I think that Obama's Speech was.....

Flannel Shirt

Obamas speech was awesome and inspiring. This man is something special. I WILL be naive and place my trust and hope in him.

Lets not turn this into a abortion and gun debate. There are a lot more important issues that need attention. Like Obama said, we ALL want to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Nobody "wants to take the lives of unborn babies" as a previous poster said. Lets work together on that. Many of us enjoy hunting and shooting sports, but we dont enjoy our neighborhoods being shot at by thugs on a nightly basis. Something else we all agree on. Again, lets focus on that. I do not know of one Democrat on earth who wants guns taken away from everyone.

FiveB247x

I thought the speech was decent - but with that said I think he's full of bs and 90% of what he claimed he would do in his presidency wouldn't occur.

Anyone can claim they will do something - saying such is not inspiring - doing it is!

gathering speed

FiveB247x wrote:

I thought the speech was decent - but with that said I think he's full of bs and 90% of what he claimed he would do in his presidency wouldn't occur.

Anyone can claim they will do something - saying such is not inspiring - doing it is!

I would have to agree.

inmytree

PEPPER wrote:

I am actually concerned about this...not once did someone speak of beating a women then you come out of left field to assume a obasm is a women getting beaten....strange

And another thing about a Hippocrate (sp?) you give me 3 options and I chose the one that you didn't like so I am an idiot....that is a hippo

no one called you a hippo or a hypocrite...I just call 'em like I see 'em...

as for the other part of your post, someone posted a video yesterday of a women getting pummeled and commented how funny and amusing it was...in fact, the said person felt it got better each time s/he viewed it...

as for your madeup word, it's cute...perhaps the repubs need some mcagra or mcallis to reach a obasm....

inmytree

FiveB247x wrote:

Anyone can claim they will do something - saying such is not inspiring - doing it is!

Agreed...so, lets vote for him and support him to "do it"...

Flannel Shirt

FiveB247x wrote:

I thought the speech was decent - but with that said I think he's full of bs and 90% of what he claimed he would do in his presidency wouldn't occur.

Anyone can claim they will do something - saying such is not inspiring - doing it is!

I am not a fan of politicians either, and yes they are full of shit. But, I do trust this guy. Call me crazy.

You cannot do what you promised if you are not elected. Pure and simple. To get elected, you need to "inspire" or "motivate" people to vote for you with your words and track record. Then, and only then, can he insire people such as you by doing what he said. You got to take a chance.

heartdesire

Flannel Shirt wrote:

I am not a fan of politicians either, and yes they are full of shit. But, I do trust this guy. Call me crazy.

You cannot do what you promised if you are not elected. Pure and simple. To get elected, you need to "inspire" or "motivate" people to vote for you with your words and track record. Then, and only then, can he insire people such as you by doing what he said. You got to take a chance.

Well said. I'm with ya!

justam

The speech was a lot better than I expected.

FiveB247x

I do not trust or believe any politician. We have a corrupt system which is run by private interests and business agendas.

This election will be an interesting experiment. We'll get to see how racist our society still is once it is over. If Obama passes that portion and is elected, then we'll get to find out (or in my opinion, it will specifically show) how much of our government is really in our control or in our behalf compared to private interests, lobbying and corporate influenced decisions.

My guess is that McCain will win - not because he's better, simply because the Rep's know how to run an election - dirty and don't give voters any credit to think - merely generalize. The Dems are terrible with reading the public and society around them which causes them to undermind themselves and look weak with no real plan. But even if Obama is elected, I feel the vast majority of his "changes" will be undercut in Congress due to private interests and lobbying. If such a thing were to occur, it would hopefully and truly wake people up to how off kilt our democracy is because of the corporate agenda, compared to just having one biased political party blame the other half for all the problems we see in society and our actions abroad.

This week was Blue BS week, next week is Red BS week. What a load.

Flannel Shirt wrote:

I am not a fan of politicians either, and yes they are full of shit. But, I do trust this guy. Call me crazy.

You cannot do what you promised if you are not elected. Pure and simple. To get elected, you need to "inspire" or "motivate" people to vote for you with your words and track record. Then, and only then, can he insire people such as you by doing what he said. You got to take a chance.

Smellyman2

finally watched the speech...

Damn.....That is a President!!

cincybearcat

Here's what I thought....I'm sure you've been wondering

I thought the speech was pretty terrific. Being a republican for th emost part, I obviosuly disagreed with some of the statements. And the beginning was pissing me off because he was talking in generalities again with no substance...but then he came back to each point later in the speech with substance. I thought he did a great job of 'attacking' McCain on issues (not personal). I thought he was inspiring. I liked the overall messsage though, as I said, I disagree with him on several issues.

My wife said..."That's what a president should look and sound like"...obviously, she had more opinions of the meat of the issues, but she was also right. He did project as being presidential. Being a leader without being an ego-maniac. Making it about the people and the issues.

Here's the thing...as president maybe it's ok to talk more in generalities and setting lofty goals without specific plans to attack each issue...that's what you delegate to the experts. Think abotu a large corporation, the CEO determines the overal path...the future...where the company should be in the coming years. Sets stretch goals...but doesn't tell people how to get there specifically. He/She challenges them to meet the lofty goals using their own ingenuity and creativity...and it happens if you have the right people. So, his message of change could work without specifics if he puts th eright people in the right jobs and the American People believe and work towards the solutions together.

Anyhow, I'm still undecided, but McCain and his VP pick better be good next week. I really hope he picks a woman VP, that would be extremely interesting. But Obama may be worth a shot to see if any of this change can actually happen. And without him stealing all of my change ($).

inmytree

cincybearcat wrote:

Here's what I thought....I'm sure you've been wondering

I thought the speech was pretty terrific. Being a republican for th emost part, I obviosuly disagreed with some of the statements. And the beginning was pissing me off because he was talking in generalities again with no substance...but then he came back to each point later in the speech with substance. I thought he did a great job of 'attacking' McCain on issues (not personal). I thought he was inspiring. I liked the overall messsage though, as I said, I disagree with him on several issues.

My wife said..."That's what a president should look and sound like"...obviously, she had more opinions of the meat of the issues, but she was also right. He did project as being presidential. Being a leader without being an ego-maniac. Making it about the people and the issues.

Here's the thing...as president maybe it's ok to talk more in generalities and setting lofty goals without specific plans to attack each issue...that's what you delegate to the experts. Think abotu a large corporation, the CEO determines the overal path...the future...where the company should be in the coming years. Sets stretch goals...but doesn't tell people how to get there specifically. He/She challenges them to meet the lofty goals using their own ingenuity and creativity...and it happens if you have the right people. So, his message of change could work without specifics if he puts th eright people in the right jobs and the American People believe and work towards the solutions together.

Anyhow, I'm still undecided, but McCain and his VP pick better be good next week. I really hope he picks a woman VP, that would be extremely interesting. But Obama may be worth a shot to see if any of this change can actually happen. And without him stealing all of my change ($).

there's hope for you yet...;)

seriously, great post....

mdg164

inmytree wrote:

hey, since you have nothing to hide, why don't you share your name, address and contact information...? you've got nothing to hide....right...?

and yes, sex is bad, mmmkay...:rolleyes:

talking points don't always sound as good to others as they do you...just a thought...

Typical liberal diversion. You are talking apples and oranges. Posting my contact information online and the government listening in to me on the phone are two completly seperate things. If you already can't understand the difference, then I doubt I should waste my time trying to explain it to you.

It's just like those diversionary Obama commercials talking about Bill Ayers commiting crimes when Obama was 8, and not touching on the real issue of them being buddies.

Rider

That was well thought out and a good read Bearcat.

I hope Obama is for real, I am not yet too jaded to believe what we saw last night was a guy who could help America to get back its greatness. He has some good ideas appears to have good sense and has a presidential demeanor. It should be interesting to see if our society can make what appears to be the right choice this year.

Vedder316

His speech blew. I cant wait to see him fumble in debates when he doesn't have a teleprompter. McCain is going to wipe the floor with him.

heartdesire

Vedder316 wrote:

His speech blew. I cant wait to see him fumble in debates when he doesn't have a teleprompter. McCain is going to wipe the floor with him.

Wow. Sock it to Obama Vedder316.

McCain won't be using a teleprompter cuz he can't see that far. He may use an ear prompter, though that won't be workin' so well either as he doesn't listen. The dude can't even remember how many houses he has. It's more like Obama will be lookin' on as McCain puddles to the floor. It shall be interesting.

We all have opinions ... let's just wait and see what happens. : )

fuck

seeing as how Obama told all his supporters who the VP was through text messages, I suppose McCain used a telegraph?

Vedder316

heart&desire wrote:

Wow. Sock it to Obama Vedder316.

McCain won't be using a teleprompter cuz he can't see that far. He may use an ear prompter, though that won't be workin' so well either as he doesn't listen. The dude can't even remember how many houses he has. It's more like Obama will be lookin' on as McCain puddles to the floor. It shall be interesting.

We all have opinions ... let's just wait and see what happens. : )

LOL indeed. A good laugh never the less.

heartdesire

Vedder316 wrote:

LOL indeed. A good laugh never the less.

I loved the speech. I'm voting for Obama.

Laugh my friend laugh. It is your choice.

I'll talk to ya in November. : )

beachdweller

_outlaw wrote:

follow Bin Laden RIGHT TO HIS CAVE!!

even if that means stepping on the dead bodies of all those Afghans!!

yep, Afghans that Bin Laden and the Taliban keep killing since Bush and McCain thought Afghanistan was such a done deal...Bin Laden not worth pursuing...