Who said this?

farfromglorified

Bu2 wrote:

"No one is exempt from the call to find common ground."

Wow...that's one of the most disgusting thing I've ever heard.

And what does it say to YOU?

That someone is going to tell me what to do, tell me what to give them, and tell me how to serve them, of course.

Heatherj43

In all my selfishness, I want to live in a world that is safe and kind, so yeah, I think each of us who want to live in world that is acceptable to all, we are obligated to find common ground in order to live in harmony.

farfromglorified

Heatherj43 wrote:

In all my selfishness, I want to live in a world that is safe and kind, so yeah, I think each of us who want to live in world that is acceptable to all, we are obligated to find common ground in order to live in harmony.

Hehe....ok, me too. I'm in.

Heatherj43

farfromglorified wrote:

Hehe....ok, me too. I'm in.

LOL!!! Really?? You are agreeing??? First time for me I think...lol!!!

Last Exodus

Bu2 wrote:

And what does it say to YOU?

"No one is exempt from the call to find common ground."

well if it isnt the obama campaign plant again.....its transparent dude.

Bu2

Actually, I took the quote right out of his book, "The Audacity of Hope", in a chapter where he discusses empathy. I really thought it was a cool quote. Hitler sure as hell didn't come to mind when I read it. Perhaps if I'd used it in context it might have come off a little differently.

Last Exodus, for the record: I'm not an Obama Plant here, I just like the man. If politics don't belong in AMT, then perhaps I've been misguided these past few months?

farfromglorified

http://www.theatlasphere.com/columns/070219-machan-health.php

Obama, please take your slavery elsewhere.

sponger

If BO was the CEO of XY corporation and that statement was a part of an internal memordandum, then I would say that his choice of words are justified. As employees of XY corporation, the people who read that memo are obligated to contribute to an environment of teamwork.

However, if I decide to build a log cabin in the woods, post a "tresspassers will be shot" sign on the edge of my property, and spend the whole day hating all people in general, then it is my right to do so. The "call to find common ground" will reach my answering machine and will be promptly deleted if I so choose.

Last Exodus

Bu2 wrote:

Actually, I took the quote right out of his book, "The Audacity of Hope", in a chapter where he discusses empathy. I really thought it was a cool quote. Hitler sure as hell didn't come to mind when I read it. Perhaps if I'd used it in context it might have come off a little differently.

Last Exodus, for the record: I'm not an Obama Plant here, I just like the man. If politics don't belong in AMT, then perhaps I've been misguided these past few months?

Your hammering this Obama guy into our heads so much, it makes a person wonder. You are not even open to debating his credentials, or lack thereof.

gue_barium

odd, to me, how some take this quote to such personal lengths. it's a line, a sentence. who cares who it comes from?

On that note, I'm not a big Obama fan. I think he's an intelligent, good man, but I don't have high hopes for his Presidential run. I honestly don't think it will happen.

Bu2

Last Exodus wrote:

Your hammering this Obama guy into our heads so much, it makes a person wonder. You are not even open to debating his credentials, or lack thereof.

Here’s why I want to see Barack Obama become our president. First, he was one of a very few people who was opposed to the war with Iraq before we even went there. He said in an interview back in 2002 that he would have voted against the war, and he lists as his reasons a) it would cost billions, b) we would lose thousands of our troops, c) our presence there would become resented and d) the Sunnis and Shiites could very well fall into an all-out civil war and we would be mired in it, trying to help fight with our hands tied behind our backs. In my opinion, all of that has come to pass. Here is a link to the interview:

http://www.videonewslive.com/view/40543/2002_interview_with_barack_obama

Secondly, his lack of political experience, as opposed to the other candidates’, is not a problem for me. I would prefer someone who hasn’t been swallowed up by the government machine. A “newbie”, if you will, would be more willing to compromise with people outside his party and cross the lines between Dem and Republican in order to get things done. Obama repeatedly states in his “Audacity of Hope” that he thinks politicians should compromise more, keeping their minds open when talking to someone from the other party, gleaning what they can out of the conversation and, yes, finding common ground. As for where he stands on the issues, all you have to do is read his speeches from the Senate floor and you’ll see how he feels about everything from Iraq to stem cell research. I’ve already posted the link to his US Senate website once before, but here it is again. Click on this and you can read all of his senate speeches and other statements for yourself:

http://obama.senate.gov/speech/

I’m not just jumping on the bandwagon because the guy is charismatic and looks good on TV. I don’t vote because of superficial reasons, I vote for someone who makes sense to me. I also vote for character, and I think that’s something Obama has a lot of. I’ll be honest, the war with Iraq is one of my main concerns, and the fact that he is so against it is what has me backing him more than any other candidate. Hillary, of course, is now against the war as well and is promising to end it the minute she becomes president. But I have never cared for Hillary and I would have a very hard time accepting her as my president. She seems too slick, too influenced by her Washington insiders, and too tainted by her past (Whitewater, her health care debacle, etc.). Obama is not relying on special interests to get his money and his backing for his campaign – instead he is starting an incredible grass roots campaigning effort on his new website:

http://www.barackobama.com/

I attended a “New York for Obama” meeting on Sunday night in Soho with about 45 other people and we’re planning some fundraisers and a walk-a-thon in the months ahead. The night before, there were over 200 people who gathered at a club in NYC to discuss his campaign and to show their support. Eventually, all the members from my NY chapter will be joining up with members from other groups in our state, which will bring our total up into the thousands. My group is already linked directly to Obama’s MyBarackObama.com in his website and other New York groups are starting to link up as well. People all over the nation are doing the same thing, all on their own. It’s something Obama appreciates and encourages. Meetup.com is a great website where you can find like-minded people to meet up with on just about any topic. Here’s a sampling of Obama groups that are using the website to hook up:

http://barackobama.meetup.com/

I’m glad to have joined up, and I’m glad these groups are getting hooked up directly to Obama’s website. It gives us all a voice.

If you feel strongly about a candidate, it makes sense to help raise awareness about them and help educate others about them. So that’s why I’ve been banging him over your heads lately. I apologize if it’s annoying, but I think it’s important to get the word out. Thank you for listening. I’ll be happy to debate all you’d like, if you feel it necessary. I don’t pop in here every day, but will answer you when I can. And if you'd rather I just shut up, all I can promise is to try. Peace.

Bu2

thread in the other Obama thread currently up near the top of Page 1:

Bu2 wrote:

Here’s why I want to see Barack Obama become our president. First, he was one of a very few people who was opposed to the war with Iraq before we even went there. He said in an interview back in 2002 that he would have voted against the war, and he lists as his reasons a) it would cost billions, b) we would lose thousands of our troops, c) our presence there would become resented and d) the Sunnis and Shiites could very well fall into an all-out civil war and we would be mired in it, trying to help fight with our hands tied behind our backs. In my opinion, all of that has come to pass. Here is a link to the interview:

http://www.videonewslive.com/view/40543/2002_interview_with_barack_obama

Secondly, his lack of political experience, as opposed to the other candidates’, is not a problem for me. I would prefer someone who hasn’t been swallowed up by the government machine. A “newbie”, if you will, would be more willing to compromise with people outside his party and cross the lines between Dem and Republican in order to get things done. Obama repeatedly states in his “Audacity of Hope” that he thinks politicians should compromise more, keeping their minds open when talking to someone from the other party, gleaning what they can out of the conversation and, yes, finding common ground. As for where he stands on the issues, all you have to do is read his speeches from the Senate floor and you’ll see how he feels about everything from Iraq to stem cell research. I’ve already posted the link to his US Senate website once before, but here it is again. Click on this and you can read all of his senate speeches and other statements for yourself:

http://obama.senate.gov/speech/

I’m not just jumping on the bandwagon because the guy is charismatic and looks good on TV. I don’t vote because of superficial reasons, I vote for someone who makes sense to me. I also vote for character, and I think that’s something Obama has a lot of. I’ll be honest, the war with Iraq is one of my main concerns, and the fact that he is so against it is what has me backing him more than any other candidate. Hillary, of course, is now against the war as well and is promising to end it the minute she becomes president. But I have never cared for Hillary and I would have a very hard time accepting her as my president. She seems too slick, too influenced by her Washington insiders, and too tainted by her past (Whitewater, her health care debacle, etc.). Obama is not relying on special interests to get his money and his backing for his campaign – instead he is starting an incredible grass roots campaigning effort on his new website:

http://www.barackobama.com/

I attended a “New York for Obama” meeting on Sunday night in Soho with about 45 other people and we’re planning some fundraisers and a walk-a-thon in the months ahead. The night before, there were over 200 people who gathered at a club in NYC to discuss his campaign and to show their support. Eventually, all the members from my NY chapter will be joining up with members from other groups in our state, which will bring our total up into the thousands. My group is already linked directly to Obama’s MyBarackObama.com in his website and other New York groups are starting to link up as well. People all over the nation are doing the same thing, all on their own. It’s something Obama appreciates and encourages. Meetup.com is a great website where you can find like-minded people to meet up with on just about any topic. Here’s a sampling of Obama groups that are using the website to hook up:

http://barackobama.meetup.com/

I’m glad to have joined up, and I’m glad these groups are getting hooked up directly to Obama’s website. It gives us all a voice.

If you feel strongly about a candidate, it makes sense to help raise awareness about them and help educate others about them. So that’s why I’ve been banging him over your heads lately. I apologize if it’s annoying, but I think it’s important to get the word out. Thank you for listening. I’ll be happy to debate all you’d like, if you feel it necessary. I don’t pop in here every day, but will answer you when I can. And if you'd rather I just shut up, all I can promise is to try. Peace.