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You make the choice...a woman does...when she has the sex that gets her pregnant. All right? That was her choice. Killing a defenseless baby is not all right. It shouldn't be a choice. It's a separate human life. Rape victims? Why not put the child up for adoption? I know it's not the woman's fault it happens and it's a horrendous thing to occur, but that baby is as much a victim as the woman.
And by the way, I don't think war is okay. I'm anti-war. I'm anti anything that harms human life.
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You make the choice...a woman does...when she has the sex that gets her pregnant. All right? That was her choice. Killing a defenseless baby is not all right. It shouldn't be a choice. It's a separate human life. Rape victims? Why not put the child up for adoption? I know it's not the woman's fault it happens and it's a horrendous thing to occur, but that baby is as much a victim as the woman.
And by the way, I don't think war is okay. I'm anti-war. I'm anti anything that harms human life.
I think abortion is a personal choice, and you could decide if you were ever in the situation.
If a woman is raped, you REALLY think she should have to live with not only the emotional consequences, but the physical consequences of being pregnant? wow...
And I love how the right paints the left as baby killers. We don't like abortion either, but IMO, it should be an option.
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What ever happen to contraceptives? I know there are accidences, but wrap that shit up, take the pill, be responsible. It might not be such a hot button issue if people think about the choices they make before all of this happens.
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How about that. A fucking SOLUTION to the problem!!!
Don't get Pregnant... no need for Abortion!
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Why don't the Anti-abortion folks get behind this?
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Why don't the Anti-abortion folks get behind this?
Yeah, why don't the anti-abortion people do something to HELP the kids that are here now that no one wants? Throw the fucking sign in the trash and go be a Big Brother or Big Sister to a child in need.
Why don't anti-abortion people realize that making abortion illegal will not stop women from having them?
Oh yeah, bomb the abortion clinic and kill people while doing it. There's irony.
Why should any MAN have any right to comment on abortion? Grow a uterus and then talk to me about it.
BTW, I had an abortion at 16 and was harassed by pro life people in my community. I have never regretted my choice for one second.
I have also given birth to two beautiful kids. Anyone who thinks it is easy for a women to just have a baby conceived by rape has obviously never experienced pregnancy and child birth.
Yeah, why don't the anti-abortion people do something to HELP the kids that are here now that no one wants? Throw the fucking sign in the trash and go be a Big Brother or Big Sister to a child in need.
Why don't anti-abortion people realize that making abortion illegal will not stop women from having them?
Oh yeah, bomb the abortion clinic and kill people while doing it. There's irony.
Why should any MAN have any right to comment on abortion? Grow a uterus and then talk to me about it.
BTW, I had an abortion at 16 and was harassed by pro life people in my community. I have never regretted my choice for one second.
I have also given birth to two beautiful kids. Anyone who thinks it is easy for a women to just have a baby conceived by rape has obviously never experienced pregnancy and child birth.
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Well... I have always felt that if the Anti-Abortion Crew spent their time, effort, money (and over abundance of fanaticism) towards EDUCATION on BIRTH CONTROL practices... they can solve their own problem by THEMSELVES.
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The arguement I mostly hear is that they don't want Sex Education in school... it should be the parent's job.
Well, if it doesn't work in an upper middle class white Christian home like the Palin's... how is it going to work else where?
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The LAMEST arguement is... passing out condoms will make the kids want fuck. Guess what, morons? KIDS WANT TO FUCK... whether you give them a condom or not.
When i was in the 8th Grade... me and my friends got a hold of a box of my friend's dad's condoms. We all got one... and kept it for when we were going to finally bang a girl.
Well... i had that fucking condom for about 3 years. I did a lot of fucking in that time... unfortunately, no one else was involved.
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And do you know what Abstinence Only leads to?.. more blow jobs and butt fucking. Because blow jobs and butt fucking isn't 'technically' fucking... to a teenage sense of rationalization... it's just 'Messing around... you know... like kissing and stuff'.
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Finally... have you ever noticed that the ones most likely to argue about not having sex... are people who are too ugly to fuck? Even on a tequila bender... on New Year's Eve.
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Hail, Hail!!!
You make the choice...a woman does...when she has the sex that gets her pregnant. All right? That was her choice. Killing a defenseless baby is not all right. It shouldn't be a choice. It's a separate human life. Rape victims? Why not put the child up for adoption? I know it's not the woman's fault it happens and it's a horrendous thing to occur, but that baby is as much a victim as the woman.
And by the way, I don't think war is okay. I'm anti-war. I'm anti anything that harms human life.
when someone actually kills a defenseless BABY, i 100% agree with you. an embryo is NOT a baby. period. it cannot think or feel. it IS a seperate human life, and honestly...so what? there are soooo many unique living creatures on this earth, we all are unique...so reallky, not so special. i am anti-cruelty. killing an embryo that has zero sensory reception is not cruel. not to me. i don't consider it a raltionalization, i consider it a fact. may be different in your eyes, so be it.
and the whole you have sex deal with the consequences.....having an abortion IS dealing with the consequences. perhaps not in a way YOU agree with, but it still is an option and an effective method of 'dealing with it' and being responsible.
i am 100% FOR education and access to ALL birth control options and most importanly, removal of social - particularly religious - stigmas associated with such. there is the REAL way to lessen and/or obliterate abortions.
btw - hate to state the obvious....but most people want to adopt healthy, white babies. if your baby doesn't fit that criteria, may not be much 'market' for your child. then what? a ward of the state? sure, it's a choice. so is keeping the child...so is abortion. i believe in the RIGHT for any woman to make the choice right for her.
Yeah, why don't the anti-abortion people do something to HELP the kids that are here now that no one wants? Throw the fucking sign in the trash and go be a Big Brother or Big Sister to a child in need.
Why don't anti-abortion people realize that making abortion illegal will not stop women from having them?
Oh yeah, bomb the abortion clinic and kill people while doing it. There's irony.
Why should any MAN have any right to comment on abortion? Grow a uterus and then talk to me about it.
BTW, I had an abortion at 16 and was harassed by pro life people in my community. I have never regretted my choice for one second.
I have also given birth to two beautiful kids. Anyone who thinks it is easy for a women to just have a baby conceived by rape has obviously never experienced pregnancy and child birth.
THANK YOU. I really think that if everyone who claimed to be "pro-life" would actually get out there and do something to help a kid stuck in the foster system, adopted a kid, became a child sponsor or tutor, or volunteered at a women and children's shelter or something, they would actually be practicing what they preached.
And I agree - whenever I hear any man saying "even if the woman is raped, she should still have the baby"...yeah, easy for you to say. You'll never have to worry about getting raped or becoming pregnant.
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Abortion is a serious problem in this country. It is very barbaric when a fetus is viable and can live outside the womb. I am in favor of limiting abortions post viability to instances in rape, incest or for the mother's life. Beyond that, they should be illegal post viability.
Pre viability, I don't know. I would prefer women who do not want children just not get pregnant. That would deal with the problem. Even if Roe V. Wade was overturned, it would still be a problem...some states would permit it and some would not.
The answer lies in education. I think birth control is readily available to anyone who wants it. The key is educating people to use it. We need to quit bickering about whether abortion should be legal or illegal, and get to the root of the problem.....avoiding unwanted pregnancies.
In addition, we need to work on our system to place infants in a good adoptive home. That way, women can be encouraged to carry a baby to term and place the baby for adoption.
it is a deep, serious problem. Post viable fetus abortion are barbaric and unthinkably cruel. Pre viability is a little more grey....I tend to think it is grey enough that women should be able to chose. but again, education is the key.
You make the choice...a woman does...when she has the sex that gets her pregnant. All right? That was her choice. Killing a defenseless baby is not all right. It shouldn't be a choice. It's a separate human life. Rape victims? Why not put the child up for adoption? I know it's not the woman's fault it happens and it's a horrendous thing to occur, but that baby is as much a victim as the woman.
And by the way, I don't think war is okay. I'm anti-war. I'm anti anything that harms human life.
Hmmm.... I was under the impression that this particular abortion thread was more about later term abortions which, although rare, usually involve a WANTED pregnancy where something went medically wrong. So where does your "she made the choice when she had sex" argument fit in to situations where the women actually did choose to get pregnant?
Abortions should be available for women if carrying the pregnancy to term may threaten the woman's life then... yes?
Abortions should be available to all victims of rape as god knows forcing a rape victim to carry a baby that was the result of a RAPE inside her body for 40 weeks would clearly harm human life.
Rape baby in my belly? If abortion wasn't an option I'd do my best to get rid of it somehow... and if I didn't ... I'd continue until I died trying..or just kill myslef.
There would be no healing from the rape if you were involved in a parasitic relationship with the result of the rape and feeling it and reliving it every day.
So...really while you try to come across as some hardcore off the wall pro-life whack job... you are really preaching something else...
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You make the choice...a woman does...when she has the sex that gets her pregnant. All right? That was her choice. Killing a defenseless baby is not all right. It shouldn't be a choice. It's a separate human life. Rape victims? Why not put the child up for adoption? I know it's not the woman's fault it happens and it's a horrendous thing to occur, but that baby is as much a victim as the woman.
And by the way, I don't think war is okay. I'm anti-war. I'm anti anything that harms human life.
If a woman is raped, you REALLY think she should have to live with not only the emotional consequences, but the physical consequences of being pregnant? wow...
And I love how the right paints the left as baby killers. We don't like abortion either, but IMO, it should be an option.
How about that. A fucking SOLUTION to the problem!!!
Don't get Pregnant... no need for Abortion!
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Why don't the Anti-abortion folks get behind this?
Hail, Hail!!!
Yeah, why don't the anti-abortion people do something to HELP the kids that are here now that no one wants? Throw the fucking sign in the trash and go be a Big Brother or Big Sister to a child in need.
Why don't anti-abortion people realize that making abortion illegal will not stop women from having them?
Oh yeah, bomb the abortion clinic and kill people while doing it. There's irony.
Why should any MAN have any right to comment on abortion? Grow a uterus and then talk to me about it.
BTW, I had an abortion at 16 and was harassed by pro life people in my community. I have never regretted my choice for one second.
I have also given birth to two beautiful kids. Anyone who thinks it is easy for a women to just have a baby conceived by rape has obviously never experienced pregnancy and child birth.
Well... I have always felt that if the Anti-Abortion Crew spent their time, effort, money (and over abundance of fanaticism) towards EDUCATION on BIRTH CONTROL practices... they can solve their own problem by THEMSELVES.
...
The arguement I mostly hear is that they don't want Sex Education in school... it should be the parent's job.
Well, if it doesn't work in an upper middle class white Christian home like the Palin's... how is it going to work else where?
...
The LAMEST arguement is... passing out condoms will make the kids want fuck. Guess what, morons? KIDS WANT TO FUCK... whether you give them a condom or not.
When i was in the 8th Grade... me and my friends got a hold of a box of my friend's dad's condoms. We all got one... and kept it for when we were going to finally bang a girl.
Well... i had that fucking condom for about 3 years. I did a lot of fucking in that time... unfortunately, no one else was involved.
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And do you know what Abstinence Only leads to?.. more blow jobs and butt fucking. Because blow jobs and butt fucking isn't 'technically' fucking... to a teenage sense of rationalization... it's just 'Messing around... you know... like kissing and stuff'.
...
Finally... have you ever noticed that the ones most likely to argue about not having sex... are people who are too ugly to fuck? Even on a tequila bender... on New Year's Eve.
Hail, Hail!!!
when someone actually kills a defenseless BABY, i 100% agree with you. an embryo is NOT a baby. period. it cannot think or feel. it IS a seperate human life, and honestly...so what? there are soooo many unique living creatures on this earth, we all are unique...so reallky, not so special. i am anti-cruelty. killing an embryo that has zero sensory reception is not cruel. not to me. i don't consider it a raltionalization, i consider it a fact. may be different in your eyes, so be it.
and the whole you have sex deal with the consequences.....having an abortion IS dealing with the consequences. perhaps not in a way YOU agree with, but it still is an option and an effective method of 'dealing with it' and being responsible.
i am 100% FOR education and access to ALL birth control options and most importanly, removal of social - particularly religious - stigmas associated with such. there is the REAL way to lessen and/or obliterate abortions.
btw - hate to state the obvious....but most people want to adopt healthy, white babies. if your baby doesn't fit that criteria, may not be much 'market' for your child. then what? a ward of the state? sure, it's a choice. so is keeping the child...so is abortion. i believe in the RIGHT for any woman to make the choice right for her.
Let's just breathe...
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THANK YOU. I really think that if everyone who claimed to be "pro-life" would actually get out there and do something to help a kid stuck in the foster system, adopted a kid, became a child sponsor or tutor, or volunteered at a women and children's shelter or something, they would actually be practicing what they preached.
And I agree - whenever I hear any man saying "even if the woman is raped, she should still have the baby"...yeah, easy for you to say. You'll never have to worry about getting raped or becoming pregnant.
Pre viability, I don't know. I would prefer women who do not want children just not get pregnant. That would deal with the problem. Even if Roe V. Wade was overturned, it would still be a problem...some states would permit it and some would not.
The answer lies in education. I think birth control is readily available to anyone who wants it. The key is educating people to use it. We need to quit bickering about whether abortion should be legal or illegal, and get to the root of the problem.....avoiding unwanted pregnancies.
In addition, we need to work on our system to place infants in a good adoptive home. That way, women can be encouraged to carry a baby to term and place the baby for adoption.
it is a deep, serious problem. Post viable fetus abortion are barbaric and unthinkably cruel. Pre viability is a little more grey....I tend to think it is grey enough that women should be able to chose. but again, education is the key.
Hmmm.... I was under the impression that this particular abortion thread was more about later term abortions which, although rare, usually involve a WANTED pregnancy where something went medically wrong. So where does your "she made the choice when she had sex" argument fit in to situations where the women actually did choose to get pregnant?
So... I read the above like this...
According to you...
Abortions should be available for women if carrying the pregnancy to term may threaten the woman's life then... yes?
Abortions should be available to all victims of rape as god knows forcing a rape victim to carry a baby that was the result of a RAPE inside her body for 40 weeks would clearly harm human life.
Rape baby in my belly? If abortion wasn't an option I'd do my best to get rid of it somehow... and if I didn't ... I'd continue until I died trying..or just kill myslef.
There would be no healing from the rape if you were involved in a parasitic relationship with the result of the rape and feeling it and reliving it every day.
So...really while you try to come across as some hardcore off the wall pro-life whack job... you are really preaching something else...
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