I don't know about you, but I tend to think that facts are properly "handled" when used in support of the argument at hand. So, with that in mind, believing that the facts are being "handled" without actually pertaining to the debate is like appreciating the delivery of the content more than the substance. In which case, it's important to wear a suit and tie.
My mom is a big O'Reilly fan and bought the "Who's Looking Out for You" kid's book a while ago. I flipped through it and couldn't believe some of the stuff in there. He even tells the story about when he lost his virginity!
What's amazing is how differently we interpret things....
I saw that segment from start to finish and it was the 16-year old that looked (and sounded) foolish, not O'Reilly. Yes, he was there to supply the "opposing" view...he didn't do it very well.
Am I pro-O'Reilly? No, I'm pro-anyone-who-makes-sense-to-me. His argument against the show (NOT sex-education) that Colorodo school herded its students into assembly for is dead on. Whether you like it or not O'Reilly can be right.
I can deal with it.
you make that sound like a badge of honor! when it really just shows that you're easily persuaded by someone who employs the lowest forms of communication. not much to be proud of, imo.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
you make that sound like a badge of honor! when it really just shows that you're easily persuaded by someone who employs the lowest forms of communication. not much to be proud of, imo.
No. What that shows is that I'm someone who can actually be objective...even towards people that I may or may not have a favorable opinion of.
Unlike narrowmindedness and/or self-righteousness, that's a lot to be proud of.
I'm not a big fan of O'Reilly, way too self-absorbed and wayyyy too liberal for my taste, but it was clear that these kids comming on his show were given quotes from his book to divert the point at hand...he was too lenient in my view and should have called him on it...he would have if it was an adult, but probably didn't have the sack to do it to a teenager, who was obviously coached by faculty.
O'Reilly is way too liberal for your tastes? Seriously?
No. What that shows is that I'm someone who can actually be objective...even towards people that I may or may not have a favorable opinion of.
Unlike narrowmindedness and/or self-righteousness, that's a lot to be proud of.
actually, that's more like wishy-washyness. it's entirely possible to be "open-minded" and still be of the firm opinion that bill o'reilly is an asshole.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
actually, that's more like wishy-washyness. it's entirely possible to be "open-minded" and still be of the firm opinion that bill o'reilly is an asshole.
Simple points seem to elude you.
No one said he wasn't an asshole....I don't even think that's a point worth arguing.
But even assholes can be correct in their assessments. Non-assholes don't have exclusive rights to being....right.
And on that note, I'm done with the conversation because I'm not interested in arguing with you or anybody else as your opinion is all yours and you've every right to it.
And that's not wishywashy, either....that's just having better things to do.
No one said he wasn't an asshole....I don't even think that's a point worth arguing.
But even assholes can be correct in their assessments. Non-assholes don't have exclusive rights to being....right.
And on that note, I'm done with the conversation because I'm not interested in arguing with you or anybody else as your opinion is all yours and you've every right to it.
And that's not wishywashy, either....that's just having better things to do.
okeydokey.
but, then, why bother with the effort of coloring your font??
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
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My whole point in bringing this debate to light was to show you how well this 16 year old HS kid was able to debate on Fox News with Bill O'Reilly.
As I stated before, I don't freaking care what the debate was about.
I just like the way the kid handled himself, and his facts.
Saying that he handled his facts well regardless of what the debate was about is like saying he looked smart in a suit and tie.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
Why???
I don't know about you, but I tend to think that facts are properly "handled" when used in support of the argument at hand. So, with that in mind, believing that the facts are being "handled" without actually pertaining to the debate is like appreciating the delivery of the content more than the substance. In which case, it's important to wear a suit and tie.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
If it was ME that was going up against Bill O'Reilly, I'D sure as hell wear one.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
Unlike narrowmindedness and/or self-righteousness, that's a lot to be proud of.
...signed...the token black Pearl Jam fan.
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O'Reilly is way too liberal for your tastes? Seriously?
Depending on who you ask, O'Reilly is "too liberal".
The other side of the peanut gallery says he's "too conservative".
As I said...all a matter of interpretation, as we're all talking about the very same man.
...signed...the token black Pearl Jam fan.
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never has the phrase "consider the source" been more appropos.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
actually, that's more like wishy-washyness. it's entirely possible to be "open-minded" and still be of the firm opinion that bill o'reilly is an asshole.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
No one said he wasn't an asshole....I don't even think that's a point worth arguing.
But even assholes can be correct in their assessments. Non-assholes don't have exclusive rights to being....right.
And on that note, I'm done with the conversation because I'm not interested in arguing with you or anybody else as your opinion is all yours and you've every right to it.
And that's not wishywashy, either....that's just having better things to do.
...signed...the token black Pearl Jam fan.
FaceSpace
but, then, why bother with the effort of coloring your font??
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
...signed...the token black Pearl Jam fan.
FaceSpace
Watching Bill O'Reilly left me pretty blue, too.