Oh Obama

SpinbrettSpinbrett Posts: 251
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
Obamas church adopted the Black Value System. Only encourages growth from the black community. Imagine if a white candidate used this same system and replaced the word black with white. It would be all over the news. Here is Obamas church beliefs.
Commitment to God
Commitment to the Black Community
Commitment to the Black Family
Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.
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  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    Spinbrett wrote:
    Obamas church adopted the Black Value System. Only encourages growth from the black community. Imagine if a white candidate used this same system and replaced the word black with white. It would be all over the news. Here is Obamas church beliefs.
    Commitment to God
    Commitment to the Black Community
    Commitment to the Black Family
    Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
    Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
    Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
    Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
    Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
    Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
    Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
    Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
    Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.
    It is about helping bring his community up, not about any type of separatist activity. Look at it as more like share the weatlh.
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  • I read through that a few times. I don't see anything to worried about. Maybe it the word whitey or honky was in there somewhere. The church I belong to or beliefs are to strive towards a strong community and better family life.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,054
    Makes you wonder what they are worshipping when only 1 of the 10 or so values relate to God. Maybe it is the black community they are worshipping.
  • ryan198ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    well if I were black and believed god existed...then I'm pretty sure that I'd think that god sold me out, so I'd say that community is more important than any god.
  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    Makes you wonder what they are worshipping when only 1 of the 10 or so values relate to God. Maybe it is the black community they are worshipping.
    I am guessing The Black Value system is above and beyond actual Church activity. More like a guide on how to live your life day to day.

    If there is a God, he/she sure has given people of color, any color, the shitty end of the stick.
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  • dlymnflddlymnfld CT Posts: 923
    >Quote< "My whole life looked like a picture of a sunny day."
    Bettermanofthehour, I love that improvisation. I was at the QC show on 9/20/05 when EV sang that at the end of Not for You. Does he sing tha during any other shows?
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  • If a white candidate used the same system, he/she would be a fool. The white community isn't a minority in the population. They don't have to worry about being under-represented. This isn't something to cry "double standard!" at.
  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    Spinbrett wrote:
    Obamas church adopted the Black Value System. Only encourages growth from the black community. Imagine if a white candidate used this same system and replaced the word black with white. It would be all over the news. Here is Obamas church beliefs.
    Commitment to God
    Commitment to the Black Community
    Commitment to the Black Family
    Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
    Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
    Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
    Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
    Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
    Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
    Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
    Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
    Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.

    Why are you so sensitive and more important...

    don't look at this from the "what if a white candidate believed in this" perspective

    look at it as if you were black.... what values you would want your church (a historically black church) to promote
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Spinbrett wrote:
    Obamas church adopted the Black Value System. Only encourages growth from the black community. Imagine if a white candidate used this same system and replaced the word black with white. It would be all over the news. Here is Obamas church beliefs.
    Commitment to God
    Commitment to the Black Community
    Commitment to the Black Family
    Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
    Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
    Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
    Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
    Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
    Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
    Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
    Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
    Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.



    you just keep pulling that race card... and it doesnt work...
  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    Yeah, heaven forbid those blacks feel empowered... :rolleyes:
    It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    I heard his church eats puppies.
  • binauralsoundsbinauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    It is about helping bring his community up, not about any type of separatist activity. Look at it as more like share the weatlh.

    Yeah ok... Let a white man be in this shit and he's a racist and a biggot. Fuck all that!
  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    Yeah ok... Let a white man be in this shit and he's a racist and a biggot. Fuck all that!

    That's because society (as it is) is tailored for white people.

    We basically don't need to say "embrace the white principles of the white community," because we already are by existing and thriving in this society. And a lot of us don't even know it.
    It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,054
    DOSW wrote:
    That's because society (as it is) is tailored for white people.

    We basically don't need to say "embrace the white principles of the white community," because we already are by existing and thriving in this society. And a lot of us don't even know it.

    Sounds like Whitey has a good system in place.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,054
    PJ_Lukin wrote:
    I am guessing The Black Value system is above and beyond actual Church activity. More like a guide on how to live your life day to day.

    If there is a God, he/she sure has given people of color, any color, the shitty end of the stick.

    The church should follow the Bible's value system, not the black value system. Otherwise, it isn't a church, it is a club for black people.

    God did not give the different races any favor, people did.
  • SpinbrettSpinbrett Posts: 251
    Farrakhan said BET has been taken over by satanic Jews. So Obamas church gives him an award.

    A month before Wright presented his lifetime award to Farrakhan, this is what the Nation of Islam leader said about Black Entertainment Television (BET): “Do you know some of these satanic Jews have taken over BET. Everything that we built, they have. The mind of Satan now is running the record industry, movie industry, and television. And they make us look like we’re the murderers; we look like we’re the gangsters, but we’re punk stuff.”
  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    Sounds like Whitey has a good system in place.

    For us, yeah.
    It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    So..if Obama gets elected does this mean more BET stations?
  • SpinbrettSpinbrett Posts: 251
    according to Farrakhan....satan is now in the record industry.....wonder what his label will be "Burning Souls Records" or something like that? Wonder if Satan will try and sign PJ?
  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    Spinbrett wrote:
    Farrakhan said BET has been taken over by satanic Jews. So Obamas church gives him an award.

    A month before Wright presented his lifetime award to Farrakhan, this is what the Nation of Islam leader said about Black Entertainment Television (BET): “Do you know some of these satanic Jews have taken over BET. Everything that we built, they have. The mind of Satan now is running the record industry, movie industry, and television. And they make us look like we’re the murderers; we look like we’re the gangsters, but we’re punk stuff.”


    Everything he says but the Jews taking over BET sounds about right (And I would bet that whites have taken over BET behind the scenes if there is money to be made whites take over....)

    But there is a lot of shit in music, on TV and in the movies that is not very Christian
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Spinbrett wrote:
    according to Farrakhan....satan is now in the record industry.....wonder what his label will be "Burning Souls Records" or something like that? Wonder if Satan will try and sign PJ?
    How old are you?
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    Another worthless thread...
  • SpinbrettSpinbrett Posts: 251
    mca..its just over your head...read some political articles...it'll help you understand better
  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Spinbrett wrote:
    according to Farrakhan....satan is now in the record industry.....wonder what his label will be "Burning Souls Records" or something like that? Wonder if Satan will try and sign PJ?

    LMAO!! satan has been in the record industry for years now. and seeings how PJ are still a sony band despite hiding out at J records, i'd say satan already has signed PJ. :p:D
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Makes you wonder what they are worshipping when only 1 of the 10 or so values relate to God. Maybe it is the black community they are worshipping.
    Why is it so hard for you to believe that being 'unashamedly black' does not mean being 'anti-white.

    Some of the comments in this thread make me sick.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    my2hands wrote:
    you just keep pulling that race card... and it doesnt work...
    Exactly.... and it's sickening. Sometimes, i swear, it's like time has not changed for some of the racist people that post here.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Exactly.... and it's sickening. Sometimes, i swear, it's like time has not changed for some of the racist people that post here.
    So if we dont vote for Obama were racist?
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Nevermind wrote:
    So if we dont vote for Obama were racist?
    Did i say that? NO.

    Don't put words in my mouth. My comment was purely directed at the people who are continuing to make racists comments.
    I don't give a rats ass who you vote for.

    So, hopefully that answers your question.

    People who don't vote for Obama are not racist and i never insinuated that they were.

    Happy??
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