war

deadnote
deadnote Posts: 1,678
edited June 2007 in A Moving Train
is a god damned disgrace , you should be ashamed of being a part of it, im out!
set your laughter free

dreamer in my dream

we got the guns

i love you,but im..............callin out.........callin out
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    And suddenly there was war we didn't remember it
    A long time forgotten there suddenly was war
    And suddenly there was war our children are dead
    Burnt in the ruins that were left by war

    War

    And suddenly there was war and the mothers they screamed
    For revenge and reprisals for another war
    And suddenly and suddenly
    And suddenly there was war with spoiling and death
    And you fight alone if there's another war

    Whole Life Is War and whole life is pain
    And you will fight alone in your personal war

    War

    This is war

    War

    Wumpscut - War
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  • deadnote
    deadnote Posts: 1,678
    sick
    set your laughter free

    dreamer in my dream

    we got the guns

    i love you,but im..............callin out.........callin out
  • mdigenakis
    mdigenakis Posts: 1,337
    my taxes will continue to pay for the greed of a few and the death of many.
    "Don't let the darkness eat you up..."

    -Greg Dulli

  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    deadnote wrote:
    thats the consequences of your fucked up behavior
    you look in the mirror
    you take resposibility
    and you hit the road jack


    i know someday ill have a beautiful life
    but i wont be no star

    never.

    im running bitches

    i wanna be a flaming twinkle screaming down
    my shimmering beauty inside everyones darkness.

    i changed my signature just a few minutes ago.
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    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Of war and peace the truth just twists
    Its curfew gull just glides...
    -Bob Dylan, Gates of Eden
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  • ArmsinaV
    ArmsinaV Posts: 108
    War has its time and place, but this war certainly never did. An awful, misguided, war......
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    icarus wrote:
    war is perfectly natural.

    When you break it down into individual human components, it has the characteristics of aggression (among other things), but war as we know it today, is a concerted effort by those who would prefer to tell us all what to think and do.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    War is irrational. War is what happens when you fail to use intellect to solve problems.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    icarus wrote:
    hasn't it always been like that? how is that any different from any other time in history? and how does that make it unnatural?

    "History", to me, as you put it, isn't natural, so you'll have to find a better way to express your question.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    icarus wrote:
    hasn't it always been like that? how is that any different from any other time in history? and how does that make it unnatural?

    People evolve past these methods...just as people have moved past many archaic methods of cavemen, slavery, racism, sexism in the past. These become outdated and less and less accepted. These old ways are replaced with more rational and mindful ways to co-exist. We're changing more and more every day. Embrace it. It's the future.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    icarus wrote:
    how is war irrational?

    If you resort to violence instead of intellectual reasoning to solve your problems in life then you're an irrational person.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    People evolve past these methods...just as people have moved past many archaic methods of cavemen, slavery, racism, sexism in the past. These become outdated and less and less accepted. These old ways are replaced with more rational and mindful ways to co-exist. We're changing more and more every day. Embrace it. It's the future.
    all that stuff sadly enough still goes this day in age. id say little girls in asia being used as sex slaves is archaic as it gets
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    gue_barium wrote:
    "History", to me, as you put it, isn't natural, so you'll have to find a better way to express your question.

    A better way to put it would be,
    In your personal history, how has war come to play a part in your life?

    And, don't give me any shenanigans about past wars and the american way. I want to know how you've confronted war on a personal basis.

    For instance, I served in the Marine Corps as a young man, and that is probably as close to war as I'll (hopefully) ever get.... How close to war have you been, yourself?
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    all that stuff sadly enough still goes this day in age. id say little girls in asia being used as sex slaves is archaic as it gets

    Very true. But is it accepted? No, it's something that most of us all rail against...whereas it used to be accepted widely. That's evolution and it's spreading.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    icarus wrote:
    theres are plenty of circumstances in which violence or war is perfectly rational, such as in cases of survival or when intellectual reasoning cannot solve disputes. war is rational to actors in which the relative or absolute gains are larger than cooperation.

    Where, in your personal history have you confronted this scenario?
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Very true. But is it accepted? No, it's something that most of us all rail against...whereas it used to be accepted widely. That's evolution and it's spreading.
    yes id say its accepted in some parts.just like we've accpted being racist against muslims who wear turbans and have a beard, but thats cause of the brainwashing by the neo cons, u and i may not, but alot people do here in america
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  • Alex_Coe
    Alex_Coe Posts: 762
    Usually, war sucks I admit.

    War isn't that bad... if you're not fighting in it. And if you manufacture military weapons, war is freaking awesome. If your name is "Bernie" etc war is a tragedy you can take to the bank.


    In conclusion, the Indians had a wide and various culture.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    icarus wrote:
    there are plenty of circumstances in which violence or war is perfectly rational, such as in cases of survival or when intellectual reasoning cannot solve disputes. war is rational to actors in which the relative or absolute gains are larger than cooperation.

    People have always found ways to rationalize things that are unacceptable nowadays. The indiscriminate killing of another people is something a large number of us are finding more and more unacceptable. It's growing everyday and one day will be a thing of the past...a rarity. If you disagree, that's fine but this is what I'm seeing.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    yes id say its accepted in some parts.just like we've accpted being racist against muslims who wear turbans and have a beard, but thats cause of the brainwashing by the neo cons, u and i may not, but alot people do here in america

    Yes, it is but it's getting better because it's getting more rare. The age of information can be a beautiful thing. People are joining together in awareness of these injustices and taking a stand.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Yes, it is but it's getting better because it's getting more rare. The age of information can be a beautiful thing. People are joining together in awareness of these injustices and taking a stand.
    i agree but not enough is being done bout it, how often do u hear bout sex slaves on the news
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