I believe that when there is a social stigma attached to something just because it's different, that it is society's responsibility to change, not the victim's.
Well yeah, in an ideal world. But one could argue that the child in this case is the victim of an overly attached mother. Like I said, it is of no real benefit past infancy anyway, so who does it really benefit? The mother or the child?
Also I have a question that no one has addressed, and I sort of got to earlier: if you go this far with breast feeding, when do you stop? In high school? when they leave for college? Like where is the line drawn? I mean in a couple years the daughter will be in puberty.
The bottom line is, it's just not necessary, and by continuing on with it to such an age seems that the parent is doing it just becasue they can. Of course the child will seem 'happy' with it, becasue they know no different - but I think it's pretty selfish behaviour for a parent to put their child in a position whereby they will be ridiculed. Of course the bullying or ridiculing is wrong, but the fact remains that in the western world breast-feeding past infancy is just not deemed appropriate, and thus there will be a reaction to that whether you like it or not. Since the nutritional aspects are only really important in the first 0-3 years, anything past that just seems pointless.
Well yeah, in an ideal world. But one could argue that the child in this case is the victim of an overly attached mother. Like I said, it is of no real benefit past infancy anyway, so who does it really benefit? The mother or the child?
The bottom line is, it's just not necessary, and by continuing on with it to such an age seems that the parent is doing it just becasue they can. Of course the child will seem 'happy' with it, becasue they know no different - but I think it's pretty selfish behaviour for a parent to put their child in a position whereby they will be ridiculed. Of course the bullying or ridiculing is wrong, but the fact remains that in the western world breast-feeding past infancy is just not deemed appropriate, and thus there will be a reaction to that whether you like it or not. Since the nutritional aspects are only really important in the first 0-3 years, anything past that just seems pointless.
The brightest children are always the ones who learn to not give a crap about being ridiculed or what everyone else thinks. It's total freedom to let go of the ego and follow your own voice.
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The brightest children are always the ones who learn to not give a crap about being ridiculed or what everyone else thinks. It's total freedom to let go of the ego and follow your own voice.
Yeah but in this case it's not 'following your own voice' is it? It's following mum's voice and her choices. Normally I would totally agree with you, but in this case, I think there is very little rationale in breast-feeding a child until such an age, when there is no significant behefit past infancy.
Yeah but in this case it's not 'following your own voice' is it? It's following mum's voice and her choices. Normally I would totally agree with you, but in this case, I think there is very little rationale in breast-feeding a child until such an age, when there is no significant behefit past infancy.
It seems to be having benefits to me. Those children seemed happy and in control of their decisions. The mother lets them choose when they are ready to give up breast milk instead of forcing them to start getting their nutrition elsewhere. Maybe those girls know or their body is telling them that breast milk is a great form of nutrition and a good way to bond with their mother? All food from other sources has been contaminated and over processed in many cases. They, in all likelihood, are doing themselves a big favor. I didn't see anyone suffering because of their choice. The children seemed bright, merry and actually confident in their choice even though they knew it wasn't the 'normal' route to take. They didn't shy away when being interviewed about it. They seemed to think it was the best stuff in the world and we are the silly ones for not seeing that. Good for them! That really struck me, usually children act shy or embarrassed when confronted about their seemingly weird or odd type behavior. These girls seemed to care less what people thought and were very confident that their choice was the right one for them. Who are we to say otherwise when there's no harm being done?
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
It seems to be having benefits to me. Those children seemed happy and in control of their decisions. The mother lets them choose when they are ready to give up breast milk instead of forcing them to start getting their nutrition elsewhere.
Oh come on the mother 'letting them choose', that's passive aggressive, like she wouldn't be bothered if they chose to give it up? It's not difficult to convince a child that something is a good idea and they have come to that decision all by themselves. You only have to look at how religious families bring up their children to see that.
Maybe those girls know or their body is telling them that breast milk is a great form of nutrition and a good way to bond with their mother?.
Well since they are like 8 years old, I highly doubt they have researched nutrition to any great extent, and I suspect it's far more likely their beliefs have been indoctrinated by their mother.
I didn't see anyone suffering because of their choice. The children seemed bright, merry and actually confident in their choice even though they knew it wasn't the 'normal' route to take. They didn't shy away when being interviewed about it. They seemed to think it was the best stuff in the world and we are the silly ones for not seeing that. Good for them! That really struck me, usually children act shy or embarrassed when confronted about their seemingly weird or odd type behavior. These girls seemed to care less what people thought and were very confident that their choice was the right one for them. Who are we to say otherwise when there's no harm being done?
Who are you to say no harm is being done? You don't know the long term effects that could have on them. Take a look at people who've been involved in cults, they often appear happy and content, despite the fact they are being abused, or brain-washed. Corrupting the mind of a child is not difficult to do, yet it can have profound effects - and like I keep saying, if it's not really necessary, why bother?
Oh come on the mother 'letting them choose', that's passive aggressive, like she wouldn't be bothered if they chose to give it up? It's not difficult to convince a child that something is a good idea and they have come to that decision all by themselves. You only have to look at how religious families bring up their children to see that.
Well since they are like 8 years old, I highly doubt they have researched nutrition to any great extent, and I suspect it's far more likely their beliefs have been indoctrinated by their mother.
Ok, so like someone else said, when is the cut off point then? Would it still be ok when they are 18 yrs old?
Who are you to say no harm is being done? You don't know the long term effects that could have on them. Take a look at people who've been involved in cults, they often appear happy and content, despite the fact they are being abused, or brain-washed. Corrupting the mind of a child is not difficult to do, yet it can have profound effects - and like I keep saying, if it's not really necessary, why bother?
Ok, you're using speculation and drawing your own conclusions here and not basing your opinion on what you know for sure. You're free to do so but there's no point for me to debate hypotheticals with you. I could comes up with just as many assumptions in support of this and it not make me any more
closer to the truth than you are. I'm only basing my opinion on what I saw in the clip. There's no need to assume the best or worse in this case when neither of us have any way to know.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Honestly that mom should be arrested for that. Not only is it gross but it is going to have negative affects on that child for her whole life.
I've seen that once before and its still shocking to me. Especially how the daughters describe it. "Better than anything in the world" said one daughter. Oh god how sick.
"They talk to my breasts", says the mom. Why do I think these girls will be looking for their mom's boobs when they have a bad day at work later in life
I thought it was pretty awesome of her to listen to her own intuition and the natural urges of her children over what society has deemed as 'normal'. To me, it speaks to following what she and her children view as the best route instead of worrying what others might think and making decisions based on that....and for that reason alone, I say good for her! Her children seemed very intelligent and balanced. I couldn't think of any harm that would come from the extended breastfeeding, so why not? They just happened to like natural forms of nourishment as opposed to the overly processed, prepackaged crap filled with chemicals and preservatives most people feed there kids without a moment's hesitation and with society's full approval.
I just LOVE it when people decide for themselves what is best for them...it's sooooo rare these days.
Ok, you're using speculation and drawing your own conclusions here and not basing your opinion on what you know for sure. You're free to do so but there's no point for me to debate hypotheticals with you. I could comes up with just as many assumptions in support of this and it not make me any more
closer to the truth than you are. I'm only basing my opinion on what I saw in the clip. There's no need to assume the best or worse in this case when neither of us have any way to know.
Ok perhaps you don't know so much about attachment parenting, so yeah I could see why you would take that from one short clip. I have seen and read far more than is in that clip, which is perhaps why I have my beliefs. Within the frame work of what I know, that video concerns me.
Personally, I think anything more than a few months is pushing it, but that being said, I think roughly when they begin to talk is when the bar should be closed.
LOL!! Well said.
And, in my opinion, I don't want a kid with teeth anywhere near my boobs.
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Well yeah, in an ideal world. But one could argue that the child in this case is the victim of an overly attached mother. Like I said, it is of no real benefit past infancy anyway, so who does it really benefit? The mother or the child?
The bottom line is, it's just not necessary, and by continuing on with it to such an age seems that the parent is doing it just becasue they can. Of course the child will seem 'happy' with it, becasue they know no different - but I think it's pretty selfish behaviour for a parent to put their child in a position whereby they will be ridiculed. Of course the bullying or ridiculing is wrong, but the fact remains that in the western world breast-feeding past infancy is just not deemed appropriate, and thus there will be a reaction to that whether you like it or not. Since the nutritional aspects are only really important in the first 0-3 years, anything past that just seems pointless.
The brightest children are always the ones who learn to not give a crap about being ridiculed or what everyone else thinks. It's total freedom to let go of the ego and follow your own voice.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Yeah but in this case it's not 'following your own voice' is it? It's following mum's voice and her choices. Normally I would totally agree with you, but in this case, I think there is very little rationale in breast-feeding a child until such an age, when there is no significant behefit past infancy.
It seems to be having benefits to me. Those children seemed happy and in control of their decisions. The mother lets them choose when they are ready to give up breast milk instead of forcing them to start getting their nutrition elsewhere. Maybe those girls know or their body is telling them that breast milk is a great form of nutrition and a good way to bond with their mother? All food from other sources has been contaminated and over processed in many cases. They, in all likelihood, are doing themselves a big favor. I didn't see anyone suffering because of their choice. The children seemed bright, merry and actually confident in their choice even though they knew it wasn't the 'normal' route to take. They didn't shy away when being interviewed about it. They seemed to think it was the best stuff in the world and we are the silly ones for not seeing that. Good for them! That really struck me, usually children act shy or embarrassed when confronted about their seemingly weird or odd type behavior. These girls seemed to care less what people thought and were very confident that their choice was the right one for them. Who are we to say otherwise when there's no harm being done?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Oh come on the mother 'letting them choose', that's passive aggressive, like she wouldn't be bothered if they chose to give it up? It's not difficult to convince a child that something is a good idea and they have come to that decision all by themselves. You only have to look at how religious families bring up their children to see that.
Well since they are like 8 years old, I highly doubt they have researched nutrition to any great extent, and I suspect it's far more likely their beliefs have been indoctrinated by their mother.
Ok, so like someone else said, when is the cut off point then? Would it still be ok when they are 18 yrs old?
Who are you to say no harm is being done? You don't know the long term effects that could have on them. Take a look at people who've been involved in cults, they often appear happy and content, despite the fact they are being abused, or brain-washed. Corrupting the mind of a child is not difficult to do, yet it can have profound effects - and like I keep saying, if it's not really necessary, why bother?
Ok, you're using speculation and drawing your own conclusions here and not basing your opinion on what you know for sure. You're free to do so but there's no point for me to debate hypotheticals with you. I could comes up with just as many assumptions in support of this and it not make me any more
closer to the truth than you are. I'm only basing my opinion on what I saw in the clip. There's no need to assume the best or worse in this case when neither of us have any way to know.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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I've seen that once before and its still shocking to me. Especially how the daughters describe it. "Better than anything in the world" said one daughter. Oh god how sick.
"They talk to my breasts", says the mom. Why do I think these girls will be looking for their mom's boobs when they have a bad day at work later in life
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Ok perhaps you don't know so much about attachment parenting, so yeah I could see why you would take that from one short clip. I have seen and read far more than is in that clip, which is perhaps why I have my beliefs. Within the frame work of what I know, that video concerns me.
LOL!! Well said.
And, in my opinion, I don't want a kid with teeth anywhere near my boobs.