Obama insults midwest people!!!

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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    know1 wrote:
    I thought he insulted religious people more than people from the midwest and PA. In fact, those comments of his were so ignorant that I actually believe that he mis-spoke and doesn't really believe them.

    After all, it is pretty ignorant to assume that people turn to religion just because they are frustrated with the government.

    Speaking as a man of faith, there is absolutely NOTHING insulting about Obama's statements. His remarks were anything but ignorant. In fact, they very insightful. Of course people of faith turn to God when they are sad, angry upset or bitter! It is what they SHOULD do! It is, as he said, a natural reaction. A faith i can't turn to, even sometimes "cling" to, during rough spots would be completely meaningless.

    Edit to add: He wasn't suggesting people without faith suddenly adopt faith out of frustration. He was suggesting that people who have faith, cling to that faith when they are frustrated. THey DO. They SHOULD.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    know1 wrote:
    I thought he insulted religious people more than people from the midwest and PA. In fact, those comments of his were so ignorant that I actually believe that he mis-spoke and doesn't really believe them.

    After all, it is pretty ignorant to assume that people turn to religion just because they are frustrated with the government.


    actually, i'd think quite a lot of ppl turn to religion when they hit bottom or feel hopeless or overly frustrated!

    but here's what i don't get and correct me if i'm wrong b/c i don't really care about this particular issue either way so i haven't looked into it but isn't this how it happend?

    obama was asked a private function why he's not doing as good in pennsylvania and he replies (paraphrasing) 'they are bitter...they cling to their guns and religion'

    ??

    so then, isn't it safe to assume he did mean that in a negative way?

    think of it in other ways
    why did your wife leave you?
    she was bitter and clung to her guns and religion....but i mean that in a good way! ?????

    :confused:

    so, if he meant it in a positive way then doesn't that make them not supporting him the positive choice? maybe he meant it as 'they're bitter i'm just another corporate puppet who vows to bring change and reform and cling to their outdated values of guns and religion instead of my free trade scams and global monopolization and militarization'

    :D

    and yes, i believe violence, aggression and most importantly war are outdated beliefs just as i think the idea of organized religions based on exclusion and dominance are
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Yes - it was an ignorant comment from many different angles.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Spinbrett...do you realize that Illinois (the state where Obama is from) and Kansas (where Obama was raised and still has family) are in fact in the midwest?

    Get a life.
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  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    Having lived in the Midwest (rural Illinois) and Small town PA (Lancaster County) I think Obama is right on target with his comments. He fell short though, as he should have added alchohol and even meth as devices these people hold on to assuage their depression.

    If you see a generalization happen over and over again it stops being a stereotype and starts being a truth.
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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Thanks for participating Barrack. Try to work across the aisle during the McCain Administration.


    Edit: I am going to enjoy hearing people that always whine about political correctness calling for political correctness in this case.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Spinbrett wrote:
    Obama at it again. He insults people from Penn. and the midwest. Looks like he just lost even more votes. Good job Obama!
    http://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/04/12/obama-insults-small-town-in-pennsylvania/
    What he said was true....so whats the problem???
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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/14/need-headline_n_96578.html
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    cornnifer wrote:
    Speaking as a man of faith, there is absolutely NOTHING insulting about Obama's statements. His remarks were anything but ignorant. In fact, they very insightful. Of course people of faith turn to God when they are sad, angry upset or bitter! It is what they SHOULD do! It is, as he said, a natural reaction. A faith i can't turn to, even sometimes "cling" to, during rough spots would be completely meaningless.

    Edit to add: He wasn't suggesting people without faith suddenly adopt faith out of frustration. He was suggesting that people who have faith, cling to that faith when they are frustrated. THey DO. They SHOULD.

    OK - if what you are saying is true- that turning to religious faith is what people should do - then he was insulting the audience he was speaking to because he was saying it about people in PA and the midwest????

    I highly doubt he'd be putting down the audience that was in front of him at that particular function in San Fran.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    know1 wrote:
    OK - if what you are saying is true- that turning to religious faith is what people should do - then he was insulting the audience he was speaking to because he was saying it about people in PA and the midwest????

    I highly doubt he'd be putting down the audience that was in front of him at that particular function in San Fran.

    Dude, he was asked about Pennsylvannia. Just what the hell are you talking about?
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    callen wrote:
    What he said was true....so whats the problem???

    the problem is folks don't know what to do when a politician speaks the truth...

    edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIxmi3e2Vmo&eurl=http://www.samefacts.com/
  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    cornnifer wrote:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/14/need-headline_n_96578.html

    This is actually really going to hurt Clinton I think.
  • Rats of Multa
    Rats of Multa Posts: 250
    chevychase wrote:
    Religion & guns were our 2 biggest issues 240 years ago.


    too bad 'we' got them both wrong.

    this could probably be a separate topic for an entire thread, and would be googols more interesting than any of the current election horse-shit that everyone just keeps debating and going along with around here.

    so,... what are the potential and real consequences upon america's government of having callous religious views dominate her society and culture, and what influence do guns create upon the perpetuation of such consequential trends,...?

    [really, if anyone wants to restart a thread about this i am really just curious to see if and what anybody has to say here,....]
    we don’t know just where our bones will rest,
    to dust i guess,
    forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..
  • TiaMija
    TiaMija Posts: 597
    http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBJyH
  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    hopefully this will be the last nail in his political coffin, Bye Osama, sorry , meant Obama.........

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  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    Im still here wrote:
    hopefully this will be the last nail in his political coffin, Bye Osama, sorry , meant Obama.........

    Hill.........and Bill


    How's that cross burning down in Texas? I assume you are still into that?

    Osama-Obama, aren't you clever? I think Cheney is looking for a hunting partner this weekend, maybe you could join him.
  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    brandon10 wrote:
    How's that cross burning down in Texas? I assume you are still into that?

    Osama-Obama, aren't you clever? I think Cheney is looking for a hunting partner this weekend, maybe you could join him.

    havnt come down to Moving Train in awhile

    miss me, Cornnifer

    Obama doesn't have a chance in hell

    his remarks about the Middle Class is a BIG DEAL

    er Osama, I mean Obama, shit, sorry..........f^%k....... sorry, not
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  • searchlightsoul
    searchlightsoul Posts: 583
    Truth hurts.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    TiaMija wrote:
    http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBJyH


    listen to him and not the spin doctors?? he is a spin doctor!

    mr. i don't deal w/ lobbyists, i just take their campaing contriubitons and have them as the chair of my election campaign in a state or 2 ot make me my advisor....

    let's not even get into the lie that he supported progressive candidates in their elections while he campaigned for hawks like lieberman and other ppl who supported the war
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • sweetpotato
    sweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    Im still here wrote:
    havnt come down to Moving Train in awhile

    miss me, Cornnifer

    Obama doesn't have a chance in hell

    his remarks about the Middle Class is a BIG DEAL

    er Osama, I mean Obama, shit, sorry..........f^%k....... sorry, not



    how old are you? seriously, i'm - er, i mean 'im'- curious.
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