I asked this in another thread, so maybe you can tell me what the answer to this is, because I haven't heard one McCain supporter answer it well thus far:
-McCain has said Obama is not fit to lead the country due to his lack of experience in Washington. This is his central attack theme.
-McCain has chosen a vice president, whose job it is to take the job of Presidency and be qualified to keep the stability of the country intact, with less government experience than Obama, and absolutely no foreign policy credentials. Let me say that again; absolutely NO foreign policy credentials.
-What, then, makes Palin more qualified than Barack Obama to possibly be President of the United States? And if there is nothing that makes her more qualified than Obama, then doesn't that make McCain's central argument that Obama is not fit to lead completely invalid? (remember, naming someone as a VP nominee means you are endorsing them to be capable of taking on the presidency in a moment's notice).
I'm not a McCain supporter but since you asked me I will try to answer your comments. My answer is that politicians are hypocrites. Obama supporters say Palin doesn't have foreign policy experience but that's the pot calling the kettle black (please don't take that as a racist comment, black is beautiful, I only use the quote so you understand the point I'm trying to make). And McCain critisizes Obama for lack of experience and then proceeds to pick a running mate with little or less experience than his challenger, albeit his ticket's lack of experience is in the number 2 spot and not the number 1 spot so she should be able to pick up some critical experience before he keels over one day when that intern under his desk is just too much for him to handle.
Other problems I have with the tickets. How does a man who looks at best like death warmed over get a wife as hot as Cindy McCain?
Why is everyone so excited about Obama being the first black president? He's a white man, too. McCain is 100% old and Palin is 100% female, but Obama is just as much white as black. Yes he looks black, but if he were fair skinned would we ignore the that he's a black man? Definately not. So why ignore that he's also white?
I say all this in jest - funny observations that I make here and there that I know are not central to core issues so please don't blast me. I don't want trouble from Jesse Jackson or the AARP. But if you can't laugh at the politians you'd have to cry.
And if there's something you'd like to do. Oh, just let me continue to blame you.
He's trying to scoop up votes from the jilted hillary fans.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Well, it's a non-issue for me, but a good answer is...
Only 1 is running for the top spot.
Why it comes up is to:
1. Point out the hypocrisy of McCain bashing Obama for lack of experience then choosing someone with less experience than him for his VP. He's 72. He said himself a while back that his VP would have to be someone ready to step in and take over.
2. To stop McCain from being able to use the inexperience attack on Obama. It was the one attack that was working somewhat. Now if he uses it the Obama camp can just call him on the hypocrisy and say "he can't think it matters that much or he wouldn't put someone with even less experience one heartbeat away from the oval office."
Personally, it doesn't bother me that she's inexperienced and Obama's lack of experience/brainwashing into old Washington politics is part of the draw. But I can't ignore the hypocrisy in McCain choosing her after railing against Obama's lack of experience repeatedly.
He's trying to scoop up votes from the jilted hillary fans.
If that was his goal, this wasn't a good method. Palin is further right than him and staunchly pro life. That's not going to get many jilted Hillary fans--just the few dumb enough to vote for gender alone and ignore that her beliefs are polar opposite of Hillary's whose they professed to share.
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2008: DC, Ed DC II
Lets compare that to - beauty pageant participant, local PTA head, 1 term mayor of tiny town and 20 months as governor of the least populated state in the US. No comparison in my book.
I admit she lacks experience, but be fair here.
She had two terms in city council, 2 terms as mayor, was head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, and then was elected governor. Alaska is not the smallest state - there are three smaller than it (one of which is Vermont and many dems are/were fans of Howard Dean when he ran for pres, and another is Wyoming where Cheyney the current VP is from).
Alaska is only slightly smaller in population than Delaware and no one has any problems with Biden.
Additionally, as Mayor and Governor, she has been an executive in government. Not just a junior legislator who can come and go without anyone noticing or missing him.
As an executive, the buck stops with you. As a junior legislator you can miss votes when you feel like it, propose legislation when the rare mood hits, join others on their bills when you feel like, abstain from voting if you can't decide or don't want something on your record, etc...
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Additionally, as Mayor and Governor, she has been an executive in government. Not just a junior legislator who can come and go without anyone noticing or missing him.
As an executive, the buck stops with you. As a junior legislator you can miss votes when you feel like it, propose legislation when the rare mood hits, join others on their bills when you feel like, abstain from voting if you can't decide or don't want something on your record, etc...
Funny enough, the man on the top of Palin's ticket doesn't have any executive experience, either. I saw Huckabee making the same mistake last night; he was going on and on about how Obama wouldn't learn anything as a state or U.S. Senator that would be necessary for the presidency, and the commentator had to point out for him that McCain's only political job has been legislative. Does any of this disqualify him from office? No, I'm not saying Palin is unfit to be commander-in-chief; McCain did when he said Obama has too little experience.
The problem with this choice is that nobody, absolutely nobody, is going to be voting for Obama due to his extensive experience in Washington. Agree with him or not, he has framed his candidacy in different terms and accentuated different strengths that he has. McCain is saying that this is the reason we shouldn't vote for him, and that argument rings extremely hollow when the person he endorsed as being capable of being president starting January 21, 2009, if need be, has less experience than his opponent. Even if we tilt the math extremely illogically in McCain/Palin's favor, and say that executive experience gives you twice as much experience as a legislator, Obama still has more government experience than her. And has foreign policy experience. I never thought Obama's foreign policy experience would work in his favor, but McCain's choice proved me wrong.
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Well, it's a non-issue for me, but a good answer is...
Only 1 is running for the top spot.
I'm not a McCain supporter but since you asked me I will try to answer your comments. My answer is that politicians are hypocrites. Obama supporters say Palin doesn't have foreign policy experience but that's the pot calling the kettle black (please don't take that as a racist comment, black is beautiful, I only use the quote so you understand the point I'm trying to make). And McCain critisizes Obama for lack of experience and then proceeds to pick a running mate with little or less experience than his challenger, albeit his ticket's lack of experience is in the number 2 spot and not the number 1 spot so she should be able to pick up some critical experience before he keels over one day when that intern under his desk is just too much for him to handle.
Other problems I have with the tickets. How does a man who looks at best like death warmed over get a wife as hot as Cindy McCain?
Why is everyone so excited about Obama being the first black president? He's a white man, too. McCain is 100% old and Palin is 100% female, but Obama is just as much white as black. Yes he looks black, but if he were fair skinned would we ignore the that he's a black man? Definately not. So why ignore that he's also white?
I say all this in jest - funny observations that I make here and there that I know are not central to core issues so please don't blast me. I don't want trouble from Jesse Jackson or the AARP. But if you can't laugh at the politians you'd have to cry.
EV Chi 1, 08/21/08
EV Memphis, 06/20/09
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Why it comes up is to:
1. Point out the hypocrisy of McCain bashing Obama for lack of experience then choosing someone with less experience than him for his VP. He's 72. He said himself a while back that his VP would have to be someone ready to step in and take over.
2. To stop McCain from being able to use the inexperience attack on Obama. It was the one attack that was working somewhat. Now if he uses it the Obama camp can just call him on the hypocrisy and say "he can't think it matters that much or he wouldn't put someone with even less experience one heartbeat away from the oval office."
Personally, it doesn't bother me that she's inexperienced and Obama's lack of experience/brainwashing into old Washington politics is part of the draw. But I can't ignore the hypocrisy in McCain choosing her after railing against Obama's lack of experience repeatedly.
If that was his goal, this wasn't a good method. Palin is further right than him and staunchly pro life. That's not going to get many jilted Hillary fans--just the few dumb enough to vote for gender alone and ignore that her beliefs are polar opposite of Hillary's whose they professed to share.
2006: Camden I & II, DC
2008: DC, Ed DC II
I admit she lacks experience, but be fair here.
She had two terms in city council, 2 terms as mayor, was head of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, and then was elected governor. Alaska is not the smallest state - there are three smaller than it (one of which is Vermont and many dems are/were fans of Howard Dean when he ran for pres, and another is Wyoming where Cheyney the current VP is from).
Alaska is only slightly smaller in population than Delaware and no one has any problems with Biden.
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As an executive, the buck stops with you. As a junior legislator you can miss votes when you feel like it, propose legislation when the rare mood hits, join others on their bills when you feel like, abstain from voting if you can't decide or don't want something on your record, etc...
Funny enough, the man on the top of Palin's ticket doesn't have any executive experience, either. I saw Huckabee making the same mistake last night; he was going on and on about how Obama wouldn't learn anything as a state or U.S. Senator that would be necessary for the presidency, and the commentator had to point out for him that McCain's only political job has been legislative. Does any of this disqualify him from office? No, I'm not saying Palin is unfit to be commander-in-chief; McCain did when he said Obama has too little experience.
The problem with this choice is that nobody, absolutely nobody, is going to be voting for Obama due to his extensive experience in Washington. Agree with him or not, he has framed his candidacy in different terms and accentuated different strengths that he has. McCain is saying that this is the reason we shouldn't vote for him, and that argument rings extremely hollow when the person he endorsed as being capable of being president starting January 21, 2009, if need be, has less experience than his opponent. Even if we tilt the math extremely illogically in McCain/Palin's favor, and say that executive experience gives you twice as much experience as a legislator, Obama still has more government experience than her. And has foreign policy experience. I never thought Obama's foreign policy experience would work in his favor, but McCain's choice proved me wrong.