McCain

shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
One thing about McCain , he is a class act.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq_fibs_ihk
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  • Good for him...

    I lost A LOT of respect for him after sucking up to Bush and Rove after they screwed him in 2000, but as a person, I like him.

    An Obama/McCain election could bring some civility back to politics.
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  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
    Good for him...

    I lost A LOT of respect for him after sucking up to Bush and Rove after they screwed him in 2000, but as a person, I like him.

    An Obama/McCain election could bring some civility back to politics.

    I hear ya, at least McCain is not even as bad as Mitt and some of those other Bozo's...
  • I'm stuck b/c I like him over Clinton and Obama, but I DO NOT like the fact hat wants to give amnesty to Illegals in the country. That is a big issue with me. They break the law to ge here and we reward them with a huge gift.
    Thats not right.
    I need to look at Nader b/c as of now I don't have a dog in the hunt which sucks.
    Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
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  • QuakQuak Posts: 14
    you amaricans really is special.

    You vote for Bush.. 2 times.. :)

    you create wonderfull music like Pearl Jam

    And now I read that McCain is leading the race ...
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    WOW, i am so inpressed with people here. i have always said that i like McCain and i would vote for him if i was not from Canada. I always find it funny that people keep saying that he is a McBush when in alot of issues he has not agreed with bush infact he has only agree with him abotu the war and i think for different reason.
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  • shadowcastshadowcast Posts: 2,231
    Quak wrote:
    you amaricans really is special.

    You vote for Bush.. 2 times.. :)

    you create wonderfull music like Pearl Jam

    And now I read that McCain is leading the race ...


    Yea but you LOVE US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)
  • This is why i love Mccain. He tells it like it is. Most have prob. seen this.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zQX2T8ZGAw
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  • SPALMASPALMA Posts: 2,279
    mccain has pissed off a lot of republicans. i likethat.
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  • One thing about McCain , he is a class act.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq_fibs_ihk

    going on damage control is being a class act?

    You know you are talking about a republican when you make a big deal about doing the right thing.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    I'm stuck b/c I like him over Clinton and Obama, but I DO NOT like the fact hat wants to give amnesty to Illegals in the country. That is a big issue with me. They break the law to ge here and we reward them with a huge gift.
    Thats not right.
    I need to look at Nader b/c as of now I don't have a dog in the hunt which sucks.


    youre damn right!

    Nader isn't turning away immigrants either.

    I wish the law was that... you can turn away an immigrant..except you have to leave with them.
  • macgyver06 wrote:
    youre damn right!

    Nader isn't turning away immigrants either.

    I wish the law was that... you can turn away an immigrant..except you have to leave with them.

    So your saying that we should allow anybody and everybody to come and go as they please in our country?

    Thats just stupid. Your asking for trouble.
    Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
    Sweep the Leg Johnny.
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    So your saying that we should allow anybody and everybody to come and go as they please in our country?

    Thats just stupid. Your asking for trouble.

    i think what h eis saying is that everyone in teh US is an immigrant and therefore we should leave with the people who we don't allow into the country.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • Thecure wrote:
    i think what h eis saying is that everyone in teh US is an immigrant and therefore we should leave with the people who we don't allow into the country.
    People always bring up the fact that we are all immigrants. Well that was true many years ago. But now, there are many many generations that are born in America, so now they are true americans. I am grateful that my family came here to be free. But its a whole new situation now. The world is different, and the old ways no longer apply. Accept the change brotha.
    America has gotta be more secure if we want to live the way we do.
    End of story.
    Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
    Sweep the Leg Johnny.
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    People always bring up the fact that we are all immigrants. Well that was true many years ago. But now, there are many many generations that are born in America, so now they are true americans. I am grateful that my family came here to be free. But its a whole new situation now. The world is different, and the old ways no longer apply. Accept the change brotha.
    America has gotta be more secure if we want to live the way we do.
    End of story.

    if you think about it, North America (thats means Canada too) stole the land and hence it does not matter how many generations were born here as it still is stolen land and hence we are all illigral immigrants.

    put it this way, if i stole your house and then my kids were born and were also living in that house are they entitled to that house because they have been there for generation? i think not
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    If McCain wasn't for Iraqi occupation, I would consider voting for him. I like him as a person. I don't agree with some of his views, but he is a respectable guy.
  • Thecure wrote:
    if you think about it, North America (thats means Canada too) stole the land and hence it does not matter how many generations were born here as it still is stolen land and hence we are all illigral immigrants.

    put it this way, if i stole your house and then my kids were born and were also living in that house are they entitled to that house because they have been there for generation? i think not

    Come on man.....

    If the half empty life boats came back to rescue all the people in the ocean right after the Titanic sank, what do ya think would happen to those boats?
    They would sink. There would be now way of systematically deciding who gets on and who does not. It would be chaos. Utter chaos.
    Their comes a time when you have to close the doors.
    Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
    Sweep the Leg Johnny.
  • McCain will fire up the guns and explode into space...

    I'm sure he'll put a few new coats of paint on the patriot act, and increase domestic spying as well.

    Bank on it.

    He'll go fight those terrorists just like the good old days trying to wipe out the commies....because that all worked out so well.

    One nation divided under god...Bankrupt.
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  • Come on man.....

    If the half empty life boats came back to rescue all the people in the ocean right after the Titanic sank, what do ya think would happen to those boats?
    They would sink. There would be now way of systematically deciding who gets on and who does not. It would be chaos. Utter chaos.
    Their comes a time when you have to close the doors.

    I can't believe this...

    Put yourself in their shoes...You couldn't just forget about the mistreatment of your people for hundreds of years by people (including their descendants) who took land belonging to you, raped your culture, and tried to completely assimilate you into American society without even an inch of respect for your heritage. Native Americans weren't even allowed to practice their religions legally until the government passed the American Indian Religious Freedom Act in 1978. Also, did you know that the average family income on the Pine Ridge Lakota Reservation is about $3,000?

    closing the doors?...Come on now...
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  • I liked McCain's environmental record, quite a bit. I like Obama too though. I have to say as someone registered as "not enrolled" it could be an interesting decision for me.
  • rigneyclan wrote:
    I can't believe this...

    Put yourself in their shoes...You couldn't just forget about the mistreatment of your people for hundreds of years by people (including their descendants) who took land belonging to you, raped your culture, and tried to completely assimilate you into American society without even an inch of respect for your heritage. Native Americans weren't even allowed to practice their religions legally until the government passed the American Indian Religious Freedom Act in 1978. Also, did you know that the average family income on the Pine Ridge Lakota Reservation is about $3,000?

    closing the doors?...Come on now...

    So are you really advocating that anyone who shows up at our borders should be allowed to come on in, documented or no?

    That's just fucking lunacy.

    Look, it sucks the way we (our descendants) obtained this land 300 years ago. It's not something to be proud of. But now what are we going to do?

    If we made sure all border control agents were full blooded Native Americans, would that make you feel better about us having, you know, some standards?
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  • If McCain wasn't for Iraqi occupation, I would consider voting for him. I like him as a person. I don't agree with some of his views, but he is a respectable guy.

    I find it close to impossible to agree with any candidate on EVERY issue. what it comes down to for me is the overall picture.
  • I find it close to impossible to agree with any candidate on EVERY issue. what it comes down to for me is the overall picture.

    My advice (not that is solicited) is to decide what are the absolute 2 or 3 top issues to you, and find the guy or gal that most closely aligns with you on those issues.

    For instance, if you are staunchly anti-Iraq war, McCain wouldn't be your guy, even if you agreed with him on every other minor issue.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    Come on man.....

    If the half empty life boats came back to rescue all the people in the ocean right after the Titanic sank, what do ya think would happen to those boats?
    They would sink. There would be now way of systematically deciding who gets on and who does not. It would be chaos. Utter chaos.
    Their comes a time when you have to close the doors.

    this has nothing to do with what i said.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    McCain will fire up the guns and explode into space...

    I'm sure he'll put a few new coats of paint on the patriot act, and increase domestic spying as well.

    Bank on it.

    He'll go fight those terrorists just like the good old days trying to wipe out the commies....because that all worked out so well.

    One nation divided under god...Bankrupt.

    also< mccain will eat your first child, rape you, and then kill you. of course, i have no proof about this but Roland has thought me that i don't need proof about anything
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    So are you really advocating that anyone who shows up at our borders should be allowed to come on in, documented or no?

    That's just fucking lunacy.

    Look, it sucks the way we (our descendants) obtained this land 300 years ago. It's not something to be proud of. But now what are we going to do?

    If we made sure all border control agents were full blooded Native Americans, would that make you feel better about us having, you know, some standards?

    we could go back to where our families came from. i would be happy having native be border agents so that they can get everyone who is not native and hence illigal out of teh country. are you in?
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • Dustin51Dustin51 Posts: 222
    If McCain wasn't for Iraqi occupation, I would consider voting for him. I like him as a person. I don't agree with some of his views, but he is a respectable guy.

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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    not surprised that a McCain thread became an illegal immigration thread...

    anyway, i'll throw my two cents in...

    the fact is illegal immigrants are here because the whole of American society wants them here. they work harder (because they have more to lose), and they don't have to be paid benefits. there isn't a single American who doesn't benefit in some way from the exploitation of illegal immigrants. the economy would collapse if we tried to kick them all out. The United States of America came to be because of uninvited invaders. but the invaders from the southern border were invited - by our business class, and it began to pay off for the general public, although many native-born workers lost their jobs. but it's only recently that we have begun to say as a country that we don't want to invite anymore.

    I personally think we should grant FULL amnesty and FULL documentation to all of the migrants that we have invited thru our back door. but at some point, you begin to have a serious breakdown of civil society when there is too much unorganized immigration. i'm sure we already have that in many parts of the country, especially in the southwest. i have to admit, illegal immigration hadn't had much of noticeable effect when i live in eastern massachusetts. but throughout the country, we need to move forward humanely and responsibly.
  • Thecure wrote:
    also< mccain will eat your first child, rape you, and then kill you. of course, i have no proof about this but Roland has thought me that i don't need proof about anything


    If you're a Muslim and you protest he most certainly will murder you and your children (and relatives), and definitely a rape here and there... Not personally though....he'll order troops take care of all that US patriotic goodness..

    Going on just the actual words coming out of his mouth. i.e. his own words coming out of his own mouth in case you missed it...

    "plan on hundreds of years of war if necessary". You know what war is right, and what happens during times of war?

    nuff said...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Thecure wrote:
    we could go back to where our families came from. i would be happy having native be border agents so that they can get everyone who is not native and hence illigal out of teh country. are you in?
    Actually....everybody who ever lived on this continent is or is descended from an immigrant. Humans did not evolve on this continent......the first humans on this continent came from Asia roughly 10,000 years ago....and then preceded to kill nearly all of the mega fauna present at the time.
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    not surprised that a McCain thread became an illegal immigration thread...

    anyway, i'll throw my two cents in...

    the fact is illegal immigrants are here because the whole of American society wants them here. they work harder (because they have more to lose), and they don't have to be paid benefits. there isn't a single American who doesn't benefit in some way from the exploitation of illegal immigrants. the economy would collapse if we tried to kick them all out. The United States of America came to be because of uninvited invaders. but the invaders from the southern border were invited - by our business class, and it began to pay off for the general public, although many native-born workers lost their jobs. but it's only recently that we have begun to say as a country that we don't want to invite anymore.
    I personally think we should grant FULL amnesty and FULL documentation to all of the migrants that we have invited thru our back door. but at some point, you begin to have a serious breakdown of civil society when there is too much unorganized immigration. i'm sure we already have that in many parts of the country, especially in the southwest. i have to admit, illegal immigration hadn't had much of noticeable effect when i live in eastern massachusetts. but throughout the country, we need to move forward humanely and responsibly.

    well put. I used to work with these dudes from el slavador, they put in as many hours as they could at minimum wage, which is shit. They did a lot for the company. and that's pretty common.
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