Obama: Oratory and originality

realtor1

RainDog wrote:

By "worst liberal senator" do you mean he's not very liberal? And "hundreds"? Really?

you were provided many links.. if you elect to bury your head in the sand, be my guest.. some people don't believe anything thats proven to them.. their called morons..........

realtor1

Byrnzie wrote:

This youtube clip holds no weight. It's a sloppy piece of pasted together crap. How about digging up the original Associated press article for us so we can see exactly what it said?



This is just church inspired bullshit. Next.




This is horseshit. I asked you to provide evidence that he's a Muslim. Not that there's anything wrong with being a Muslim. But all you've done is repeat your claim that he's a Muslim. Sorry, not good enough. Next:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I

At no point in this youtube clip does Obama say anything whatsoever about being a Muslim.




Wow! So the Republicans make a t.v advert during their Presidential campaign featuring some bible-thumping redneck saying that he's worried Obama will take his guns away. So what?

I can't be arsed to trawl the rest of these crappy Youtube conspiracy clips, Clergy Council articles, and pro McCain webpages. I'm bored already. Suffice it to say, you've not convinced me.



Cool. You couldn't go grab me a six-pack and some salted peanuts could ya?


Edit: None of the following links work...


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/641/
http://www.cagw.org/site/DocServer/S...pdf?docID=3023
http://www.cagw.org/site/DocServer/S...pdf?docID=3023
http://mccainindependents.blogspot.c...annenburg.html

Get off the library pc and they might work.. they all work for me..Or is it you don't want to believe anything negative. and your such a classy gal, i thought i'd give it back in layman's terms..


another one that has his head in the sand.. you read between the lines as pick out the parts you like.. its called mentally deranged..

if you don't want to believe anything from the monkeys mouth, you don't have to.. if you want more, i have hundreds but not wasting my time with you..now go read your own book on obama.. actually go read obama's books, you might believe it then..

eyedclaar

realtor1 wrote:

their called morons..........

Have to just love it. Back to school with you. Pay attention this time.

eyedclaar

realtor1 wrote:

another one that has his head in the sand.. you read between the lines as pick out the parts you like.. its called mentally deranged..

if you don't want to believe anything from the monkeys mouth, you don't have to.. if you want more, i have hundreds but not wasting my time with you..now go read your own book on obama.. actually go read obama's books, you might believe it then..

monkeys mouth?

Racist much?

All you are doing here is being wildly successful at proving what a dumbass you are, but by all means please continue. You do amuse me...

RainDog

realtor1 wrote:

you were provided many links.. if you elect to bury your head in the sand, be my guest.. some people don't believe anything thats proven to them.. their called morons..........

Well, thanks for clearing that up.

Being the worst out of hundreds of senators is pretty series.

polaris

eyedclaar wrote:

monkeys mouth?

Racist much?

All you are doing here is being wildly successful at proving what a dumbass you are, but by all means please continue. You do amuse me...

yeah ... they need to make that alert button!

realtor1

Byrnzie wrote:

Shit! It looks like Obama has upset his Muslim brothers in Al Queda:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7737710.stm

'Zawahiri. ..criticised Mr Obama - whose father is Muslim - for betraying the Islamic world.

"You were born to a Muslim father, but you chose to stand in the ranks of the enemies of the Muslims, and pray the prayer of the Jews, although you claim to be Christian, in order to climb the rungs of leadership in America," he said.

Mr Obama was not an "honourable black American" like Malcolm X, he said, but an "abeed al-beit" - a word that translates as house slave but was rendered "house negro" in the message's English subtitles...

like biden said on his pres.elect..

Joe Biden was speaking at a fundraising event Sunday in Seattle and said some pretty bizarre and spooky things. For example, he said:
'mark my words...watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision. Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keEsJVrlw6I


Meet your vp elect... enjoy


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TBNeNHHXEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZG6lf9ITvI


Meet the "high" Obama..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy3mg-syKiA

meet the socialist obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4duJUDdSd8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck&NR=1


America We're doomed...

DOSW

realtor1 wrote:

yes a terrific intelligent speaker who screwed us all into believing.. we are doomed... if everyone would have checked his own writings, quotes and his record, they would of seen the evil in this man.. he is anti-american. He will rule to benefit the islamics.. He is a muslim and finally told us in the end.. he wants our guns, he wants our beliefs to be swayed to his own beliefs. He is a socialist with communist beliefs' We are Doomed..he is 50% african muslim and 50% white.. that looks and talks presidential and lied his way through it all..

I knew it!

DOSW

eyedclaar wrote:

monkeys mouth?

Racist much?

All you are doing here is being wildly successful at proving what a dumbass you are, but by all means please continue. You do amuse me...

But... but... but... he has YouTube clips! They're infallible!

MrBrian

Byrnzie wrote:

Shit! It looks like Obama has upset his Muslim brothers in Al Queda:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7737710.stm

Mr Obama was not an "honourable black American" like Malcolm X, he said, but an "abeed al-beit" - a word that translates as house slave but was rendered "house negro" in the message's English subtitles...

This was interesting...
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Al-Zawahri said Obama's victory showed Americans acknowledged that President George W. Bush's policies were a failure and that the result was an "admission of defeat in Iraq."

But Obama's professions of support for Israel during the election campaign "confirmed to the Ummah (Islamic world) that you have chosen a stance of hostility to Islam and Muslims," al-Zawahri said.

"America has put on a new face, but its heart full of hate, mind drowning in greed, and spirit which spreads evil, murder, repression and despotism continue to be the same as always," the deputy of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden said

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081119/world/al_qaida_obama

realtor1

eyedclaar wrote:

monkeys mouth?

Racist much?

All you are doing here is being wildly successful at proving what a dumbass you are, but by all means please continue. You do amuse me...

the racist are the 95% of black people who voted obama.. now thats racism at its best..

If you think thats a racist remark.. you got the problem..i don't.. maybe i should call him The "ass"...i don't omit words because black people think its offensive.. that is your own problems.. You don't mind our kids listening to your garbage rap when they are all called bitches and ho's and honky's, do you...You don't mind putting Palin under the bus with obama's own poor grandma or sec 8 aunts and uncles now do you?
obama is filth in my book.. he's a socialist, corrupt pig.. he hasn't even proved he's a citizen yet. he hides everything All the other candidates proved theirselves with nothing to hide here. why not obama? this campaign was won on money and race.. Now we will all suffer for your own stupidities and racism.. as sharpton said yesterday.. Obama is the whitest black person he's ever seen.. Now go argue with him awhile..

McJuicy

THANK YOU FOR REINFORCING WHY INTELLECTUAL PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF VOTED FOR OBAMA

realtor1 wrote:

you providing my own answers? lol..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbsihrdn-_s&feature=related

I through this one in also.. Obama voted to allow this type of baby killing to continue.. Obama, our new president, likes killing babies..the grandpa of all grandpa's.lol Enjoy this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo


http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/radical-muslims-paid-obamas-way-through-college/

Obama is a member in a church that places devotion to race and nationality on par with devotion to Christ. His cultural exclusivity stands in direct opposition to the Evangelical concept of the transcendent universality of the Gospel. Jesus permanently nullified racial and gender barriers when he reached out to the Samaritan woman. (See John, chapter 4.) St. Paul writes in Galatians 3:28, “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” Furthermore, Obama is affiliated with a denomination that has decisively rejected the cardinal truths of the Christian faith for he is muslim and his God is Allah. This will be an enormous impediment toward his goal of unity.


a slip of the tongue obama admits muslim faith.lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I



the entire NRA was bitterly opposing obama for his gun issues to ban all guns except for police and military.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk9GwXJNM2c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf39ipCsAsQ



Compare the 2008 spending habits from obama and mccain..for junk spendings. Obama $97 million. McCain zero..
2007 obama voted worst liberal senator out of hundreds of senators. Obama spent $932 million dollars for junk spendings, called pork barrel, like spending $4.8 million tax payers money to dna bears. lol.. how in the world can he be good for the economy? and you really think you'll get a check in the mail?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/641/
http://www.cagw.org/site/DocServer/S...pdf?docID=3023

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

http://www.npr.org/blogs/news/2008/01/obama_ranked_most_liberal_sena_1.html



this is one you'll enjoy. Dig a little deeper for "change"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exxVZTKq1vA



Socialism refers to a broad set of economic theories of social organization advocating state or collective ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and the creation of an egalitarian society.[1][2] Modern socialism originated in the late nineteenth-century working class political movement. Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution, it being the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.

http://nationalclergycouncil.org/010807BarackObama.htm


check this one out.. Obama was president of the Annenberg corp. which sponsors fact check. and william "the bomber" ayers was chairman of the board.. so much for "fact check".. couldn't you tell fact check was always pro obama and lied on mccain.Always..

http://mccainindependents.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-factcheckorg-ayers-and-annenburg.html

i was wondering if you have any idea why Obama gave Acorn $800,000 this year? Couldn't be that he needed millions of fraudulent votes could it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUMgDDIFujY&feature=related


According to its web site ACORN (an acronym for Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now), is the nation’s largest community organization of low- and moderate-income families, working together for social justice and stronger communities. At first glance, this organization seems to be benign. This is not true since it uses very aggressive tactics to get its work done.
Some recent reports about their activities include the following things. They have disrupted and blocked activities within the Chicago City Council during living wage discussions. In Baltimore, MD, they burst into the scene of a private law dinner. They bussed four loads of protesters to the site of a mayor’s house, where they spewed profanities at the mayor and his family. And these are just the ones we know about. Their thuggery is over the line by far.


Of course. i always back up what i say..and i have plenty more.. Enjoy your president and be prepared for "change".. enjoy..

If you need anything else, i'm here for you..enjoy who you have elected...

RainDog

realtor1 wrote:

the racist are the 95% of black people who voted obama.. now thats racism at its best..

Was it racist when 90% of the black vote went to John Kerry?

realtor1 wrote:

If you think thats a racist remark.. you got the problem..i don't.. maybe i should call him The "ass"...i don't omit words because black people think its offensive.. that is your own problems.. You don't mind our kids listening to your garbage rap when they are all called bitches and ho's and honky's, do you...You don't mind putting Palin under the bus with obama's own poor grandma or sec 8 aunts and uncles now do you?
obama is filth in my book.. he's a socialist, corrupt pig.. he hasn't even proved he's a citizen yet. he hides everything All the other candidates proved theirselves with nothing to hide here. why not obama? this campaign was won on money and race.. Now we will all suffer for your own stupidities and racism.. as sharpton said yesterday.. Obama is the whitest black person he's ever seen.. Now go argue with him awhile..

Obama's section 8 aunts and uncles? Who were they again? And what about this citizen thing? How has he not proven it, but McCain did - exactly?

But still. Keep talking. In my humble opinion, the right needs more voices like yours.

El_Kabong

realtor1 wrote:

the racist are the 95% of black people who voted obama.. now thats racism at its best..

If you think thats a racist remark.. you got the problem..i don't.. maybe i should call him The "ass"...i don't omit words because black people think its offensive.. that is your own problems.. You don't mind our kids listening to your garbage rap when they are all called bitches and ho's and honky's, do you...You don't mind putting Palin under the bus with obama's own poor grandma or sec 8 aunts and uncles now do you?
obama is filth in my book.. he's a socialist, corrupt pig.. he hasn't even proved he's a citizen yet. he hides everything All the other candidates proved theirselves with nothing to hide here. why not obama? this campaign was won on money and race.. Now we will all suffer for your own stupidities and racism.. as sharpton said yesterday.. Obama is the whitest black person he's ever seen.. Now go argue with him awhile..

ummm...actually 'monkey's mouth' seems pretty offensive (way more than uncle tom ) monkey's mouth is pretty degrading, along w/ the section 8 comments

anyway...i don't think obama is a muslim and it wouldn't matter to me one way or the other as long as he wasn't preaching some theocracy or crazy shit, why would it matter what religion he is? maybe we should only vote for buddhists?

is it racist that until now the majority of white americans have voted for white candidates or sexist that they voted for mostly males? however, i do think many black ppl voted for him just b/c he was black and a democrat, if it were just b/c he was black alan keyes would've won in 2000. i think he's very intelligent and articulate and lots of ppl of every color give him a free pass, but this has always happened in politics

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Can anyone see the massive conflict of interest in blindly supporting the apartheid actions of state of Israel, and where that is heading?

full circle....going in circles.

Obama certainly has his work cut out for him, but he's shooting himself in both feet if he thinks he can stack his cabinet with strong Israeli interests and then then around and tell them what to do afterwards.

AIPAC...currently on trial for spying in and on the US, and Obama pledges undying and never ending support to this PAC.

It doesn't pan out as something intelligent.

Obama is on a short leash, and it's kind of disappointing that so many of his supporters have no idea what I'm even talking about, or how it applies to everything.

anotherclone

realtor1 wrote:

yes a terrific intelligent speaker who screwed us all into believing.. we are doomed... if everyone would have checked his own writings, quotes and his record, they would of seen the evil in this man.. he is anti-american. He will rule to benefit the islamics.. He is a muslim and finally told us in the end.. he wants our guns, he wants our beliefs to be swayed to his own beliefs. He is a socialist with communist beliefs' We are Doomed..he is 50% african muslim and 50% white.. that looks and talks presidential and lied his way through it all..

sweet Christ. I thought you were joking. You almost had me lol'ing because of this delicious sarcasm. Now I see you are serious.

BWAHHHHHHHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Really, people that are so worried about Barack Obama ought to go into an underground bomb shelter for the next 4 years. I mean, you should all collect your things and go to a bomb shelter together and just wring your hands and worry. And occasionally e-mail about the coming armageddon, or whatever.

dignin

realtor1 wrote:

the racist are the 95% of black people who voted obama.. now thats racism at its best..

If you think thats a racist remark.. you got the problem..i don't.. maybe i should call him The "ass"...i don't omit words because black people think its offensive.. that is your own problems.. You don't mind our kids listening to your garbage rap when they are all called bitches and ho's and honky's, do you...You don't mind putting Palin under the bus with obama's own poor grandma or sec 8 aunts and uncles now do you?
obama is filth in my book.. he's a socialist, corrupt pig.. he hasn't even proved he's a citizen yet. he hides everything All the other candidates proved theirselves with nothing to hide here. why not obama? this campaign was won on money and race.. Now we will all suffer for your own stupidities and racism.. as sharpton said yesterday.. Obama is the whitest black person he's ever seen.. Now go argue with him awhile..

Edit: you sound racist

Byrnzie

realtor1 wrote:

and your such a classy gal, i thought i'd give it back in layman's terms..

Why do you assume that I'm a 'gal'?

realtor1 wrote:

another one that has his head in the sand.. you read between the lines as pick out the parts you like.. its called mentally deranged..

It's got nothing to do with reading. You posted a bunch of Youtube clips.

realtor1 wrote:

if you don't want to believe anything from the monkeys mouth, you don't have to..

So you're calling Obama a monkey now? O.k.

Byrnzie

El_Kabong wrote:

anyway...i don't think obama is a muslim and it wouldn't matter to me one way or the other as long as he wasn't preaching some theocracy or crazy shit, why would it matter what religion he is? maybe we should only vote for buddhists?

True.
Though I wonder if it would be acceptable to him if Obama were a Grand Wizard of the Klan?

Byrnzie

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Can anyone see the massive conflict of interest in blindly supporting the apartheid actions of state of Israel, and where that is heading?

full circle....going in circles.

Obama certainly has his work cut out for him, but he's shooting himself in both feet if he thinks he can stack his cabinet with strong Israeli interests and then then around and tell them what to do afterwards.

AIPAC...currently on trial for spying in and on the US, and Obama pledges undying and never ending support to this PAC.

It doesn't pan out as something intelligent.

Obama is on a short leash, and it's kind of disappointing that so many of his supporters have no idea what I'm even talking about, or how it applies to everything.

I also think that if he hadn't toed the line to some degree re: support of Israel, he'd have never been elected. The Jewish lobby would not have permitted him to get elected. Now that he's President - or soon enough - we'll just have to wait and see what he does. Either way, I'm sure he won't be as hawkish re: Israel as McCain would have been.

Meanwhile:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7737243.stm
Wednesday, 19 November 2008

UN head fears over Gaza blockade


'UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon has told Israeli PM Ehud Olmert he is deeply concerned about humanitarian conditions in the blockaded Gaza Strip.

In a telephone call, he urged Mr Olmert to ease the delivery of aid to the territory, Mr Ban's office said.

Israel imposed the blockade on the Gaza Strip two weeks ago amid fresh violence between militants and Israeli troops.

On Tuesday, the UN's top human rights official said the restrictions deprived Palestinians of "basic human rights".

Mr Ban's office said he had expressed his "deep concern over the consequences of the deteriorating humanitarian situation in Gaza".

...Renewed fighting broke out two weeks ago when Israeli forces launched in incursion into Gaza to destroy what it says was a tunnel intended for use to abduct its soldiers.

Militant groups in Gaza responded with rocket fire...

On Tuesday, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Navi Pillay, called for "dignity and basic welfare" to be restored to the 1.5m people affected by the Gaza blockade.

Her comments came as Israeli troops entered the southern Gaza Strip, clashing with Palestinian gunmen there.

Israel described the incursion, close to the southern town of Rafah, as a "routine operation".