I think about time a lot. An article I've read about time says that it has many properties of a fluid. Time definitely seems to have a directionality--the good old arrow of time that points forward. Time is apparently linear...nothing in the laws of physics keeps it from running backward, but run backward it does not do. I wonder if time is a function of the expansion of the universe. Were the universe not expanding, would there be "time"? If the universe were contracting, would time run backward?
It is true that we live in the now, and that the now is gone faster than we can perceive it. By the time you think of the concept "now," it is gone and it is another now, ad infinitum, until you are no longer electrically around to perceive another now, at which point *you* are gone, at least from the standpoint of being an observer of time.
The many worlds theory states that all possible universes exist concurrently. Maybe our living in the constant now is a function of that...we make choices, conscious and unconscious that put is squarely in one of the endless possibilities momentarily, so that of course we live constantly in the now, our consciousnesses in ever branching, changing worlds. Memories are of the trajectory that we have chosen to get us to a particular now.
I find the concept of time endlessly fascinating. Certainly, time is one of existence's greatest mysteries.
Time doesn't exist.. it is just a map the human mind lays out to help explain a series of events.
For example, when you sleep at night, 8 hours goes by in the blink of an eye.. when we die.. billions of "years" will go by in the blink of an eye..
Want proof?.. we'll infinite went on before you were born in the blink of an eye.. Time is not a thing. Just a simplified human explanation of the order of things..
Everything is in the now.
When you die, will everything cease to exist? And if it goes on, how will you know it is and would it matter..
OK, my head is going to implode.
To me, time has to exist. There is an order and sequence to things, but in order for that to happen, things have to change. In order for change to occur. That change, imo, is time. The reason you can walk into your bedroom repeatedly, go back to the same road repeatedly, etc., is because an opportunity has been created for you to do it. Otherwise, it seems to me, you'd be arguing that the universe is replicating physical things for you endlessly--like copies of your bedroom.
Time does not cease to exist because anyone is gone. Time is still going although your father might be dead, for example, as mine is. Time doesn't stop because you have gone under general anesthesia, although from your standpoint, it has ceased to exist, as you have yourself from your perspective. (My feeling upon awakening from general anesthesia for the first time was one of "awakening from the dead." Things had happened around me and to me that I had no knowledge of.) Our perspective of time is independent of time itself, though, I think.
When you die, everything will cease to exist--to you--kind of like when you're under general. The difference being, under general, the condition of being sentient/alive can be restored. When you're dead, you are permanently cut off from consciousness. However, everything will go on just fine without you. I don't think our existence wills a universe into existence, although this may somewhat conflict with my views on the possibilities of the many worlds theory. Under that theory, there may a certain volitional component that might come into play, if you believe choices bring you to one of the worlds. I suppose the other thought might be that you make no choices, but rather are propelled through possibilities, so to speak.
I think I'll latch on to that "my head's about to implode" thought right about now.
...It is true that we live in the now, and that the now is gone faster than we can perceive it. By the time you think of the concept "now," it is gone and it is another now, ad infinitum, until you are no longer electrically around to perceive another now, at which point *you* are gone, at least from the standpoint of being an observer of time.
Key here is the word "think". Thinking is linear, and conceptualizing concepts such as time is a linear process that stems from our left neocortex. The way to be present in the now is to use whole-brained function and perception, which is outside of and beyond logic, logistics and "thinking". Doing so is considered "Be-ing"...being at-one with the universe we are.....at one with.
The minute we step into "time" with thought, we detach from reality and therefore distort it.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
...and yes, when we are one with our Presence and when we are Being, we have detached from our ego and sense of separation from the universe, and therefore we are detached of the "I", who observes. We are united with the unified field we are one with beneath our usual sense of separation and "I-ness". We go from being the drop of water, to real-izing ourselves as the ocean. Dramatic change of perception goes along with such a shift--one becomes real-istic.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Time doesn't exist.. it is just a map the human mind lays out to help explain a series of events.
For example, when you sleep at night, 8 hours goes by in the blink of an eye.. when we die.. billions of "years" will go by in the blink of an eye..
Want proof?.. we'll infinite went on before you were born in the blink of an eye.. Time is not a thing. Just a simplified human explanation of the order of things..
Everything is in the now.
When you die, will everything cease to exist? And if it goes on, how will you know it is and would it matter..
OK, my head is going to implode.
8 hours is 8 hours. Earth travels 1/3 around the sun in 8 hours. A billion years is still a billion years. Time relative to what is the question.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I wonder if time is a function of the expansion of the universe. Were the universe not expanding, would there be "time"? If the universe were contracting, would time run backward?
A very interesting idea (mentioned in a brief hstory of time perhaps??) is that our sense of time is related directly to the overall flow of entropy (disorder) in the universe (and thus indirectly to the expansion of the universe).
The second law of thermodynamics states that there can be no decrease in the amount of disorder in the universe. Some scientists have suggested that if the universe has an omega value of one (a mass sufficient to halt the expansion), the second law of thermodynamics will reverse, and with it so will the arrow of time.
I agree about time being fascinating. Give me a good scotch to sip, a beach to lie on, some stars to gaze at and an hour to ponder time and I am a happy man!
I agree about time being fascinating. Give me a good scotch to sip, a beach to lie on, some stars to gaze at and an hour to ponder time and I am a happy man!
same here, though I'm thinking a good Port Wine or maybe a warm brandy would be my choice...
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Man, I wish I had more than a minute to type before I have to leave. I have a degree in Astrophysics and would absolutely love to chime in on the implications of Quantum field theory, General Relativity, and String Theory. Maybe tomorrow.
If time doesn't exist, space doesn't exist. It's one fabric (change the dimensions of one, you alter the other).
According to String Theory and a couple of other attempts to unify physics into one cohesive set of principles, time is not either linear (move back-forward) or circular (really still linear, except the line makes a loop through a separate dimension). Instead, time may be able to move both forward and backwards, up and down, left and right...
Shit, gotta go.
"You are everything, and everything is you. Me, you... you, me -- it's all related."
I am sure that what you meant to type was that the earth rotates 1/3 in 8 hours. It takes 4 months travel 1/3 around the sun.
surely one would think...however I was talking time in relative terms of a day moth...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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It is true that we live in the now, and that the now is gone faster than we can perceive it. By the time you think of the concept "now," it is gone and it is another now, ad infinitum, until you are no longer electrically around to perceive another now, at which point *you* are gone, at least from the standpoint of being an observer of time.
The many worlds theory states that all possible universes exist concurrently. Maybe our living in the constant now is a function of that...we make choices, conscious and unconscious that put is squarely in one of the endless possibilities momentarily, so that of course we live constantly in the now, our consciousnesses in ever branching, changing worlds. Memories are of the trajectory that we have chosen to get us to a particular now.
I find the concept of time endlessly fascinating. Certainly, time is one of existence's greatest mysteries.
To me, time has to exist. There is an order and sequence to things, but in order for that to happen, things have to change. In order for change to occur. That change, imo, is time. The reason you can walk into your bedroom repeatedly, go back to the same road repeatedly, etc., is because an opportunity has been created for you to do it. Otherwise, it seems to me, you'd be arguing that the universe is replicating physical things for you endlessly--like copies of your bedroom.
Time does not cease to exist because anyone is gone. Time is still going although your father might be dead, for example, as mine is. Time doesn't stop because you have gone under general anesthesia, although from your standpoint, it has ceased to exist, as you have yourself from your perspective. (My feeling upon awakening from general anesthesia for the first time was one of "awakening from the dead." Things had happened around me and to me that I had no knowledge of.) Our perspective of time is independent of time itself, though, I think.
When you die, everything will cease to exist--to you--kind of like when you're under general. The difference being, under general, the condition of being sentient/alive can be restored. When you're dead, you are permanently cut off from consciousness. However, everything will go on just fine without you. I don't think our existence wills a universe into existence, although this may somewhat conflict with my views on the possibilities of the many worlds theory. Under that theory, there may a certain volitional component that might come into play, if you believe choices bring you to one of the worlds. I suppose the other thought might be that you make no choices, but rather are propelled through possibilities, so to speak.
I think I'll latch on to that "my head's about to implode" thought right about now.
The minute we step into "time" with thought, we detach from reality and therefore distort it.
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8 hours is 8 hours. Earth travels 1/3 around the sun in 8 hours. A billion years is still a billion years. Time relative to what is the question.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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A very interesting idea (mentioned in a brief hstory of time perhaps??) is that our sense of time is related directly to the overall flow of entropy (disorder) in the universe (and thus indirectly to the expansion of the universe).
The second law of thermodynamics states that there can be no decrease in the amount of disorder in the universe. Some scientists have suggested that if the universe has an omega value of one (a mass sufficient to halt the expansion), the second law of thermodynamics will reverse, and with it so will the arrow of time.
I agree about time being fascinating. Give me a good scotch to sip, a beach to lie on, some stars to gaze at and an hour to ponder time and I am a happy man!
same here, though I'm thinking a good Port Wine or maybe a warm brandy would be my choice...
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If time doesn't exist, space doesn't exist. It's one fabric (change the dimensions of one, you alter the other).
According to String Theory and a couple of other attempts to unify physics into one cohesive set of principles, time is not either linear (move back-forward) or circular (really still linear, except the line makes a loop through a separate dimension). Instead, time may be able to move both forward and backwards, up and down, left and right...
Shit, gotta go.
I am sure that what you meant to type was that the earth rotates 1/3 in 8 hours. It takes 4 months travel 1/3 around the sun.
surely one would think...however I was talking time in relative terms of a day moth...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!