I'm very confident in calling myself agnostic. Although I will be the first to point out my Catholic upbringing as being my moral center......not sure if thats the right word.
I still haven't figured out what or how my parents raised me to be a 'good' person, but I have had many people say that I am. And the only thing I can think of that caused me to be 'good' is the teachings of the bible.
I was raised Faith Lutheran and I thought about this as well. To be honest I found that all of my morals came from child-rearing and children's books. One-on-one parenting imbibed me with most of them and they were corroborated by children's stories.
I just don't understand how faith in God plays that big of role in some peoples lives that they choose to ignore people that don't agree with them.
I was curious about that too. I found an answer in the brain.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
that's an incredibly fucked up thing to say to a mother who just lost her daughter.
Isn't it though??? feck, I could NOT believe someone would say that. my friend's parents have never really recovered(how could one??? ) from the loss of their daughter and people like that sure don't help much.
no, why would i need to make up with either of them?
my one sister and i have an on-going agreement that she doesn't mention her religion to me and I don't tell her that she's bat-shit crazy for believing her religion
the other one really does go into churches and befriends sick and elderly folks. she gains their trust by telling them that what a holy, God fearing, Jesus loving, good Christian woman she is. then she proceeds get them to sign over power of attorney to her so that she steal everything they own. even going so far as to expose her then 9 year old daughter to a child molester so that she could run her scam on an Uncle of ours. she's a disgusting excuse for a human being. and I do not consider myself any relation to her and neither does my brother or my other sister.
I may not be a Christian or "have a relationship with God" but i'm not a thief, i'm a not liar, I don't do anything to harm others. I can be quite kind and compassionate to others without expecting anything in return. so yeah if that makes me an ebil, ebil heathen headed to hell than so fucking be it
no, why would i need to make up with either of them?
my one sister and i have an on-going agreement that she doesn't mention her religion to me and I don't tell her that she's bat-shit crazy for believing her religion
the other one really does go into churches and befriends sick and elderly folks. she gains their trust by telling them that what a holy, God fearing, Jesus loving, good Christian woman she is. then she proceeds get them to sign over power of attorney to her so that she steal everything they own. even going so far as to expose her then 9 year old daughter to a child molester so that she could run her scam on an Uncle of ours. she's a disgusting excuse for a human being. and I do not consider myself any relation to her and neither does my brother or my other sister.
I may not be a Christian or "have a relationship with God" but i'm not a thief, i'm a not liar, I don't do anything to harm others. I can be quite kind and compassionate to others without expecting anything in return. so yeah if that makes me an ebil, ebil heathen headed to hell than so fucking be it
OMG..that is terrible. terrible. I have always believed in being a good person and not hurting others and helping where you can. Honestly being a decent person is far better than pretending to be a saint .
OMG..that is terrible. terrible. I have always believed in being a good person and not hurting others and helping where you can. Honestly being a decent person is far better than pretending to be a saint .
right....and being a decent person isn't at all dependent on being religious or in having any kind of belief in God.
my ex-sister was so shady and out to rip people off to that a couple of years before our Mom died my brother had to move in to protect Mom from her because she lived next door. I feel so awful for my neice....she's home schooled and always has been so all that child has ever known is the insanity of her parents. :(
no, why would i need to make up with either of them?
my one sister and i have an on-going agreement that she doesn't mention her religion to me and I don't tell her that she's bat-shit crazy for believing her religion
the other one really does go into churches and befriends sick and elderly folks. she gains their trust by telling them that what a holy, God fearing, Jesus loving, good Christian woman she is. then she proceeds get them to sign over power of attorney to her so that she steal everything they own. even going so far as to expose her then 9 year old daughter to a child molester so that she could run her scam on an Uncle of ours. she's a disgusting excuse for a human being. and I do not consider myself any relation to her and neither does my brother or my other sister.
I may not be a Christian or "have a relationship with God" but i'm not a thief, i'm a not liar, I don't do anything to harm others. I can be quite kind and compassionate to others without expecting anything in return. so yeah if that makes me an ebil, ebil heathen headed to hell than so fucking be it
wow, sorry to hear that.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
no, why would i need to make up with either of them?
my one sister and i have an on-going agreement that she doesn't mention her religion to me and I don't tell her that she's bat-shit crazy for believing her religion
the other one really does go into churches and befriends sick and elderly folks. she gains their trust by telling them that what a holy, God fearing, Jesus loving, good Christian woman she is. then she proceeds get them to sign over power of attorney to her so that she steal everything they own. even going so far as to expose her then 9 year old daughter to a child molester so that she could run her scam on an Uncle of ours. she's a disgusting excuse for a human being. and I do not consider myself any relation to her and neither does my brother or my other sister.
I may not be a Christian or "have a relationship with God" but i'm not a thief, i'm a not liar, I don't do anything to harm others. I can be quite kind and compassionate to others without expecting anything in return. so yeah if that makes me an ebil, ebil heathen headed to hell than so fucking be it
perhaps you ought to let the police know about this...
Agnostic theist? I'm not particularly religous in any way, but i think their is some sort of higher power. hell, it might just be the sun or just general luck. I won't lie though, i do my cross every night and pray for my family's safety. why the cross, well, tradition and respect for my parent's beliefs are a few reasons.
I'm an atheist. Most people I meet know what an atheist is, most of them are agnostic. I can't say I know a single person younger than 35 who has strong religious beliefs. I guess that's a huge cultural difference between North-America and Europe. I remember this girl I met in Canada and she was 19 and believed in god, had bible verses on her wall for inspiration, went to church every sunday ... I was stunned.
I went to catholic school, but again I'm not quite sure if a comparison between an American catholic schools and a European or Belgian ones can be made. When you're a child, you don't really question these things all that much, though I must say when I was younger my beliefs always centered around Jesus and not god, although I did believe there was a god. But I never believed Jesus walked over water, made water into wine ...
For those of you who don't follow any organized religion, what is your chosen term you use to describe your stance? And of the people you've had to explain it to, how many understood and/or agreed with you?
Just curious. I consider myself Agnostic, by the way. And I have to constantly explain it.
i am nostic and don't feel the need to explain anything to anyone.
I'm an atheist. Most people I meet know what an atheist is, most of them are agnostic. I can't say I know a single person younger than 35 who has strong religious beliefs. I guess that's a huge cultural difference between North-America and Europe. I remember this girl I met in Canada and she was 19 and believed in god, had bible verses on her wall for inspiration, went to church every sunday ... I was stunned.
I went to catholic school, but again I'm not quite sure if a comparison between an American catholic schools and a European or Belgian ones can be made. When you're a child, you don't really question these things all that much, though I must say when I was younger my beliefs always centered around Jesus and not god, although I did believe there was a god. But I never believed Jesus walked over water, made water into wine ...
i try to hire kids to work on sunday but can't find any that are not in church. i guess it depends on where you live.
no, why would i need to make up with either of them?
my one sister and i have an on-going agreement that she doesn't mention her religion to me and I don't tell her that she's bat-shit crazy for believing her religion
the other one really does go into churches and befriends sick and elderly folks. she gains their trust by telling them that what a holy, God fearing, Jesus loving, good Christian woman she is. then she proceeds get them to sign over power of attorney to her so that she steal everything they own. even going so far as to expose her then 9 year old daughter to a child molester so that she could run her scam on an Uncle of ours. she's a disgusting excuse for a human being. and I do not consider myself any relation to her and neither does my brother or my other sister.
I may not be a Christian or "have a relationship with God" but i'm not a thief, i'm a not liar, I don't do anything to harm others. I can be quite kind and compassionate to others without expecting anything in return. so yeah if that makes me an ebil, ebil heathen headed to hell than so fucking be it
i know people like that. but when you get down to it; she is not religious; she only uses religion to steal; as one may use a gun or knife to steal. people like sister thereasa used religion to help and save thousands of people. i use a gun as a tool necessary to my career; yet others use a gun for illegal gain.
should i condemn atheists because of the behavior of ahnimus? no; that is wrong. i shouldn't condemn a people for the actions of a few.
i know people like that. but when you get down to it; she is not religious; she only uses religion to steal; as one may use a gun or knife to steal. people like sister thereasa used religion to help and save thousands of people. i use a gun as a tool necessary to my career; yet others use a gun for illegal gain.
should i condemn atheists because of the behavior of ahnimus? no; that is wrong. i shouldn't condemn a people for the actions of a few.
I don't lie, cheat or steal.
Didn't Thereasa just put a bunch of dieing people in the same room. The various diseases probably combined and mutated into a super-virus that killed everyone faster. But, as far as I know, all she did was gather up dieing people and put them all in one building. She didn't 'save' anyone.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Didn't Thereasa just put a bunch of dieing people in the same room. The various diseases probably combined and mutated into a super-virus that killed everyone faster. But, as far as I know, all she did was gather up dieing people and put them all in one building. She didn't 'save' anyone.
when you bring food to a starving person; or medical care to a dying person; isn't that saving them? a hospital brings many sick people into one building. a resturant brings many hungry people to one building. she brought the resturant and hospital to the people that had nothing.
Didn't Thereasa just put a bunch of dieing people in the same room. The various diseases probably combined and mutated into a super-virus that killed everyone faster. But, as far as I know, all she did was gather up dieing people and put them all in one building. She didn't 'save' anyone.
wow, i've never seen someone knock mother theresa before... she brought comfort to the sick and dying people that nobody else wanted to touch. she helped them die with dignity and helped some survive and get back on their feet. she worked in the worst slums in the world, period. she tried to ease the poverty of the most poor, diseased, downtrodden people in the world. i cannot believe someone's actually acting like that's no big deal. i'd like to see get the fuck off this board and try helping some people like that, instead of spewing your masturbatory rhetoric here and acting like you're doing the world a whole bunch of good by "bringing the truth" to the 50 people that actually read the pearl jam message board political forum.
wow, i've never seen someone knock mother theresa before... she brought comfort to the sick and dying people that nobody else wanted to touch. she helped them die with dignity and helped some survive and get back on their feet. she worked in the worst slums in the world, period. she tried to ease the poverty of the most poor, diseased, downtrodden people in the world. i cannot believe someone's actually acting like that's no big deal. i'd like to see get the fuck off this board and try helping some people like that, instead of spewing your masturbatory rhetoric here and acting like you're doing the world a whole bunch of good by "bringing the truth" to the 50 people that actually read the pearl jam message board political forum.
it must be the end of the world.....i agree with ss!
wow, i've never seen someone knock mother theresa before... she brought comfort to the sick and dying people that nobody else wanted to touch. she helped them die with dignity and helped some survive and get back on their feet. she worked in the worst slums in the world, period. she tried to ease the poverty of the most poor, diseased, downtrodden people in the world. i cannot believe someone's actually acting like that's no big deal. i'd like to see get the fuck off this board and try helping some people like that, instead of spewing your masturbatory rhetoric here and acting like you're doing the world a whole bunch of good by "bringing the truth" to the 50 people that actually read the pearl jam message board political forum.
Am I knocking her. Or pointing out that the word 'save' is not a proper attribution of Theresa's work? She's often celebrated as being a great person. I'm not sure that she brought medical attention to anyone. Food probably. She was also funded enormously by various governments and organizations. It would seem to me that she was a profitable organization. I could be wrong. But I'm not so inclined to have blind faith in her. Likewise Ghandi was kind of fucked-up even though he is iconic. Shit, I mean, the Vatican praised Hitler and called him the "voice of God".
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
perhaps you ought to let the police know about this...
the police in three counties in Florida (that i know of ) DO know and they can't do anything unless and until someone presses charges. she's beyond shifty and she hides out very well, she buys everything in cash, between her and her husband they don't even have so much as a checking account in either of their names. they have someone that picks up the mail for them. they don't file taxes. for God sake, the laws and rules are for other people to obey!
Am I knocking her. Or pointing out that the word 'save' is not a proper attribution of Theresa's work? She's often celebrated as being a great person. I'm not sure that she brought medical attention to anyone. Food probably. She was also funded enormously by various governments and organizations. It would seem to me that she was a profitable organization. I could be wrong. But I'm not so inclined to have blind faith in her. Likewise Ghandi was kind of fucked-up even though he is iconic. Shit, I mean, the Vatican praised Hitler and called him the "voice of God".
what the hell is blind faith?
blind faith sounds like a redundancy to me.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
Am I knocking her. Or pointing out that the word 'save' is not a proper attribution of Theresa's work? She's often celebrated as being a great person. I'm not sure that she brought medical attention to anyone. Food probably. She was also funded enormously by various governments and organizations. It would seem to me that she was a profitable organization. I could be wrong. But I'm not so inclined to have blind faith in her. Likewise Ghandi was kind of fucked-up even though he is iconic. Shit, I mean, the Vatican praised Hitler and called him the "voice of God".
mother theresa didnt profit a cent from her work. any pennies she got went directly to care for those nobody else would care for. she gave whatever medical care she could. she saved more people than you ever will with your inane ranting on this board.
mother theresa didnt profit a cent from her work. any pennies she got went directly to care for those nobody else would care for. she gave whatever medical care she could. she saved more people than you ever will with your inane ranting on this board.
She didn't save anyone.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
wow, i've never seen someone knock mother theresa before... she brought comfort to the sick and dying people that nobody else wanted to touch. she helped them die with dignity and helped some survive and get back on their feet. she worked in the worst slums in the world, period. she tried to ease the poverty of the most poor, diseased, downtrodden people in the world. i cannot believe someone's actually acting like that's no big deal. i'd like to see get the fuck off this board and try helping some people like that, instead of spewing your masturbatory rhetoric here and acting like you're doing the world a whole bunch of good by "bringing the truth" to the 50 people that actually read the pearl jam message board political forum.
Actually, Ahnimus wouldn't be the only one to critically analyze mother Teresa's work. I remember a documentary in which people who volunteered with her, or people who visited the hospitals where she worked also critized her and said the imagine the world has of mother Teresa wasn't very accurate.
Proud atheist...In the sense that I believe strongly that there is no god, but stop short of saying that there is definitely no god- given that you cannot disprove god's existence.
To me, it is all an issue of probability. Based on my life experiences I can only give god's existence a probability that is essentially (although not quite) zero.
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I was raised Faith Lutheran and I thought about this as well. To be honest I found that all of my morals came from child-rearing and children's books. One-on-one parenting imbibed me with most of them and they were corroborated by children's stories.
I was curious about that too. I found an answer in the brain.
Isn't it though??? feck, I could NOT believe someone would say that. my friend's parents have never really recovered(how could one??? ) from the loss of their daughter and people like that sure don't help much.
no, why would i need to make up with either of them?
my one sister and i have an on-going agreement that she doesn't mention her religion to me and I don't tell her that she's bat-shit crazy for believing her religion
the other one really does go into churches and befriends sick and elderly folks. she gains their trust by telling them that what a holy, God fearing, Jesus loving, good Christian woman she is. then she proceeds get them to sign over power of attorney to her so that she steal everything they own. even going so far as to expose her then 9 year old daughter to a child molester so that she could run her scam on an Uncle of ours. she's a disgusting excuse for a human being. and I do not consider myself any relation to her and neither does my brother or my other sister.
I may not be a Christian or "have a relationship with God" but i'm not a thief, i'm a not liar, I don't do anything to harm others. I can be quite kind and compassionate to others without expecting anything in return. so yeah if that makes me an ebil, ebil heathen headed to hell than so fucking be it
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OMG..that is terrible. terrible. I have always believed in being a good person and not hurting others and helping where you can. Honestly being a decent person is far better than pretending to be a saint .
right....and being a decent person isn't at all dependent on being religious or in having any kind of belief in God.
my ex-sister was so shady and out to rip people off to that a couple of years before our Mom died my brother had to move in to protect Mom from her because she lived next door. I feel so awful for my neice....she's home schooled and always has been so all that child has ever known is the insanity of her parents. :(
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perhaps you ought to let the police know about this...
-Greg Dulli
I went to catholic school, but again I'm not quite sure if a comparison between an American catholic schools and a European or Belgian ones can be made. When you're a child, you don't really question these things all that much, though I must say when I was younger my beliefs always centered around Jesus and not god, although I did believe there was a god. But I never believed Jesus walked over water, made water into wine ...
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i am nostic and don't feel the need to explain anything to anyone.
i try to hire kids to work on sunday but can't find any that are not in church. i guess it depends on where you live.
i know people like that. but when you get down to it; she is not religious; she only uses religion to steal; as one may use a gun or knife to steal. people like sister thereasa used religion to help and save thousands of people. i use a gun as a tool necessary to my career; yet others use a gun for illegal gain.
should i condemn atheists because of the behavior of ahnimus? no; that is wrong. i shouldn't condemn a people for the actions of a few.
I don't lie, cheat or steal.
Didn't Thereasa just put a bunch of dieing people in the same room. The various diseases probably combined and mutated into a super-virus that killed everyone faster. But, as far as I know, all she did was gather up dieing people and put them all in one building. She didn't 'save' anyone.
when you bring food to a starving person; or medical care to a dying person; isn't that saving them? a hospital brings many sick people into one building. a resturant brings many hungry people to one building. she brought the resturant and hospital to the people that had nothing.
wow, i've never seen someone knock mother theresa before... she brought comfort to the sick and dying people that nobody else wanted to touch. she helped them die with dignity and helped some survive and get back on their feet. she worked in the worst slums in the world, period. she tried to ease the poverty of the most poor, diseased, downtrodden people in the world. i cannot believe someone's actually acting like that's no big deal. i'd like to see get the fuck off this board and try helping some people like that, instead of spewing your masturbatory rhetoric here and acting like you're doing the world a whole bunch of good by "bringing the truth" to the 50 people that actually read the pearl jam message board political forum.
it must be the end of the world.....i agree with ss!
Am I knocking her. Or pointing out that the word 'save' is not a proper attribution of Theresa's work? She's often celebrated as being a great person. I'm not sure that she brought medical attention to anyone. Food probably. She was also funded enormously by various governments and organizations. It would seem to me that she was a profitable organization. I could be wrong. But I'm not so inclined to have blind faith in her. Likewise Ghandi was kind of fucked-up even though he is iconic. Shit, I mean, the Vatican praised Hitler and called him the "voice of God".
the police in three counties in Florida (that i know of ) DO know and they can't do anything unless and until someone presses charges. she's beyond shifty and she hides out very well, she buys everything in cash, between her and her husband they don't even have so much as a checking account in either of their names. they have someone that picks up the mail for them. they don't file taxes. for God sake, the laws and rules are for other people to obey!
I just hope that they catch up to her soon
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blind faith sounds like a redundancy to me.
blind faith is believing in something that cannot or has not been proven.
mother theresa didnt profit a cent from her work. any pennies she got went directly to care for those nobody else would care for. she gave whatever medical care she could. she saved more people than you ever will with your inane ranting on this board.
Well if you do NONE of that??? Why should we want to befriend you?
She didn't save anyone.
Actually, Ahnimus wouldn't be the only one to critically analyze mother Teresa's work. I remember a documentary in which people who volunteered with her, or people who visited the hospitals where she worked also critized her and said the imagine the world has of mother Teresa wasn't very accurate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q1m-8npkJ4
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To me, it is all an issue of probability. Based on my life experiences I can only give god's existence a probability that is essentially (although not quite) zero.
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