What Sarah Palin's selection says about McCain...

Rider

The selection of Palin says one thing to me, that John McCain when faced with the most important decision he has ever had to make chose the person he thought most likely (and probably incorrectly) to gain him votes OVER people much more likely and qualified to be a good president. Some of them his long time allies. It was purely motivated by vote trolling and not by doing what is right for the country. That, to me makes him a greedy hypocrite unfit for the presidency. He is 72, Palin could easily be president soon, she is totally not ready. Bad choice.

Obama/Biden is looking more appealing all the time. I donated $ for the first time in my life to a politician this election, it was to Ron Paul, he is sadly out and I am most likely going to vote Obama unless he really blows it during the debates.

Indian Summer

This Palin thing is crazy. For him to criticize Obama's lack of experience, and then pick this lady is contradictory of himself! He's desperate though, so I can understand why the GOP had to do it. Obama has the swing states on his side, so the repubs gotta try and get some random feminists votes.

I don't really like Obama (although paired with Biden he does look more appealing), but I think he's got this election in the bag already.

If the McCain and the Republican party thought they were safe on this election, it would have been Romney or Lieberman sitting beside him right now. But they're nervous and scared, so this act of desperation is the result....which IMO looks good for Obama.

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Indian Summer wrote:

This Palin thing is crazy. For him to criticize Obama's lack of experience, and then pick this lady is contradictory of himself! He's desperate though, so I can understand why the GOP had to do it. Obama has the swing states on his side, so the repubs gotta try and get some random feminists votes.

I don't really like Obama (although paired with Biden he does look more appealing), but I think he's got this election in the bag already.

If the McCain and the Republican party thought they were safe on this election, it would have been Romney or Lieberman sitting beside him right now. But they're nervous and scared, so this act of desperation is the result....which IMO looks good for Obama.

I agree that this is most likely why he chose her. What's sad/enfuriating is that he's showing that he doesn't know a thing about the values of the women he's trying to win over. It's insulting for him to think we would vote for her just because she's a woman. I'm surprised she herself isn't offended as well.

Indian Summer

scb wrote:

I agree that this is most likely why he chose her. What's sad/enfuriating is that he's showing that he doesn't know a thing about the values of the women he's trying to win over. It's insulting for him to think we would vote for her just because she's a woman. I'm surprised she herself isn't offended as well.

GREAT point. And after Hilary's AMAZING speech the other night, i think most Clinton supporters are throwing that support to Obama now. She rocked the shit at the DNC, gave me chills. I can't wait to see what the RNC has to answer with!

beachdweller

Rider wrote:

The selection of Palin says one thing to me, that John McCain when faced with the most important decision he has ever had to make chose the person he thought most likely (and probably incorrectly) to gain him votes OVER people much more likely and qualified to be a good president. Some of them his long time allies. It was purely motivated by vote trolling and not by doing what is right for the country. That, to me makes him a greedy hypocrite unfit for the presidency. He is 72, Palin could easily be president soon, she is totally not ready. Bad choice.

Obama/Biden is looking more appealing all the time. I donated $ for the first time in my life to a politician this election, it was to Ron Paul, he is sadly out and I am most likely going to vote Obama unless he really blows it during the debates.

Palin's selection will excite the base and extreme right, and that's it. Like others have said, there aren't any Pat Buchanan/Hillary Clinton types to move. She's very conservative. Can't see much help with the middle, McCain does better with the middle, and with this decision he'll lose some of them.

Obama will win at least 340 electoral delegates in the Novemeber election. Including Ohio, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, possibly Georgia and Florida, and a long shot at Montana. That's my guess.

ScottZeagle

I think McCain is a huge Ted Nugent fan...

And since there was no way he would get elected with Ted as his VP, he went out and got the female version.

g under p

Indian Summer wrote:

GREAT point. And after Hilary's AMAZING speech the other night, i think most Clinton supporters are throwing that support to Obama now. She rocked the shit at the DNC, gave me chills. I can't wait to see what the RNC has to answer with!

That's IF they ever have it, it just seems things aren't going there way right now.

Peace

unsung

I don't see how anyone can support Ron Paul then switch to Obama.

g under p

unsung wrote:

I don't see how anyone can support Ron Paul then switch to Obama.

I went from Kucinich to Ron Paul and I now know Obama will be the next President of the USA. It happens ALL the time.

Peace

Indian Summer

g under p wrote:

I went from Kucinich to Ron Paul and I now know Obama will be the next President of the USA. It happens ALL the time.

Peace

You're forced into it. I'm was all for Clinton, but my vote my main reason for voting is against McCain....which has to be for Obama. I've been telling ppl, I'm not voting for Obama, but I'm voting against McCain.

jeffbr

Awesome thread! It is just like the 20 others about this topic!!!! Way to keep things interesting and fresh.

kh65

I think most of you people are on crack. Biden brings nothing to the Dem. ticket except politics as usual. She brings youth (44) and executive experience (as a popular gov.). She sounds like my kind of person. She is also a bit of a maverick and has distanced herself from the two corrupt AK senators. She wants to cut taxes and not have the govt. provide everything for us. She wants people to be able to make their own choices not have the govt. tell us what is best for us. It has also neutralized some Dem. arguments. The Dem. position looks weaker and weaker to me. McCain can at least speak without a teleprompter. He might make a mistake here and there but he is a real person not a puppet. He sounds natural when he speaks and doesn't need everything scripted for him. Have you also noticed that Obama's wife was put on the shelf for a long time because she kept opening her mouth and saying stupid things?

Jeanwah

Rider wrote:

The selection of Palin says one thing to me, that John McCain when faced with the most important decision he has ever had to make chose the person he thought most likely (and probably incorrectly) to gain him votes OVER people much more likely and qualified to be a good president. Some of them his long time allies. It was purely motivated by vote trolling and not by doing what is right for the country. That, to me makes him a greedy hypocrite unfit for the presidency. He is 72, Palin could easily be president soon, she is totally not ready. Bad choice.

Absolutely. It's clear that instead of making the wise choice, he went with the desperation for votes choice. He really must think the public is stupid to fall for this. The woman has 2 yrs. experience as governor! 2 years! And she could possibly end up running the country if the old guy dies off. That's SCARY.

keeponrockin

Anybody that thinks that creationism should be taught in public schools is an idiot. Not different, an idiot. Something that has absolutley no basis in fact or research should not be taught.

But I forgot... The Bible's right because the Bible says its right....

digster

I do like Cindy McCain; her humanitarian work is fantastic.

But I think I'll go nuts if I hear one more person say that Palin has foreign policy experience because Alaska is near Russia.

brokenarrow

kh65 wrote:

She brings youth (44) and executive experience (as a popular gov.).[/i]

she's in her first term, she's not even an experienced Governor yet. Before that she was a small town Mayor and on a City Council. ????? That is definitely not an experienced person.

This choice is simply a long shot hoping to gain the Hillary Clinton supporters, if people don't see that they aren't opening their eyes.
And if this woman, who has already spieled out the 'woman' talk thinks she speaks for all women, she is sorely mistaken.

loved the picture of her in the Post with her high-powered rifle.
Their headline the day after the announcement was..

'She hunts,
she fishes,
and she's
Mac's veep'



yeah, those are really good qualifications to run a country God forbid anything happened to the President if he was elected.
But look at what's been running the country for the last 8 years, maybe she is a great choice.

:::shakes head:::

Green Di$ea$e

don't forget she was also mayor of a town (population 9000 people....)

anyone else hear the latest news that "her" youngest son might actually be her 17yr old daughters...

Piper At The Gates

Green Di$ea$e wrote:

don't forget she was also mayor of a town (population 9000 people....)

anyone else hear the latest news that "her" youngest son might actually be her 17yr old daughters...

THANK YOU, SO MUCH. I am not the only one who has heard this!

drew0

kh65 wrote:

I think most of you people are on crack. Biden brings nothing to the Dem. ticket except politics as usual. She brings youth (44) and executive experience (as a popular gov.). She sounds like my kind of person. She is also a bit of a maverick and has distanced herself from the two corrupt AK senators. She wants to cut taxes and not have the govt. provide everything for us. She wants people to be able to make their own choices not have the govt. tell us what is best for us. It has also neutralized some Dem. arguments. The Dem. position looks weaker and weaker to me. McCain can at least speak without a teleprompter. He might make a mistake here and there but he is a real person not a puppet. He sounds natural when he speaks and doesn't need everything scripted for him. Have you also noticed that Obama's wife was put on the shelf for a long time because she kept opening her mouth and saying stupid things?

Most of us aren't saying Palin isn't a good governor. However, it's hypocritical, pathetic, desperate, and just plain ridiculous for John McCain to base his entire campaign on how important experience is, and how Barack Obama doesn't have experience. Then he turns around and chooses a woman who has absolutely no qualifications to be president except for being governor of 600,00 people for A YEAR AND A HALF. He just shot himself in the foot - he took away his only legitimate argument against Obama. Now whenever he says Obama doesn't have the experience to be president, people will laugh in his face.

She is also a radical right-wing Christian. She doesn't appeal to women. The majority of women who supported Hillary, but are on the fence, will not support a ticket with a woman as the V.P. who wants to overturn Roe v. Wade. It's just not going to happen.

Also, you say Michelle Obama was "on the shelf". Ever why the American people have never heard a word from Cindy McCain? Hm...wonder why.

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drew0 wrote:

Most of us aren't saying Palin isn't a good governor. However, it's hypocritical, pathetic, desperate, and just plain ridiculous for John McCain to base his entire campaign on how important experience is, and how Barack Obama doesn't have experience. Then he turns around and chooses a woman who has absolutely no qualifications to be president except for being governor of 600,00 people for A YEAR AND A HALF. He just shot himself in the foot - he took away his only legitimate argument against Obama. Now whenever he says Obama doesn't have the experience to be president, people will laugh in his face.

She is also a radical right-wing Christian. She doesn't appeal to women. The majority of women who supported Hillary, but are on the fence, will not support a ticket with a woman as the V.P. who wants to overturn Roe v. Wade. It's just not going to happen.

Also, you say Michelle Obama was "on the shelf". Ever why the American people have never heard a word from Cindy McCain? Hm...wonder why.

I must say, even though I never planned to vote for McCain, I did see him as a viable, legitimate candidate. Now he's just shown me that he's scared, weak, and desperate. Desperation doesn't look good when you're trying to choose the next leader of the free world.

I agree that he just shot himself in the foot - as a knee-jerk reaction to fear. Makes me wonder what else he'll shoot without thinking when he gets scared.

keithcandyl

Piper At The Gates wrote:

THANK YOU, SO MUCH. I am not the only one who has heard this!

I think ya'll are confusing the question of the Palin youngest son with the last season of Desperate House Wives. But I understand, it's so hard to keep from confusing Hollywood and politics.