However I think students can miss out in a lot of socialization being home schooled even if they are still involved in sports and extra curricular activities through the school. I have seen kids that are home schooled actually get teased more by their peers because they are home schooled.
I think life and relationships are hard and you get a reality dose of that by going through the public education system. Is this more important than possibly a better education one could receive at home? For me I jacked around didn't really apply myself and got my act together later on in life but was happy for the ups and downs and experiences I had had in public education.
Public education is one of those hot topics that everyone wants to fix but nobody knows how. And when they (politicians) do think they know how they spout off at the mouth change the system and then someone else comes along says its still broken and changes it again. Around and around we go. Sorry a little off topic there.
"She knows there is no success like failure
And that failure's no success at all."
"Don't ya think its sometimes wise not to grow up."
"Cause life ain't nothing but a good groove
A good mixed tape to put you in the right mood."
I always thought that being your kids homeschool teacher (with no formal training) is kind of like being your kids doctor with no formal training. Sure if your kid gets sick or hurt you might be able to do the basic stuff to make him better and if there is something serious you might get lucky and do the right thing, but for most serious cases why wouldn't you want a professional doctor or teacher doing what they were trained to do?
This is how I feel about it too.
My children come home and tell me about what they've learned at school and I am happy they are learning such interesting and varied things that I often know nothing about!!!
Our school district is excellent so I'm happy they get the benefit of learning from good teachers.
One thing to think about. You aren't going to get shot by some crazy school kid next to you when being homeschooled. Public schools = increasingly unsafe.
Ya, your kid may grow up and win spelling bee's. But he will be a social misfit and probably become a unabomber. Or maybe send anthrax through the mail following some pattern in the phone book. If you don't believe me, check this home schooled kid out. He just won the spelling bee but has no idea how to communicate with another human other than his mom. http://youtube.com/watch?v=z4hLS01uscY&feature=related
so you think it's better for someone who gets bullied to be in that same school until he/she leaves the school? or should i say until that person commits suicide....because that is most likely thing to happen.
look, those people already have some sort of individuality in them which means they can't get along with others. i don't think homeschooling is bad, i think is fucking great, i was "homeschooled" ( actually no one taught me anything haha school was easy breeze after age of 13 )
as for social misfit..........well if anyone considers me a misfit then i'm proud, that's right i'm proud to be one and think differently to everyone else, at least i'm not a sheep. As for anthrax.....why do you think it's the only thing social misfit is capable of? in fact London bombers where very much social people and good achievers. Now brainwashing and mind control and fanaticism causes someone to become a terrorist. don't be quick to assume that social misfit will do no other than bad, who knows the kind of person might become greatest guitar player or an artist.
Me, too, genie!
I always find these home schooling threads so amusing. They select a group and target them. What about the shootings at schools, eh? There are misfits everywhere! EVERYWHERE!
People using this "what about social skills?" stuff is a load. Homeschooling takes nothing away from social skills.
When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
I'd have a hard time forming a conclusion about anything from one kid.
perhaps a dash of savant in there?
kid has no friends to play with?
This is a bull shit finding..
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
One thing to think about. You aren't going to get shot by some crazy school kid next to you when being homeschooled. Public schools = increasingly unsafe.
No, you will just end up drowning all five of your kids at home......much more safe being homeschooled!!
And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
No, you will just end up drowning all five of your kids at home......much more safe being homeschooled!!
There are examples of crazies to be found in all cross sections of the population.
I don't think either side of this argument can make a strong case on these extreme examples, especially when other factors might have contributed to them, as well.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Ya, your kid may grow up and win spelling bee's. But he will be a social misfit and probably become a unabomber. Or maybe send anthrax through the mail following some pattern in the phone book. If you don't believe me, check this home schooled kid out. He just won the spelling bee but has no idea how to communicate with another human other than his mom. http://youtube.com/watch?v=z4hLS01uscY&feature=related
oh i see. sadly i was under the mistaken impression that serial killers come from single moms or the gays.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
I don't think either side of this argument can make a strong case on these extreme examples, especially when other factors might have contributed to them, as well.
Excellent point.
Home schooling works wonders for some kids and destroys others. Same goes for institutional schooling of all kinds. Trying to make massive generalizations regarding the verious methods of schooling is a very perilous business.
um. my mom homeschooled all of her children for a few years (we did go to public school too..)
and here's the horrible outcome:
child one: PhD in math
child two: MA in history
child three (me): soon to be getting my MA in political science then law school
child four: MA in english + teaching credential
child five: BA in art history will be continuing on to get an MA
child six: just entered college. will be getting his BA in a few years.
um. my mom homeschooled all of her children for a few years (we did go to public school too..)
and here's the horrible outcome:
child one: PhD in math
child two: MA in history
child three (me): soon to be getting my MA in political science then law school
child four: MA in english + teaching credential
child five: BA in art history will be continuing on to get an MA
child six: just entered college. will be getting his BA in a few years.
and we're all "normal" people too.
LOL...what a travesty. Between the six of you, I can only imagine how many corpses are piled up in your basement.
THey call someone like him a "high-functioning" person with Autism. I'd say his parents have done pretty well with him. He is trying to keep his eyes up while he talks and he is using his intelligence to try to understand what she's asking him. Despite the fact that he doesn't have the expected enthusiasm or emotional response, he's not being inappropriate.
If you've seen a lot of these kids, you can recognize them.
This thread makes you seem ignorant.
exactly...!! on both accounts...
I'd be willing to bet this kid has a diagnosis of Aspergers or Pervasive Developmental Disorder...
I have NEVER met someone who was home schooled past the 7th or 8th grade who wasn't socially awkward.
Hey, silent t! How's it going? Are you still living in the same town as me?
back to the subject. I've thought about homeschooling my girls, but at the same time, I have to agree with silent t that I've never met any longtime home schoolers who weren't socially awkward... That doesn't mean they all are, but in my personal experience, they have been.
I mean, don't you want to interact with other kids? It cant be fun playing kickball with your mom everyday. How do you play heads up seven up with only 2 people?
you know all kids who are home schooled... arent exactly homeschooled by themselves right? there are other kids... almost like a public school except the intention isnt profit. Its to grow their children.
I don't agree with homeschooling for my children only because I want them to experience the social aspects of public schools. I thought this list was interesting though.
FAMOUS HOMESCHOOLERS
Build character and inspire your homeschooler with real-life stories of famous homeschoolers throughout history. To read their biographies, please click on each name and a new window will open with content courtesy of Wikipedia.
ARTISTS:
*
Leonardo da Vinci | Books About Leonardo Da Vinci
*
Claude Monet | Books About Claude Monet
*
John Singleton Copley | Books About John Singleton Copley
*
Andrew Wyeth | Books About Andrew Wyeth
*
Jamie Wyeth | Books About Jamie Wyeth
COMPOSERS:
*
Irving Berlin | Books About Irving Berlin
*
Anton Bruckner | Books About Anton Bruckner
*
Felix Mendelssohn | Books About Felix Mendelssohn
*
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart | Books About Wolfgang Amadeuz Mozart
*
Francis Poulenc | Books About Francis Poulenc
EDUCATORS:
*
Frederick Terman (Stanford University President) | Books About Frederick Terman
*
William Samuel Johnson (Columbia University President) | Books About William Samuel Johnson
*
Frank Vandiver (Texas A&M University President) | Books About Frank Vandiver
*
John Witherspoon (Princeton University President) | Books About John Witherspoon
GENERALS:
*
Stonewall Jackson | Books About Stonewall Jackson
*
Robert E. Lee | Books About Robert E. Lee
*
Douglas MacArthur | Books About Douglas MacArthur
*
George Patton | Books About George Patton
INVENTORS:
*
Alexander Graham Bell | Books About Alexander Graham Bell
*
Thomas Edison | Books About Thomas Edison
*
Cyrus McCormick | Books About Cyrus McCormick
*
Wright Brothers: Orville and Wilbur Wright | Books About Wright Brothers
PRESIDENTS:
*
John Quincy Adams
*
William Henry Harrison
*
Thomas Jefferson
*
Abraham Lincoln
*
James Madison
*
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
*
Theodore Roosevelt
*
John Tyler
*
George Washington
*
Woodrow Wilson
PREACHERS & RELIGIOUS LEADERS:
*
Moses
*
Joan of Arc
*
John the Baptist
*
William Cary
*
Jonathan Edwards
*
Phillip Melanchthon
*
Dwight L. Moody
*
John Newton
*
John Owen
*
Charles Wesley
*
John Wesley
*
Brigham Young
SCIENTISTS:
*
George Washington Carver
*
Pierre Curie
*
Albert Einstein
*
Blaise Pascal
*
Booker T. Washington
STATESMEN:
*
Konrad Adenauer
*
Winston Churchill
*
Benjamin Franklin
*
Patrick Henry
*
William Penn
*
Henry Clay
U.S SUPPREME COURT JUDGES:
*
John Jay
*
John Marshall
*
John Rutledge
WRITERS:
*
Hans Christian Andersen
*
Pearl S. Buck
*
Agatha Christie
*
Charles Dickens
*
Bret Harte
*
C.S. Lewis
*
Sean O'Casey
*
George Bernard Shaw
*
Mark Twain
*
Mercy Warren
*
Daniel Webster
*
Phillis Wheatley
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION DELEGATES:
*
Richard Basset (Governor of Delaware)
*
William Blount (U.S. Senator)
*
George Clymer (U.S. Representative)
*
William Few (U.S. Senator)
*
Benjamin Franklin (Inventor and Statesman)
*
William Houston (Lawyer)
*
William S. Johnson (President of Columbia C.)
*
William Livingston (Governor of New Jersey)
*
James Madison - 4th President of the U.S.
*
George Mason
*
John Francis Mercer (U.S. Representative)
*
Charles Pickney III (Governor of S. Carolina)
*
John Rutledge (Chief Justice U.S. Supreme Court)
*
Richard D. Spaight (Governor of N. Carolina)
*
George Washington - 1st President of the U.S.
*
John Witherspoon (President of Princeton U.)
*
George Wythe (Justice of Virginia High Court)
OTHERS:
*
Abigail Adams (Wife of John Adams)
*
Ansel Adams (Photographer)
*
Clara Barton (Started the Red Cross)
*
John Burroughs (Naturalist)
*
Andrew Carnegie (Industrialist)
*
Charles Chaplin (Actor)
*
George Rogers Clark - Explorer
*
Noel Coward (Playwright)
*
John Paul Jones (Father of the American Navy)
*
Sandra Day O'Connor
*
Tamara McKinney (World Cup Skier)
*
John Stuart Mill (Economist)
*
Charles Louis Montesquieu (Philosopher)
*
Florence Nightingale (Nurse)
*
Sally Ride (Astronaut)
*
Bill Ridell (Newspaperman)
*
George Rogers Clark (Explorer)
*
Will Rogers (Humorist)
*
Jim Ryan (World Runner)
*
Albert Schweitzer (Physician)
*
Leo Tolstoy
*
Martha Washington (Wife of George Washington)
I am not sure where your list came from, but I am pretty sure Moses lived long before the idea of a formal schools were developed so it was not like he was homeschooled as a choice based on multiple options.
This is so funny. I would like to know, first off, who sets the standards for what is socially...what, perfect? I love it when people are different. Who wants a world full of the same person? I was home schooled and I'm not the least bit socially awkward. I get a long fine with people, and in fact, I tend to hold more intelligent conversations than the people I talk to, who were all schooled in public schools. I'm 23 and I have my own business, I play piano and I wrote a book, and I'm really good with people. So, home schooling does not mess a person up. There were two reasons I was home schooled. One: my mom did not like the idea of her children being around a bunch of kids she didn't even know (and by the way, my mom had seven kids, so I had PLENTY of social activities). Two: she wanted to know what we were learning and that it was important.
I believe it should be up to the parents. It isn't up to anybody else, especially ignorant jerks who like to stick their noses in other peoples' business.
If I ever have any kids, they are going to be home schooled. Between the drugs they feed kids for being energetic and the punks in schools, there is no way I would subject them to such a culture. Not to mention the sex-ed, the fact that they teach evolution (and if they are going to do that, they should at LEAST teach all of the other religions in the world). Does this mean I would leave my kid in the dark? No. I would teach them what evolution is. Everybody should be fully educated and able to make their own choices.
When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
I think the original post was probably somewhat trolling, because it is not reasonable to make a blanket statement such as homeschooling does not work. My friend's homes-schooled daughter got: full scholarship of tuition, books and board to college, was the valedictorian at her college, and is now doing her PhD with full scholarship for tuition and I think, living stipend. No one system works for everyone, because people learn differently. This is where conventional schools can get it wrong, because not everyone fits the same mold.
R.i.p. Rigoberto Alpizar.
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008
Comments
However I think students can miss out in a lot of socialization being home schooled even if they are still involved in sports and extra curricular activities through the school. I have seen kids that are home schooled actually get teased more by their peers because they are home schooled.
I think life and relationships are hard and you get a reality dose of that by going through the public education system. Is this more important than possibly a better education one could receive at home? For me I jacked around didn't really apply myself and got my act together later on in life but was happy for the ups and downs and experiences I had had in public education.
Public education is one of those hot topics that everyone wants to fix but nobody knows how. And when they (politicians) do think they know how they spout off at the mouth change the system and then someone else comes along says its still broken and changes it again. Around and around we go. Sorry a little off topic there.
And that failure's no success at all."
"Don't ya think its sometimes wise not to grow up."
"Cause life ain't nothing but a good groove
A good mixed tape to put you in the right mood."
This is how I feel about it too.
My children come home and tell me about what they've learned at school and I am happy they are learning such interesting and varied things that I often know nothing about!!!
Our school district is excellent so I'm happy they get the benefit of learning from good teachers.
"No one cares about climbing stairs, Nothing at the top no more." Chris Cornell
so you think it's better for someone who gets bullied to be in that same school until he/she leaves the school? or should i say until that person commits suicide....because that is most likely thing to happen.
look, those people already have some sort of individuality in them which means they can't get along with others. i don't think homeschooling is bad, i think is fucking great, i was "homeschooled" ( actually no one taught me anything haha school was easy breeze after age of 13 )
as for social misfit..........well if anyone considers me a misfit then i'm proud, that's right i'm proud to be one and think differently to everyone else, at least i'm not a sheep. As for anthrax.....why do you think it's the only thing social misfit is capable of? in fact London bombers where very much social people and good achievers. Now brainwashing and mind control and fanaticism causes someone to become a terrorist. don't be quick to assume that social misfit will do no other than bad, who knows the kind of person might become greatest guitar player or an artist.
anyway i was homeschooled and proud :cool:
I always find these home schooling threads so amusing. They select a group and target them. What about the shootings at schools, eh? There are misfits everywhere! EVERYWHERE!
People using this "what about social skills?" stuff is a load. Homeschooling takes nothing away from social skills.
perhaps a dash of savant in there?
kid has no friends to play with?
This is a bull shit finding..
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
(")_(")
No, you will just end up drowning all five of your kids at home......much more safe being homeschooled!!
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
There are examples of crazies to be found in all cross sections of the population.
I don't think either side of this argument can make a strong case on these extreme examples, especially when other factors might have contributed to them, as well.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
oh i see. sadly i was under the mistaken impression that serial killers come from single moms or the gays.
cross the river to the eastside
Excellent point.
Home schooling works wonders for some kids and destroys others. Same goes for institutional schooling of all kinds. Trying to make massive generalizations regarding the verious methods of schooling is a very perilous business.
Hehe...I always laugh when someone puts "the" in front of a group of people as if they're some kind of singular entity intent on destroying us all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZZv5Z2Iz_s
and here's the horrible outcome:
child one: PhD in math
child two: MA in history
child three (me): soon to be getting my MA in political science then law school
child four: MA in english + teaching credential
child five: BA in art history will be continuing on to get an MA
child six: just entered college. will be getting his BA in a few years.
and we're all "normal" people too.
Hail, Hail!!!
LOL...what a travesty. Between the six of you, I can only imagine how many corpses are piled up in your basement.
oh well i wouldn't be surprised if some actually thought that. and it works well with many groups: the blacks, the ladies, etc.
cross the river to the eastside
keep that on the DL. please.
exactly...!! on both accounts...
I'd be willing to bet this kid has a diagnosis of Aspergers or Pervasive Developmental Disorder...
and yes, the OP is just plain ignorant...
I've never met a polar bear.
Hey, silent t! How's it going? Are you still living in the same town as me?
back to the subject. I've thought about homeschooling my girls, but at the same time, I have to agree with silent t that I've never met any longtime home schoolers who weren't socially awkward... That doesn't mean they all are, but in my personal experience, they have been.
I've never met a anyone who was home schooled...and if they were, they never said anything...:rolleyes:
you know all kids who are home schooled... arent exactly homeschooled by themselves right? there are other kids... almost like a public school except the intention isnt profit. Its to grow their children.
what you missed is that they are actually named
child one
child two
child three
FAMOUS HOMESCHOOLERS
Build character and inspire your homeschooler with real-life stories of famous homeschoolers throughout history. To read their biographies, please click on each name and a new window will open with content courtesy of Wikipedia.
ARTISTS:
*
Leonardo da Vinci | Books About Leonardo Da Vinci
*
Claude Monet | Books About Claude Monet
*
John Singleton Copley | Books About John Singleton Copley
*
Andrew Wyeth | Books About Andrew Wyeth
*
Jamie Wyeth | Books About Jamie Wyeth
COMPOSERS:
*
Irving Berlin | Books About Irving Berlin
*
Anton Bruckner | Books About Anton Bruckner
*
Felix Mendelssohn | Books About Felix Mendelssohn
*
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart | Books About Wolfgang Amadeuz Mozart
*
Francis Poulenc | Books About Francis Poulenc
EDUCATORS:
*
Frederick Terman (Stanford University President) | Books About Frederick Terman
*
William Samuel Johnson (Columbia University President) | Books About William Samuel Johnson
*
Frank Vandiver (Texas A&M University President) | Books About Frank Vandiver
*
John Witherspoon (Princeton University President) | Books About John Witherspoon
GENERALS:
*
Stonewall Jackson | Books About Stonewall Jackson
*
Robert E. Lee | Books About Robert E. Lee
*
Douglas MacArthur | Books About Douglas MacArthur
*
George Patton | Books About George Patton
INVENTORS:
*
Alexander Graham Bell | Books About Alexander Graham Bell
*
Thomas Edison | Books About Thomas Edison
*
Cyrus McCormick | Books About Cyrus McCormick
*
Wright Brothers: Orville and Wilbur Wright | Books About Wright Brothers
PRESIDENTS:
*
John Quincy Adams
*
William Henry Harrison
*
Thomas Jefferson
*
Abraham Lincoln
*
James Madison
*
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
*
Theodore Roosevelt
*
John Tyler
*
George Washington
*
Woodrow Wilson
PREACHERS & RELIGIOUS LEADERS:
*
Moses
*
Joan of Arc
*
John the Baptist
*
William Cary
*
Jonathan Edwards
*
Phillip Melanchthon
*
Dwight L. Moody
*
John Newton
*
John Owen
*
Charles Wesley
*
John Wesley
*
Brigham Young
SCIENTISTS:
*
George Washington Carver
*
Pierre Curie
*
Albert Einstein
*
Blaise Pascal
*
Booker T. Washington
STATESMEN:
*
Konrad Adenauer
*
Winston Churchill
*
Benjamin Franklin
*
Patrick Henry
*
William Penn
*
Henry Clay
U.S SUPPREME COURT JUDGES:
*
John Jay
*
John Marshall
*
John Rutledge
WRITERS:
*
Hans Christian Andersen
*
Pearl S. Buck
*
Agatha Christie
*
Charles Dickens
*
Bret Harte
*
C.S. Lewis
*
Sean O'Casey
*
George Bernard Shaw
*
Mark Twain
*
Mercy Warren
*
Daniel Webster
*
Phillis Wheatley
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION DELEGATES:
*
Richard Basset (Governor of Delaware)
*
William Blount (U.S. Senator)
*
George Clymer (U.S. Representative)
*
William Few (U.S. Senator)
*
Benjamin Franklin (Inventor and Statesman)
*
William Houston (Lawyer)
*
William S. Johnson (President of Columbia C.)
*
William Livingston (Governor of New Jersey)
*
James Madison - 4th President of the U.S.
*
George Mason
*
John Francis Mercer (U.S. Representative)
*
Charles Pickney III (Governor of S. Carolina)
*
John Rutledge (Chief Justice U.S. Supreme Court)
*
Richard D. Spaight (Governor of N. Carolina)
*
George Washington - 1st President of the U.S.
*
John Witherspoon (President of Princeton U.)
*
George Wythe (Justice of Virginia High Court)
OTHERS:
*
Abigail Adams (Wife of John Adams)
*
Ansel Adams (Photographer)
*
Clara Barton (Started the Red Cross)
*
John Burroughs (Naturalist)
*
Andrew Carnegie (Industrialist)
*
Charles Chaplin (Actor)
*
George Rogers Clark - Explorer
*
Noel Coward (Playwright)
*
John Paul Jones (Father of the American Navy)
*
Sandra Day O'Connor
*
Tamara McKinney (World Cup Skier)
*
John Stuart Mill (Economist)
*
Charles Louis Montesquieu (Philosopher)
*
Florence Nightingale (Nurse)
*
Sally Ride (Astronaut)
*
Bill Ridell (Newspaperman)
*
George Rogers Clark (Explorer)
*
Will Rogers (Humorist)
*
Jim Ryan (World Runner)
*
Albert Schweitzer (Physician)
*
Leo Tolstoy
*
Martha Washington (Wife of George Washington)
I am not sure where your list came from, but I am pretty sure Moses lived long before the idea of a formal schools were developed so it was not like he was homeschooled as a choice based on multiple options.
I believe it should be up to the parents. It isn't up to anybody else, especially ignorant jerks who like to stick their noses in other peoples' business.
If I ever have any kids, they are going to be home schooled. Between the drugs they feed kids for being energetic and the punks in schools, there is no way I would subject them to such a culture. Not to mention the sex-ed, the fact that they teach evolution (and if they are going to do that, they should at LEAST teach all of the other religions in the world). Does this mean I would leave my kid in the dark? No. I would teach them what evolution is. Everybody should be fully educated and able to make their own choices.
R.i.p. My Dad - May 28, 2007
R.i.p. Black Tail (cat) - Sept. 20, 2008