, because I want to, and because YES I CAN!
    Feels Good Inc.
  • JamalJamal Posts: 2,115
    Bu2 wrote:
    http://www.dipdive.com

    If you get a blank screen, hit "Replay" on the right side of the page.
    incredible, thanks for showing this
    never knew this was out there...

    I must admit, I almost shed a tear by this... I'm 1/4 African living in Belgium, where polictics are coordinated by white, black left out
    We recently had our first black member of the mayor's house elected (schepen in Dutch, don't know the English word)... Wouter van Bellinge.
    Kudos to him

    and good luck to Obama, let him be the first to lead the path to many others
    Surf little waves big... Charge big waves hard

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  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Thanks, Jamal.

    For those of you who aren't familiar with this video yet, I'd like to add what I know about it.

    It was made by will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas, after he watched Barack Obama's concession speech made in New Hampshire.

    Will felt the message that Barack gave that night, and set it to music. Within a week, he asked his friends to get involved, and they in turn asked THEIR friends to get involved. These friends include Scarlett Johannsen, Nick Cannon, Herbie Hancock and many others.

    They put this video together in less than a week.

    Why?

    Because YES WE CAN!!
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  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    And I meant to say, "Have you seeN this?"

    But I was typing too fast.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3284825.ece
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=FxyPBmZE69s&feature=related
    AMY GOODMAN: Barack Obama?

    ALLAN NAIRN: Well, Obama’s top adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski gave an interview to the French press a number of years ago where he boasted about the fact that it was he who created the whole Afghan jihadi movement, the movement that produced Osama bin Laden. And he was asked by the interviewer, “Well, don’t you think this might have had some bad consequences?” And Brzezinski replied, “Absolutely not. It was definitely worth it, because we were going after the Soviets. We were getting the Soviets.” Another top Obama person—

    AMY GOODMAN: I think his comment actually was, “What’s a few riled-up Muslims?” And this, that whole idea of blowback, the idea of arming, financing, training the Mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets, including Osama bin Laden, and then when they’re done with the Soviets, they set their sights, well, on the United States.

    ALLAN NAIRN:

    Another key Obama adviser, Anthony Lake, he was the main force behind the US invasion of Haiti in the mid-Clinton years during which they brought back Aristide essentially in political chains, pledged to support a World Bank/IMF overhaul of the economy, which resulted in an increase in malnutrition deaths among Haitians and set the stage for the current ongoing political disaster in Haiti.

    Another Obama adviser, General Merrill McPeak, an Air Force man, who not long after the Dili massacre in East Timor in ’91 that you and I survived, he was—I happened to see on Indonesian TV shortly after that—there was General McPeak overseeing the delivery to Indonesia of US fighter planes.

    ...

    Another Obama adviser, Sarah Sewall, who heads a human rights center at Harvard and is a former Defense official, she wrote the introduction to General Petraeus’s Marine Corps/Army counterinsurgency handbook, the handbook that is now being used worldwide by US troops in various killing operations. That’s the Obama team.

    http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/3/vote_for_change_atrocity_linked_us
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Feels Good Inc.
  • Nevermind wrote:
    ALLAN NAIRN: Well, Obama’s top adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski.

    Are you fucking serious !!@?#@!?!#??
    I just did a FUCKING SPIT TAKE!

    I swear to god folks.
    I just lost ALL respect for Obama!
    ALL OF IT.

    Zbigniew Brzezinski is CFR, Trilateral, & Bilderberg.... ALL OF THEM.

    Read it here! ... Tri-Lateral Commission co-founder with David Rockefeller!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This IS the establishment.

    This IS NOT CHANGE!

    This is like the day i found out that Huckabee's top advisor was Richard Haas. THAT IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE FUCKING CFR!

    Do you people not see a VERY REAL pattern here?

    These people are ALL CFR\Bilderberg\Trilateral. They are ALL representatives\puppets of the elite.

    Either direct sympathizers of the money-trust, or mere actors on a stage, allowed to dance around, paid money to do a song and dance for the public ... to do a fucking pupet show ... and to go out and do it extra hard every four years ... hell, they have to even have a boxing match, and get ugly with eachother. BUT IT IS ALL JUST FOR SHOW!

    WHY IS OBAMA SO GODDAMN FUCKING FRIENDLY WITH HILLARY !?!

    At the end of the day, every debate, they practicaly make love to eachother after some bickering over feeble differences (my plan vs your plan, this dollar vs that dollar, blah blah blah) ... but they are one and the same. And so are their republican counterparts.

    ISN'T POLITICS SUPPOSED TO BE PERSONAL HEATED?

    Seriously. We are talking about the way the country\western world is run\dominated.
    IF SOMEONE SERIOUSLY DISAGREES WITH YOU, isn't that cause to be passionately opposed? Do you really go and fucking hug them and show your support? "Hey i know we are diametricaly opposed on every issue possible, but you're a decent fellow." ... no ... thats only how you act if its a fucking GAME. THIS IS NOT A GAME! This is how your life is going to be run. Because that is what these people want: TO RUN YOUR LIFE. They don't want you to have REAL liberty, they want to keep you pacified. And Obama sure seems to be the great pacifier. "Oh okay, we can all be happy now. We have a 'GOOD' guy in office." Yeah right!
    People think about this stuff.

    These people are all memebers of the same private clubs ... the same highly exclusive "think tanks" where the SUPERDUPERELITE get together and plot and scheme to STAY IN POWER.

    Obama just gave you the giant clue you need to figure that out, and his name is Zbigniew Brzezinski.

    Obama = ONE OF THEM!
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    So am I still just talking out of my ass?
  • Nevermind wrote:
    So am I still just talking out of my ass?

    you've been on the money, in my book.
    :D
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    you've been on the money, in my book.
    :D
    Im glad there are a few of you out there. I almost lost hope.
  • I feel like I have been just punched in the gut and kicked in the balls and then curbed in the face.

    Excuse me while I go puke...
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    "Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
  • Nevermind wrote:
    You must have no soul. Should get off the antidepressants

    Fuck you...
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  • Nevermind wrote:
    You must have no soul. Should get off the antidepressants

    I think what he is saying is he feels sick because the Brzezinski connection in your post paints Obama as the very globalist-elitist shmuck that he thought he was voting AGAINST.

    I could be wrong.
    Maybe you just converted him.

    One can only hope that is what he was saying.
    Because Obama is certainly FALSE HOPE!
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • I think what he is saying is he feels sick because the Brzezinski connection in your post paints Obama as the very globalist-elitist shmuck that he thought he was voting AGAINST.

    I could be wrong.
    Maybe you just converted him.

    One can only hope that is what he was saying.
    Because Obama is certainly FALSE HOPE!

    His IQ is too low to realize this...
    10.31.93 / 10.1.94 / 6.24.95 / 11.4.95 / 10.19-20.96 / 7.16.98 / 7.21.98 / 10.31.00 /8.4.01 Nader Rally/ 10.21.01 / 12.8-9.02 / 6.01.03 / 9.1.05 / 7.15-16,18.06 / 7.20.06 / 7.22-23.06 / Lolla 07
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    I apologize if you learned something. But when people put a bunch of periods at the end of a sentence it might make others think your being sarcastic. If you want I can take an IQ test. If I do you have to post your results also though.
  • His IQ is too low to realize this...

    Actualy he has been on the money in all of his posts over the last few months.

    He probably has just witnessed you arguing on the wrong side of issues elsewhere and incorrectly deduced that you were doing so again.

    Are you still supporting Obama now?
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • Im tired of you fucks... Klausen had it right, message boards are not positive places...
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Im tired of you fucks... Klausen had it right, message boards are not positive places...
    This place is just too crowded and theirs too many different opinions and too many egos. Sorry about my comment though . Ive been high and awake for 2 days now.
  • Im tired of you fucks... Klausen had it right, message boards are not positive places...

    Politics is generaly not a place to go searching for warm fuzzies man.

    Like i said, it is SUPPOSED to be personal and heated.

    When it gets to the point that American politics has gotten where ALL players on ALL sides kiss eachothers ass, YOU KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG!

    The fact that you feel ill over this is probably an indication that the message board IS having a positive effect.

    You are learning somthing.
    Maybe it wasn't a pleasant process,
    but no one ever said the truth was necessarily beautiful.
    It is only what it says it is ... TRUTH.

    Those of us passionate about our beliefs will continue to be vocal about our positions.

    :D
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    I think what he is saying is he feels sick because the Brzezinski connection in your post paints Obama as the very globalist-elitist shmuck that he thought he was voting AGAINST.

    I could be wrong.
    Maybe you just converted him.

    One can only hope that is what he was saying.
    Because Obama is certainly FALSE HOPE!

    perhaps you should loosen your tin-foil hat

    I'm not saying that Brzezinski is great but he's not the spawn of satan that you're making him out to be. if he's is such a global elitest looking to take over the world then why was he (from the beginning) and continues to be such an outspoken critic of the US invasion and war with Iraq? why has been against and openly critisizes everything about Dubya's foreign policies? explain why he was formerly on the board of directors for Amnesty International? oh and Zbigniew Brzezinski is just one of several of Obama's foreign policy advisors.

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/12/358475.aspx



    I know that you hate anything that doesn't go along with your American isolationist ideals, but there's a big ol' world outside the borders of the US that we have to share this planet with







    as for Tony Rezko; Obama has admitted that having anything to do with him was a bone-headed mistake. and he has given the $150,000 in donations from him to charity. I'll take a candidate that can at least admit it when he fucks up and does what he can to fairly remedy the situation rather than all the jerks that just try to deny and cover-up their fuck ups.
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  • JulienJulien Posts: 2,457
    Bu2 wrote:
    http://www.dipdive.com

    If you get a blank screen, hit "Replay" on the right side of the page.
    thanks for that link !
    Scarlett Johanssen is hot :D
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  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    oooh i'm sorry Bu, i clicked on this thread to thank you for posting this and i let the negative nimrods distract me.

    Thank You, this is really great :)
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  • prism wrote:
    perhaps you should loosen your tin-foil hat

    I'm not saying that Brzezinski is great but he's not the spawn of satan that you're making him out to be. if he's is such a global elitest looking to take over the world then why was he (from the beginning) and continues to be such an outspoken critic of the US invasion and war with Iraq? why has been against and openly critisizes everything about Dubya's foreign policies? explain why he was formerly on the board of directors for Amnesty International? oh and Zbigniew Brzezinski is just one of several of Obama's foreign policy advisors.

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/12/358475.aspx



    I know that you hate anything that doesn't go along with your American isolationist ideals, but there's a big ol' world outside the borders of the US that we have to share this planet with







    as for Tony Rezko; Obama has admitted that having anything to do with him was a bone-headed mistake. and he has given the $150,000 in donations from him to charity. I'll take a candidate that can at least admit it when he fucks up and does what he can to fairly remedy the situation rather than all the jerks that just try to deny and cover-up their fuck ups.

    Well i respect your opinion, for starters.

    I'll be honest with you, I have some personal confictions concerning Brzezinski. I thought he was pure evil until I heard him speak on some CNN broadcast in 2007. It made me REALY question what was going on.

    All I can say is that if I have learned anything about the elite, politics, and power ... it is that they may and often do bicker about serious differences of opinion concerning how to best secure their power (socialism vs. fasicsm being a good one) but at the end of the day they will come back to agreement on most things - especialy maintaining their power! Beyond that, the money is often backing BOTH "sides".

    As far as Brzezinski is concerned specificaly, like I said for a while i thought maybe he WAS breaking with the establishment. But I believe that it is mostly just rhetoric, subterfuge, and obfuscation ... look, the man had SERIOUS disagreements with Kissinger over detente and a few other major issues ... but BOTH He and Kissinger are MAJOR players in the CFR.

    Just because Brzezinski doesn't agree with Bush's handling of foreign affairs does NOT mean he is on the right side of the fence. What if the guy just thinks Bush fucked up because he made people distrust the government? Judging by the mans record, HE HAS NO PROBLEM BACKING INTOLERABLY VILE DICTATORS, so long as they are good business for the US. He backed the Shaw of Iran "to the hilt", and let us not forget about Xiaoping ... remember Tiananmen Square? How bout the Taliban? He sure gave them plenty of support.

    So maybe ole Brzezinski just didn't think that getting rid of a perfectly servicable oppressive dicator was necessary. It doesn't make him a great guy. And in fact, i think the record is pretty clear that he is a MAJOR player in "the establishment" ... as one of the key advisors of a guy who claims to be all about some "change", that rings pretty hollow to me!

    And yeah. Foreign policy is important. Ron Paul isn't an isolationist though, so you can stop making false statements now.

    And its nice that Obama is willing to admit that he associates with scumbags once he gets caught. All though to be fair, i think the land "scandal" that hillary brought up regarding Rezko is pretty pathetic.

    What i find more indicting however, is that Rezko was actualy a fundraiser for the CLINTONS back in the 90's ... See the pictures ? But now he has conributed to Barack?

    So my concern is less "Just how evil is Brzezinski" and more "Just how much change does Barack Obama represent if he is associate, funded, and advised by the very same people which he claims to be changing course away from?" ... and i think that answer, in light of these things, is increasingly: NOT MUCH.
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Think for yourself. Question Authority. They are all just actors. They all have a role to play.
  • Nevermind wrote:
    I apologize if you learned something. But when people put a bunch of periods at the end of a sentence it might make others think your being sarcastic. If you want I can take an IQ test. If I do you have to post your results also though.

    Only if you provide a bell chart to prove your IQ. We've been told they are quite popular on the RP forums.
  • Julien wrote:
    thanks for that link !
    Scarlett Johanssen is hot :D

    Yes she is, and she has a great voice. I think I remember somewhere that she is putting out an album of Tom Waits covers...
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Only if you provide a bell chart to prove your IQ. We've been told they are quite popular on the RP forums.
    Havent even signed up dipshit. Personal attacks should be restricted to a different forum. This ones to discuss politics.
  • Nevermind wrote:
    Havent even signed up dipshit. Personal attacks should be restricted to a different forum. This ones to discuss politics.

    How the bloody fuck did I do a personal attack on you? I have a feeling admin would favor a smartass comment from me about bell graphs over you calling another poster a "dipshit".
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    Just because Brzezinski doesn't agree with Bush's handling of foreign affairs does NOT mean he is on the right side of the fence. What if the guy just thinks Bush fucked up because he made people distrust the government?

    the What if here is conjecture on your part. while he's concerned with Bush having fucked-up US's credibilty he's against his foreign policies for reasons that go beyond that. does this sound like someone who's concern is with the way that the US is handling Iraq and that we should be taking over Iraq his way?

    just two of his views regarding Iraq:

    We have destroyed our credibility; no one believes anything the president says anymore. We have tarnished our morality with Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. These are phenomenal costs. And there's, of course, blood and money and tens of thousands of Iraqi killed.

    We have to get rid of this colonialist mindset that we are there to teach them how to be a country, how to be a democracy, how to avoid a civil war. This is their country. They're quite capable of running it once we're out.





    Judging by the mans record, HE HAS NO PROBLEM BACKING INTOLERABLY VILE DICTATORS, so long as they are good business for the US. He backed the Shaw of Iran "to the hilt", and let us not forget about Xiaoping ... remember Tiananmen Square? How bout the Taliban? He sure gave them plenty of support.

    yep, having backed the Shaw of Iran was stupid, as he probably figured out.

    and yes he did reestablish diplomatic realtions with China under Xiaoping in '79. does that mean that he backed Xiaoping and was against the protests at Tiananmen Square ten years later in '89? NO. you're taking a big leap to try to connect the two there.

    back he supported arming the mujaheddin in Afganistan in order to defeat the Soviet invasion in the early 80's. remember when the Soviet Union was everything that was evil? I can find nothing that says he ever backed the Taliban.







    So maybe ole Brzezinski just didn't think that getting rid of a perfectly servicable oppressive dicator was necessary. It doesn't make him a great guy. And in fact, i think the record is pretty clear that he is a MAJOR player in "the establishment" ... as one of the key advisors of a guy who claims to be all about some "change", that rings pretty hollow to me!

    except that he has said that the only good thing to come out of the Iraq war was getting rid of Hussein.

    once again, I'm not defending Brzezinski. just explaing some facts that you're not looking at as you jump to conclusions. he's just one of Obama's 8 foreign policy advisors. additionally Obama has 13 national security advisors. so if you think that he's going to be calling all of the shots for Obama regarding foreign policy? well you're smarter than that



    What i find more indicting however, is that Rezko was actualy a fundraiser for the CLINTONS back in the 90's ... See the pictures ? But now he has conributed to Barack?

    he's been a fundraiser for lots of politicians besides the Clintons and Obama. Obama has admitted that having anything to do with Rezko was wrong, and donated to charity the $150,000 brought in Rezko. so, your point is


    So my concern is less "Just how evil is Brzezinski" and more "Just how much change does Barack Obama represent if he is associate, funded, and advised by the very same people which he claims to be changing course away from?" ... and i think that answer, in light of these things, is increasingly: NOT MUCH.

    based on your opinions and the answer according to you. if you look at the facts as a whole you'll see that you're trying to nit-pick for reasons to discredit Obama and insist that he's the same as every other politician, when that is far from the truth.
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