Power: Gore Mansion Uses 20x Average Household

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edited February 2007 in A Moving Train
POWER: GORE MANSION USES 20X AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD; CONSUMPTION INCREASE AFTER 'TRUTH'
Mon Feb 26 2007 17:16:14 ET

Nashville Electric Service/Gore House

2006

High 22619 kWh Aug – Sept
Low 12541 kWh Jan - Feb
Average: 18,414 kWh per month

2005

High 20532 Sept - October
Low 12955 Feb - March
Average: 16,200 kWh per month

Bill amounts

2006 – $895.60 (low) $1738.52 (high) $1359 (average)
2005 – $853.91 (low) $1461 (high)

Nashville Gas Company

Main House
2006 – $990(high) $170 (low) $536 (average)
2005 – $1080 (high) $200 (low) $640 (average)

Guest House/Pool House

2006 – $820 (high) $70 (low) $544 (average)
2005 – $1025 (high) $25 (low) $525 (average)

The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization, issued a press release late Monday:

Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.

Gore’s mansion, [20-room, eight-bathroom] located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.

Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.
"Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
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  • :rolleyes:

    There's nothing inconvenient about a 20 room mansion, is there Al?
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,297
    Yeah, he should probably be living in a shack with solar panels, growing his own food, distilling rain water, and riding his bike to speeches....What a dick!
  • mca47 wrote:
    Yeah, he should probably be living in a shack with solar panels, growing his own food, distilling rain water, and riding his bike to speeches....What a dick!


    Ahh... So he is an actor.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • MakingWavesMakingWaves Posts: 1,293
    I also saw this morning where they get their power from an energy source that uses renewable resources or something like that and they also said they are in the process of updating the home and adding solar panels. I don't like Al Gore that much as a politician but it sounds like he is trying. I think you have to look at this for what it is, more political crap that happens by the other side (by both republicans and democrats) when ever someone is in the news for something positive.
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  • I also saw this morning where they get their power from an energy source that uses renewable resources or something like that and they also said they are in the process of updating the home and adding solar panels. I don't like Al Gore that much as a politician but it sounds like he is trying. I think you have to look at this for what it is, more political crap that happens by the other side (by both republicans and democrats) when ever someone is in the news for something positive.

    Hypocrisy is certainly not unique to liberals. However, hypocrisy is hypocrisy and on this scale, it's simply absurd.

    Tennessee's power comes from mostly fossil fuels (non-renewable) and hydroelectrics (renewable). Furthermore, the home is also using direct natural gas (nonrenewable) at an astounding rate.

    Gore is at best a fool, and at worst a fraud.
  • MakingWavesMakingWaves Posts: 1,293
    Hypocrisy is certainly not unique to liberals. However, hypocrisy is hypocrisy and on this scale, it's simply absurd.

    Tennessee's power comes from mostly fossil fuels (non-renewable) and hydroelectrics (renewable). Furthermore, the home is also using direct natural gas (nonrenewable) at an astounding rate.

    Gore is at best a fool, and at worst a fraud.

    I see what you are saying but you shouldn't be surprised..he is a politician. It just sounded like to me like he was trying to change which is good.
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  • I see what you are saying but you shouldn't be surprised..he is a politician. It just sounded like to me like he was trying to change which is good.

    Where do you see change? In his words? Or in his actions? Because if this article is correct, Gore's usage of non-renewable entergy is increasing right along with his rhetoric about global warming.
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,254908,00.html


    Al Gore responded to charges that his house consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, with the new Oscar winner saying he has taken many steps to reduce the carbon footprint in his home.

    The former vice president and former presidential candidate told Thinkprogress.org that he has signed up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installed solar panels and uses compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy-saving technology. He said he also buys carbon offsets — a service that tries to reduce the net carbon emissions of individuals or organizations indirectly, through proxies that reduce their emissions and/or increase their absorption of greenhouse gases.

    "What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible," said Thinkprogress.org. "Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gores do, to bring their footprint down to zero."

    A carbon footprint is a measure of the impact human activities have on the environment in terms of the amount of greenhouse gases produced. It is measured in units of carbon dioxide.

    Gore was responding to a report issued by the Tennessee Center for Policy Research, which, citing figures from the Nashville Electric Service, said that since last August, Gore burned through 22,619 kilowatt-hours at his house — more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. His average monthly electric bill topped $1,359, the report said.

    Click here to read the research center's press release on the report.

    The report also cited the release of his global-warming documentary for which he won an Oscar over the weekend, "An Inconvenient Truth." In this film — which has won fountains of praise from many circles, including many in Hollywood — Gore calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

    Since the release of "An Inconvenient Truth," the report said, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006. Natural gas bills for Gore's mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year, the research center said.

    "As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk the walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use," Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson said in a statement.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
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  • Sorry Al, purchasing your power through "Green Power Switch" doesn't accomplish anything. It simply offloads the exact same usage onto someone else. And you might want to check the output of those solar panels if you're still consuming 221,000 kWh from the grid.

    How can Gore tell American families to "reduce their carbon emissions as much as possible" while he hasn't done that himself? Are you telling me that Al Gore simply cannot consume less than 221,000 kWh of energy? Simply handing money over to green groups doesn't absolve yourself of the original actions.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    You wanna see a true environmentalist, watch "Living with Ed", Ed Begely's reality show. If Al lived they way he does then he would have my respect, but all these years of preaching about the environment and now he's trying to reduce the carbon footprint of his mansion? Walk the walk first Al, then talk the talk.
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    Sorry Al, purchasing your power through "Green Power Switch" doesn't accomplish anything. It simply offloads the exact same usage onto someone else. And you might want to check the output of those solar panels if you're still consuming 221,000 kWh from the grid.

    How can Gore tell American families to "reduce their carbon emissions as much as possible" while he hasn't done that himself? Are you telling me that Al Gore simply cannot consume less than 221,000 kWh of energy? Simply handing money over to green groups doesn't absolve yourself of the original actions.

    Uh, I'm not telling you anything. I had just read that particular article (one of many this morning on various subjects) before I came here and saw this thread and thought it was pertinent. Honestly, I'm not real versed in the subject of "Green Power". Although I do use 'green' products in my home.

    Is there anyway around gratuitous energy consumption when you own such a large house, really?
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • baraka wrote:
    Uh, I'm not telling you anything. I had just read that particular article (one of many this morning on various subjects) before I came here and saw this thread and thought it was pertinent. Honestly, I'm not real versed in the subject of "Green Power". Although I do use 'green' products in my home.

    Is there anyway around gratuitous energy consumption when you own such a large house, really?

    Owning such a large house is a matter of choice; not a burden he's forced to accept. Parts of his documentary were filmed while guzzling fuel at an obscene rate in his private jetliner. Other parts while touring the nation in gas guzzling SUVs and limos. What we have here is a failure to communicate. Except here, he's having trouble understanding his own rhetoric.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    hmmm...the old "if you support it, you must do it" argument...

    funny, when I use this argument in discussions about the war and telling others if they support it they should sign up, for some reason it doesn't fly....

    as for Al, I would think those who support big business and big oil would be happy that Al is using these resources...

    I just think many are blinded by hatred when it comes to Al...
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Owning such a large house is a matter of choice; not a burden he's forced to accept. Parts of his documentary were filmed while guzzling fuel at an obscene rate in his private jetliner. Other parts while touring the nation in gas guzzling SUVs and limos. What we have here is a failure to communicate. Except here, he's having trouble understanding his own rhetoric.
    Beautiful........"failure to communicate"....great use of a line. It's this double standard that seemingly haunts Al in his quest for power......figurative and literal.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    Owning such a large house is a matter of choice; not a burden he's forced to accept. Parts of his documentary were filmed while guzzling fuel at an obscene rate in his private jetliner. Other parts while touring the nation in gas guzzling SUVs and limos. What we have here is a failure to communicate. Except here, he's having trouble understanding his own rhetoric.


    Oh, I'm not disputing that. But my question is: Is there any way for a wealthy rockstar or politician or actor or anyone to be 'green' while owning a large home? For example, what should have he done to avoid fuel consumption during his travels?
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • baraka wrote:
    Uh, I'm not telling you anything. I had just read that particular article (one of many this morning on various subjects) before I came here and saw this thread and thought it was pertinent. Honestly, I'm not real versed in the subject of "Green Power". Although I do use 'green' products in my home.

    Hehe...I didn't mean you, baraka, I meant you, Al Gore. I'm glad you posted his response.
    Is there anyway around gratuitous energy consumption when you own such a large house, really?

    Not really, though there would be many ways around gratuitous emissions. Nuclear power, wind farms on the large land that probably comes with that large house, real solar infrastructure throughout the property instead of window dressing panels.

    It just bugs me that Al Gore is going to cop out here and talk about "Green Power Switch". All that is is a subsidy you pay to help the TVA deploy renewable sources. And while contributing to that is great, it doesn't offset 221,000 kwh of usage. If only 400 households did exactly what Al Gore was doing, they would consume the total output of the "Green Power Switch" off the grid.
  • inmytree wrote:
    hmmm...the old "if you support it, you must do it" argument...

    funny, when I use this argument in discussions about the war and telling others if they support it they should sign up, for some reason it doesn't fly....

    as for Al, I would think those who support big business and big oil would be happy that Al is using these resources...

    I just think many are blinded by hatred when it comes to Al...


    Al Gore is a hypocrite because he doesn't practice what he preaches. People who support the war aren't hypocrites because they aren't serving. Actually, in the context you're trying to convey, Bush is the only person who should be serving if he believes in his war so much. You should try a bit harder before posting next time. As a matter of fact, I have no problem with Al using as the oil he can. It's his house. It's his power.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    We use what we have now while making changes for the future. It's not that hard to comprehend, guys. I'm no huge Gore fan (though I don't really have a problem with him), but he is turning his mansion "green."

    No one expects us all to live in caves. No one really wants us to go without. The call is for different technology, not an appeal for an ascetic lifestyle.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Al Gore is a hypocrite because he doesn't practice what he preaches. People who support the war aren't hypocrites because they aren't serving. Actually, in the context you're trying to convey, Bush is the only person who should be serving if he believes in his war so much. You should try a bit harder before posting next time. As a matter of fact, I have no problem with Al using as the oil he can. It's his house. It's his power.


    ha ha ha....lame...


    tell us, mrs. green-living expert, what should Al be doing....?

    anyway, perhaps you should practice what you preach...on one hand you bitch about how gore is living, then go on to say "I have no problem with Al using as the oil he can. It's his house. It's his power."...


    hypocrite...
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Al Gore is a hypocrite because he doesn't practice what he preaches. People who support the war aren't hypocrites because they aren't serving.
    No, it's pretty much the same. Practice what you preach, dude.
  • RainDog wrote:
    The call is for different technology, not an appeal for an ascetic lifestyle.

    You don't "call" for different technology. You invent different technology and you use different technology. What you do call for is fear, or power. And that's why I don't trust Al Gore any farther than I can throw him using the renewable energy in my own body.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    You don't "call" for different technology. You invent different technology and you use different technology. What you do call for is fear, or power. And that's why I don't trust Al Gore any farther than I can throw him using the renewable energy in my own body.


    how about "calling for the invention of different technology"...?
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    You don't "call" for different technology. You invent different technology and you use different technology. What you do call for is fear, or power. And that's why I don't trust Al Gore any farther than I can throw him using the renewable energy in my own body.
    If you don't have the technical know how, you ask those who do. A "call."
  • RainDog wrote:
    If you don't have the technical know how, you ask those who do. A "call."

    Hehe...I don't hear Al Gore telling anyone what they should do. I hear Al Gore telling people what they shouldn't do.

    Those with the technical "know how" don't need Al Gore or his blathering. They're already hard at work:

    http://world.honda.com/FuelCell/

    http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/adv_tech/index.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/science/27fusion.html?ref=science
  • inmytree wrote:
    ha ha ha....lame...


    tell us, mrs. green-living expert, what should Al be doing....?

    anyway, perhaps you should practice what you preach...on one hand you bitch about how gore is living, then go on to say "I have no problem with Al using as the oil he can. It's his house. It's his power."...


    hypocrite...

    My God Corky. Re-read the post. Process it. Then understand why I have no problem with the way he's currently living and have every problem with his rhetoric.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • RainDog wrote:
    No, it's pretty much the same. Practice what you preach, dude.

    So if I sign up later today, I'm still right about Al Gore?

    See that lightbulb beside my post? It's incandescent.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • How can Gore tell American families to "reduce their carbon emissions as much as possible" while he hasn't done that himself? Are you telling me that Al Gore simply cannot consume less than 221,000 kWh of energy? Simply handing money over to green groups doesn't absolve yourself of the original actions.

    simple really, because even he doesn't believe all the BS he is shoveling. there are alot of eco nuts looking for a leader, people who choose environmentalism as their religion. and he was looking for someone to lead. a match made in heaven, don't you think?
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    My God Corky. Re-read the post. Process it. Then understand why I have no problem with the way he's currently living and have every problem with his rhetoric.


    ha ha ha...

    hypocrite....
  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    The spin/smear campaign is on. As soon as Al gets some momentum going, BAM ! The right comes out with both barrels blazing. Is it true? Probably.

    I am guessing he is also doing things to make up for it along the way. Just as Pearl Jam uses jets,buses,vans, and mega watts of electricity, they also do things to neutralize their consumption. I am guessing Gore uses some sort of "Carbon Portfolio Strategy" as well.

    Let's give him a chance to respond. I don't think it is surprising to him that having many large energy consuming homes is somewhat hypocritical to his crusade. I am sure he is prepared for this day.
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  • baraka wrote:
    Oh, I'm not disputing that. But my question is: Is there any way for a wealthy rockstar or politician or actor or anyone to be 'green' while owning a large home? For example, what should have he done to avoid fuel consumption during his travels?

    I was told in a prior thread that Al Gore was the leading voice in climatology because he had listened to several lectures by one of the leading climatologist in the world.

    That being the case, I'm almost certain he should know what he needs to do to satisfy his own 'green' requirements.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
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