Um.. Ron Paul actually won some delegates this morning too...

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  • eekamouse
    eekamouse Posts: 267
    ryan198 wrote:
    FYI socialism isn't intended to be a "do it for me please" society, it's intended to right the ills of society whereby the few can continue to take advantage of unearned privileges and the many get the shaft.

    True, but it's "usually" not imposed by force like communism is. It's "by choice".

    Hence, "do it for me please". :D
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    eekamouse wrote:
    At least socialism is more honest than this "faux freedom" we have now.

    Socialism convinces people they can get something for nothing.

    And it was never intended to be anything of value to the people.

    It was intended to be a subversive method of gaining more power by the elite. Let the people think the government is working in their best interest, and they will give up more freedom, and also MORE TAX DOLLARS!

    That is the real sick nature of Democratic Socialism.

    It tricks people in to no longer voting for those "selfish capitalists" whose supposed self interest violates the public interest ... and shifts that vote to the elite statists whose policies of populist appeasement are really just a sick vehicle for wealth transference.

    Given the current reality that government is utterly corrupt and not being run for the people or by the people in any stretch of the imagination ... why would anyone expect ANY of the current candidates to be anything more than statist puppets who want to further the trend? Why would they want to hand off more freedom to the government?

    Look at The Fabian Window, understand what Shaw and the Webbs intentions were. Look at them hammering out the ENTIRE WORLD. Look at the WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING! Look at the masses bowing down in praise of socialist literature! Read that page. Dig deeper.

    The people are only a tool to be USED!
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  • eekamouse
    eekamouse Posts: 267
    I'm very familiar with GB Shaw. I'm actually related to him :)

    To me it comes down to people's fear of death. They want to be molly-coddled through life, instead of really living... chips fall where they may.
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  • ryan198
    ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    i can see the need for personal conviction for self-worth...etc. where i disagree with mr. paul is the fact that he wants the chips to fall where they may now, and that disregards 250 years of disservice this country has done to women, minorities, and urban city centers. IMO that's gotta be fixed before any "hands off" happens.
  • eekamouse
    eekamouse Posts: 267
    ryan198 wrote:
    i can see the need for personal conviction for self-worth...etc. where i disagree with mr. paul is the fact that he wants the chips to fall where they may now, and that disregards 250 years of disservice this country has done to women, minorities, and urban city centers. IMO that's gotta be fixed before any "hands off" happens.

    Well ... not really.

    His main thrust is to end the overseas hemorage. Bring all troops home. Save the billions and billions from ending the war and then start to ween the younger generation off of the welfare etc...

    He's not going to remove all of the welfare programs right away. He's stated several times that he's not going to "throw the people out in the street" that have come to rely on the government for help.
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  • ryan198
    ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    if he got elected i'm pretty sure that would come to fruition ;)
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Who cares !!!

    The guy has no shot at winning

    Does it really matter ?
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  • eekamouse
    eekamouse Posts: 267
    Probabaly not. RP getting elected isn't really the issue for about 50% of his supporters. It's his stance on the issues, and I think the 50% are passionate about the issues more than the man. The guy's a terrible speaker. He has his good nights, but for the most part he's seemed really worn down and babbles alot.

    What does MATTER, is this fucking retarded ass war in Iraq, and the fact that I am FORCED to pay for it through tax dollars, as well as FORCED to pay for the Department of Education which is doing it's best to FUCK UP my two boys' education.

    Thank God, one has a fantastic math teacher and the other a great and dedicated Vice Principal that have gone out of their way to communicate with us and work with the kids.

    Guess what? That's local helping local. That's all I fucking NEED. I give a fuck about the rest of Earth and it's power structures.

    And before you go off on me about that, I give nearly 100 bux a month to help some individual children in 3rd world countries. My choice. My money. Going directly to an invidividual of... MY CHOICE!

    That does fucking matter. The government just gets in my fucking way.

    Obviously all the fucking socialist/neo-con fucks are too lazy and DONT ACTUALLY CARE about other humans enough to make a real personal effort.

    fuck them
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    eekamouse wrote:
    You wouldn't fucking know it if you watched or read CNN though...



    RP actually received more votes than Mcain in the first round of voting.

    Notice how only Ron Paul walked way with delegates, in addition to Huckabee. Mcain and Romney received zero.

    No mention of any of this in main stream media.

    However you feel about Ron Paul, this is fucking bullshit.

    Guess what.. fuck America. Fuck it. Fuck earth. ><

    This is really taking liberties with the word "won."
  • snipes824
    snipes824 Posts: 870
    floyd1975 wrote:
    This is really taking liberties with the word "won."
    the word "won" was never used. nice try, though.
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    some people actually voted for john edwards too, so bfd.
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    snipes824 wrote:
    the word "won" was never used. nice try, though.

    did you read the title of this thread?
  • eekamouse
    eekamouse Posts: 267
    snipes824 wrote:
    the word "won" was never used. nice try, though.

    Uh it was in the thread title... My bad.. semantics.. I never used the word "won" after that though =p

    Just baffling. I mean at least the media could dog pile on RP. At least mention his name one time... lol. Don't be afraid.
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  • snipes824
    snipes824 Posts: 870
    sweet adeline wrote:
    did you read the title of this thread?
    not since the first time i saw it yesterday. my bad. his quote messed me up. sorry floyd.
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    snipes824 wrote:
    not since the first time i saw it yesterday. my bad. his quote messed me up. sorry floyd.

    i accept your apology ;)
  • eekamouse
    eekamouse Posts: 267
    sweet adeline wrote:
    i accept your apology ;)

    Get that civility out of here!!! This is a Ron Paul thread.
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  • dangerboy
    dangerboy Posts: 1,569
    fragileblake wrote:
    Can I steal this line? That was fucking great.

    no charge


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