For those people, no. But those weren't the only ones who stayed - not even close. As for the response time, you can sit on top of your mountain and judge the ignorant fools for being washed away in the deluge all you want. Perhaps you saw what you wanted to from your Noah-like vantage point, but from where I was sitting, things looked a lot different.
Clinton was president in the 1980's?
Just because you post something twice doesn't make it more credible. You sit up on your mountain in your isolation and continue to cheat on your taxes. I'll stay here and look my own personal ground zero in the eyes and decide for myself how things went - and how they're going.
FYI; I NEVER POSTED ANYTHING TWICE. THE BOARD DUPLICATED THE POST. I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT; AND; I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN MANY TIMES WITH MANY OTHER PEOPLE.
as for the rest; if you could've done better; why weren't you there?
I also said NOTHING about buildings exploding, except that i DID NOT believe that was the case. Thus i need to prove nothing about wires or such being found.
I firmly believe that the government KNEW this was going to happen, that they let\MADE it happen, that they backed the FBI off the case, that they ran war games to confuse air control, and that generally they had every motive in the world to want to do this, and did do it.
thank you for proving my point. after rereading my post; i confirmed that i clearly said I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE STAND DOWN ORDER. somehow you read it as me saying that YOU stated it.
people only see and hear what they want and dismiss what they don't want to hear or see.
thank you for proving my point. after rereading my post; i confirmed that i clearly said I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE STAND DOWN ORDER. somehow you read it as me saying that YOU stated it.
people only see and hear what they want and dismiss what they don't want to hear or see.
i think we are having a simple miscommunication.
it is true that what is capitalized is what you said and not that you said i said it ... lol ... but what confuses me is why you said that in response to, and under a quotation of me ... like your comment on the stand down order, "i've heard alot about that" ... would be in response to what i said about it ... when in fact, i never mentioned it.
in fact most of what you said in apparent response to my comment had nothing to do with my comment, which is why i was and am confused.
and again we are entering in to a non-issue debate.
and again people like Jlew have still remained silent on any of the information or quotes or citations i have provided which indicate a motive, a means, and the power to deceive.
:(
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
and again people like Jlew have still remained silent on any of the information or quotes or citations i have provided which indicate a motive, a means, and the power to deceive.
:(
use a different source besides alex jones and I might consider something you say credible.
anyone with a brain can can indicate a motive, means, and power to deceive. wait are we describing you God, Alex?
Jeez JLEW why don't you actually read anything i post?
Post 81 has 4 our more sources cited, several from a book (imagine that, i actually bought a book and am reading it!) with citations itself, one from a company website that i independently found and cited for you, and one from a internet video of a congressional hearing (that i bet you never watched) ... i bet you are referring to post 88 though ... which starts with a YAHOO\AP news source and ends with a piece of video that is linked from an Alex Jones website of audio recorded by the FAA itself.
So sue me if Alex Jones, the publicly acclaimed grand master of conspiracy theory, may just happen to have a readily available links to ... gasp ... large piles of conspiracy theory information ...
like I said. find a new source. prisonplanet is nothing but brainwashing material. and you suck it right up. its quite scary to see actually.
i cite plenty of sources all the fucking time.
you CONSISTENTLY REFUSE TO READ ANYTHING that i write, and HAVE TO DATE not responded to shit.
you still haven't, you still won't. and i think everyone here recognizes that by now.
the only thing I care to debate about with you is 9/11. all your other wacky shit is just a waste of time to me. sorry no offense, I have better things to with my time
FYI; I NEVER POSTED ANYTHING TWICE. THE BOARD DUPLICATED THE POST. I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT; AND; I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN MANY TIMES WITH MANY OTHER PEOPLE.
as for the rest; if you could've done better; why weren't you there?
The double post thing was a joke. I know it happens.
Now, 1. I never said I could've done better. I'm neither in a position of authority nor am I a trained soldier or rescue worker. 2. I wasn't there because I evacuated.
The double post thing was a joke. I know it happens.
Now, 1. I never said I could've done better. I'm neither in a position of authority nor am I a trained soldier or rescue worker. 2. I wasn't there because I evacuated.
my best friend is a congressman and i was there surveying the damage with him. because of the sewage and dead bodies (including those burried and floating up) i argued that sending in rescue workers wasn't any different than the military having people lined up to watch a nuclear test and ordering them to run towards the blast after the shock wave passed. yes; the us military did that in the 50's. N. O. was a toxic waste site at that time and i couldn't justify sending our children (guardsmen) into a hazardous site. i agree; people needed to be rescued but why was that childs life less precious then a residents?
my best friend is a congressman and i was there surveying the damage with him. because of the sewage and dead bodies (including those burried and floating up) i argued that sending in rescue workers wasn't any different than the military having people lined up to watch a nuclear test and ordering them to run towards the blast after the shock wave passed. yes; the us military did that in the 50's. N. O. was a toxic waste site at that time and i couldn't justify sending our children (guardsmen) into a hazardous site. i agree; people needed to be rescued but why was that childs life less precious then a residents?
A congressman's best friend? And now you're implying you had decision making authority regarding the Katrina recovery. Damn, dude, what haven't you been. :rolleyes:
All bullshit aside, that "child's" life isn't any less precious. But we're not talking about measuring people up in a vacuum; we're talking about lives and people whose job it is to save them. A law enforcement officer runs the risk of getting killed protecting the innocent. A firefighter runs the risk of burning to death fighting fires. A rescue worker runs risks as well. I greatly appreciate the work they do. Now if we only had better people calling the shots......
i think we are having a simple miscommunication.
it is true that what is capitalized is what you said and not that you said i said it ... lol ... but what confuses me is why you said that in response to, and under a quotation of me ... like your comment on the stand down order, "i've heard alot about that" ... would be in response to what i said about it ... when in fact, i never mentioned it.
in fact most of what you said in apparent response to my comment had nothing to do with my comment, which is why i was and am confused.
and again we are entering in to a non-issue debate.
and again people like Jlew have still remained silent on any of the information or quotes or citations i have provided which indicate a motive, a means, and the power to deceive.
:(
that was my fault for not being clearer. i just picked an easy example to show a point. i didn't mean to incinuate that you said it.
i mostly quoted your post because you are one of the more reasonable people here and i enjoy discussing things with you.
sometimes things are exactly as they appear. we've been lied to in the past and we'll be lied to in the future. this is why i understand your views. but i also wanted to point out that the originators of these conspiracy websites also have motive; means; and the power to deceive. i can doctor pictures and i can create a website in about an hour. the government may have an agenda but so do the conspiracy theorists.
that was my point. can we be friends again?
A congressman's best friend? And now you're implying you had decision making authority regarding the Katrina recovery. Damn, dude, what haven't you been. :rolleyes:
All bullshit aside, that "child's" life isn't any less precious. But we're not talking about measuring people up in a vacuum; we're talking about lives and people whose job it is to save them. A law enforcement officer runs the risk of getting killed protecting the innocent. A firefighter runs the risk of burning to death fighting fires. A rescue worker runs risks as well. I greatly appreciate the work they do. Now if we only had better people calling the shots......
i was a lowly precinct committeeman and had no authority for anything. i shouldn't have been on the chopper. but while people were rushing in to rescue people; i brought up a good point. that point brought a slight delay. it had to be considered. rescuers were given chemical suits and things continued.
i was a lowly precinct committeeman and had no authority for anything. i shouldn't have been on the chopper. but while people were rushing in to rescue people; i brought up a good point. that point brought a slight delay. it had to be considered. rescuers were given chemical suits and things continued.
Well, that's not really the kind of delay I'm talking about.
Well, that's not really the kind of delay I'm talking about.
i understand what you're saying. disasters come on fast and because humans make mistakes; things happen.
you don't want to hear this but a lot of delays in government are because people now are so critical; everything must be thought thru several times. public opinion means too much these days. any politician now a days can expect to be attacked by at least 35% of the populous no matter what decisions they make.
like I said. find a new source. prisonplanet is nothing but brainwashing material. and you suck it right up. its quite scary to see actually.
Lol and the media isn't?
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
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FYI; I NEVER POSTED ANYTHING TWICE. THE BOARD DUPLICATED THE POST. I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT; AND; I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN MANY TIMES WITH MANY OTHER PEOPLE.
as for the rest; if you could've done better; why weren't you there?
thank you for proving my point. after rereading my post; i confirmed that i clearly said I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE STAND DOWN ORDER. somehow you read it as me saying that YOU stated it.
people only see and hear what they want and dismiss what they don't want to hear or see.
it is true that what is capitalized is what you said and not that you said i said it ... lol ... but what confuses me is why you said that in response to, and under a quotation of me ... like your comment on the stand down order, "i've heard alot about that" ... would be in response to what i said about it ... when in fact, i never mentioned it.
in fact most of what you said in apparent response to my comment had nothing to do with my comment, which is why i was and am confused.
and again we are entering in to a non-issue debate.
and again people like Jlew have still remained silent on any of the information or quotes or citations i have provided which indicate a motive, a means, and the power to deceive.
:(
If I opened it now would you not understand?
see, saying things like this really discredit people actually asking the questions about the events that day
use a different source besides alex jones and I might consider something you say credible.
anyone with a brain can can indicate a motive, means, and power to deceive. wait are we describing you God, Alex?
another source.
the only thing I care to debate about with you is 9/11. all your other wacky shit is just a waste of time to me. sorry no offense, I have better things to with my time
Now, 1. I never said I could've done better. I'm neither in a position of authority nor am I a trained soldier or rescue worker. 2. I wasn't there because I evacuated.
my best friend is a congressman and i was there surveying the damage with him. because of the sewage and dead bodies (including those burried and floating up) i argued that sending in rescue workers wasn't any different than the military having people lined up to watch a nuclear test and ordering them to run towards the blast after the shock wave passed. yes; the us military did that in the 50's. N. O. was a toxic waste site at that time and i couldn't justify sending our children (guardsmen) into a hazardous site. i agree; people needed to be rescued but why was that childs life less precious then a residents?
All bullshit aside, that "child's" life isn't any less precious. But we're not talking about measuring people up in a vacuum; we're talking about lives and people whose job it is to save them. A law enforcement officer runs the risk of getting killed protecting the innocent. A firefighter runs the risk of burning to death fighting fires. A rescue worker runs risks as well. I greatly appreciate the work they do. Now if we only had better people calling the shots......
that was my fault for not being clearer. i just picked an easy example to show a point. i didn't mean to incinuate that you said it.
i mostly quoted your post because you are one of the more reasonable people here and i enjoy discussing things with you.
sometimes things are exactly as they appear. we've been lied to in the past and we'll be lied to in the future. this is why i understand your views. but i also wanted to point out that the originators of these conspiracy websites also have motive; means; and the power to deceive. i can doctor pictures and i can create a website in about an hour. the government may have an agenda but so do the conspiracy theorists.
that was my point. can we be friends again?
i was a lowly precinct committeeman and had no authority for anything. i shouldn't have been on the chopper. but while people were rushing in to rescue people; i brought up a good point. that point brought a slight delay. it had to be considered. rescuers were given chemical suits and things continued.
i understand what you're saying. disasters come on fast and because humans make mistakes; things happen.
you don't want to hear this but a lot of delays in government are because people now are so critical; everything must be thought thru several times. public opinion means too much these days. any politician now a days can expect to be attacked by at least 35% of the populous no matter what decisions they make.
Drop the zero, get with the hero...
Word to your mutha!
Lol and the media isn't?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.