Enough with this Minister crap. I watched this guy for a good two hours over the last day or so. This guy is an activist/agitator/punk in a robe. This guy is seriously angry and he did more than make fun of JFK. He mocked an awful lot of, mostly white, people.
If you had a single neron firing you would recognize that reverend Wright was not "making fun" of JFK. He was pointing out an obvious double standard in the way people are judged. When white folks speak in a cultural manner that sounds a bit funny its called an accent. When blacks folks speak in a cultural manner its called ebonics and is a sure sign of unintelligence. THAT was the point. He wasn't "making fun" of JFK. What other horrible things did he say? Let me see... Oh , yeah, Black kids and white come from differnt cultural backgrounds and historical experiences and therefore may have different learning styles. OMFG!!! No he didn't! The crazy ass white hating bigot! i can't fucking believe it! Imagine the nerve of that guy! And that Obama character is a racist bigot by association. Boy that fucking Obama really had me fooled! :rolleyes:
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
I personally don't care about Mr. Wright but when he said that and please forgive me for not quoting that Obama was saying what he said he was doing it because he is running an election is sad. if that is the case then what can be said about Obama. i think Obama has to come out becuase even thought it is really of no importance in the grand sceme of things poeple care about it.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
First of all, i'm a Barack Obama supporter. Now that thats out of the way:
I can't believe some of you are actually defending Rev. Wright's comments. I don't care what context these particular comments were taken out of. The man is full of hate and bitterness. I have no doubt that he's done great things for Chicago and the least forunate among us but, the man's tone is hateful. What bothers me most, these were obviously not one off comments, I think over the past few days, he's made his point very clear, in a VERY arrogant way I might add. It's unfortunate that kids have to hear this growing up in CHURCH of all places. I find it HUMEROUS that Rev. Wright speaks out against racism as being a major problem (which it is) but, he's CONTRIBUTING to it. People like him are RESPONSIBLE for it.
First of all, i'm a Barack Obama supporter. Now that thats out of the way:
I can't believe some of you are actually defending Rev. Wright's comments. I don't care what context these particular comments were taken out of. The man is full of hate and bitterness. I have no doubt that he's done great things for Chicago and the least forunate among us but, the man's tone is hateful. What bothers me most, these were obviously not one off comments, I think over the past few days, he's made his point very clear, in a VERY arrogant way I might add. It's unfortunate that kids have to hear this growing up in CHURCH of all places. I find it HUMEROUS that Rev. Wright speaks out against racism as being a major problem (which it is) but, he's CONTRIBUTING to it. People like him are RESPONSIBLE for it.
Not being confrontational or argumentative, just conversational, what remarks are you referring to as "hateful" or "racist"? i hear none of that. i just don't. i'll open it up to anyone else. What has he said that is "full of hate" or racist?
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Not being confrontational or argumentative, just conversational, what remarks are you referring to as "hateful" or "racist"? i hear none of that. i just don't. i'll open it up to anyone else. What has he said that is "full of hate" or racist?
he referred to america as the KKK of A, told his black congregation they were fighting the wrong enemy when referring to black on black crime, white man this white man that. I could go on, I'm guessing you never even bothered to read or listen to anything he has said.
Some of those early clips had him saying that the white man introduced AIDS into the black population to perform genocide, and that the white man brought drugs into the black community so they could jail the adult male population.
Here's the latest from Obama (taken from MSNBC's website):
"I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle that we saw yesterday," Obama told reporters at a news conference.
It is funny that Obama supporters are still trying to pretend that Wright is a good guy even when Obama has bailed.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Some of those early clips had him saying that the white man introduced AIDS into the black population to perform genocide, and that the white man brought drugs into the black community so they could jail the adult male population.
Here's the latest from Obama (taken from MSNBC's website):
It is funny that Obama supporters are still trying to pretend that Wright is a good guy even when Obama has bailed.
yeah, wright is great, yeah...that's it...
it's also funny who mcbush supporters (not saying you're one) ignore his relationship with Pastor John Hagee...
it's also funny who mcbush supporters (not saying you're one) ignore his relationship with Pastor John Hagee...
I'm a mccain supporter and how is this similar? mccain doesnt go to his church, doesn't seek his advice, isn't his spiritual adviser for 20+ years. mccain used him to weasel a few votes. BFD.
it's also funny who mcbush supporters (not saying you're one) ignore his relationship with Pastor John Hagee...
I agree with you about Hagee. That guy is a fruitloop.
I just saw the thread you posted which you prefaced with "finally..." and I agree. I'm glad to see Obama coming around and directly denouncing Wright, rather than trying to explain him. Wright is off his rocker, and is not doing Obama any favors by continuing to run his mouth.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
I'm a mccain supporter and how is this similar? mccain doesnt go to his church, doesn't seek his advice, isn't his spiritual adviser for 20+ years. mccain used him to weasel a few votes. BFD.
if you don't see it as "similar" I can't help you...
I agree with you about Hagee. That guy is a fruitloop.
I just saw the thread you posted which you prefaced with "finally..." and I agree. I'm glad to see Obama coming around and directly denouncing Wright, rather than trying to explain him. Wright is off his rocker, and is not doing Obama any favors by continuing to run his mouth.
Wright is hateful and full of that hate; that's not an opinion, his verbage speaks for itself.
Apparently Wright wants John McCain to be the next President of the United States.
Wright apparently thinks it's more important to magnify himself and the fact that he can speak 5 languages and dance a jig at the same time than it is to lessen the inevitable damage he continues to do to his dear friend's attempt to be something the likes of which this country has never seen before.
Roll on Reverend Wright with your Magical Mystery Tour.
Not being confrontational or argumentative, just conversational, what remarks are you referring to as "hateful" or "racist"? i hear none of that. i just don't. i'll open it up to anyone else. What has he said that is "full of hate" or racist?
Are you serious? Even if one argues that his comments are not driven by racism (a weak argument, most likely), the guy is inflammatory, ignorant, paranoid, and just plain into crazy-making. What he does is not healthy.
Why are all the worst people in America Reverends?
Rev. Jesse Jackson
Rev. Pat Robertson
Rev. Al Sharpton
Rev. Jerry Falwell
Rev. Ted Haggert
Why don't we (Americans) finally come to the conclusion that anyone who is a Reverend is basically, a psycho and we need to STOP listening to what their opinions are?
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Hail, Hail!!!
Now that every major news organization AND your Chief Robot have denounced Wright will all of you who vociferously defended Rev Wright now eat some crow please. What a Patriot! Wonder what those SUPER delegates are thinking now?? Oooops maybe?
nice debating skills. I just gave you 3 examples about the level of similarity. if you can't read, I cant help you. good luck
Your examples were dead on.
The thing is, faith is not a cut and dried issue.
You can be a devout Christian who occassionally disagrees with your pastor.
I think Obama values loyalty highly, maybe too much.
It makes me like him more not less, though I think he will get smarter/jaded as they all do.
None of us operate from a singular motive.
"A lie travels half-way around the world
before the truth can even gets its boots on to get out the door."
If you had a single neron firing you would recognize that reverend Wright was not "making fun" of JFK. He was pointing out an obvious double standard in the way people are judged. When white folks speak in a cultural manner that sounds a bit funny its called an accent. When blacks folks speak in a cultural manner its called ebonics and is a sure sign of unintelligence. THAT was the point. He wasn't "making fun" of JFK. What other horrible things did he say? Let me see... Oh , yeah, Black kids and white come from differnt cultural backgrounds and historical experiences and therefore may have different learning styles. OMFG!!! No he didn't! The crazy ass white hating bigot! i can't fucking believe it! Imagine the nerve of that guy! And that Obama character is a racist bigot by association. Boy that fucking Obama really had me fooled! :rolleyes:
Listen you mindless tool I watched the whole speech. Im sure you saw only the soundbites. Maybe it's time to do a little re-thinking. Or how about just some original thinking. He did in fact mock JFK and alot of other mostly white people in his speech. I understood his context, but the speech came off as totally offensive, totally racist, yes racist, and extremely rude. If anyone in the White community as prominent as Reverend Wright went public and mocked or even appeared to make fun of an African American voice or tone or inflection or whatever you want to call it, the Black community would have gone absolutely apeshit and you know it. You can't have it both ways. If you are going to continue to play the race card, then it works both ways and from what I saw that man is a hater and Obama himself admitted it. Wake up.
If you had a single neron firing you would recognize that reverend Wright was not "making fun" of JFK. He was pointing out an obvious double standard in the way people are judged. When white folks speak in a cultural manner that sounds a bit funny its called an accent. When blacks folks speak in a cultural manner its called ebonics and is a sure sign of unintelligence. THAT was the point. He wasn't "making fun" of JFK. What other horrible things did he say? Let me see... Oh , yeah, Black kids and white come from differnt cultural backgrounds and historical experiences and therefore may have different learning styles. OMFG!!! No he didn't! The crazy ass white hating bigot! i can't fucking believe it! Imagine the nerve of that guy! And that Obama character is a racist bigot by association. Boy that fucking Obama really had me fooled! :rolleyes:
Now that every major news organization AND your Chief Robot have denounced Wright will all of you who vociferously defended Rev Wright now eat some crow please. What a Patriot! Wonder what those SUPER delegates are thinking now?? Oooops maybe?
Some of those early clips had him saying that the white man introduced AIDS into the black population to perform genocide, and that the white man brought drugs into the black community so they could jail the adult male population.
Here's the latest from Obama (taken from MSNBC's website):
It is funny that Obama supporters are still trying to pretend that Wright is a good guy even when Obama has bailed.
I'm not an Obama supporter, and I'm not about to judge Wright, although I do agree with a lot of his so-called "controversial" remarks. Especially when you read or hear them in context.
Even his comment you mention above about bringing drugs into the black community has merit IMO.
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If you had a single neron firing you would recognize that reverend Wright was not "making fun" of JFK. He was pointing out an obvious double standard in the way people are judged. When white folks speak in a cultural manner that sounds a bit funny its called an accent. When blacks folks speak in a cultural manner its called ebonics and is a sure sign of unintelligence. THAT was the point. He wasn't "making fun" of JFK. What other horrible things did he say? Let me see... Oh , yeah, Black kids and white come from differnt cultural backgrounds and historical experiences and therefore may have different learning styles. OMFG!!! No he didn't! The crazy ass white hating bigot! i can't fucking believe it! Imagine the nerve of that guy! And that Obama character is a racist bigot by association. Boy that fucking Obama really had me fooled! :rolleyes:
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
I can't believe some of you are actually defending Rev. Wright's comments. I don't care what context these particular comments were taken out of. The man is full of hate and bitterness. I have no doubt that he's done great things for Chicago and the least forunate among us but, the man's tone is hateful. What bothers me most, these were obviously not one off comments, I think over the past few days, he's made his point very clear, in a VERY arrogant way I might add. It's unfortunate that kids have to hear this growing up in CHURCH of all places. I find it HUMEROUS that Rev. Wright speaks out against racism as being a major problem (which it is) but, he's CONTRIBUTING to it. People like him are RESPONSIBLE for it.
Not being confrontational or argumentative, just conversational, what remarks are you referring to as "hateful" or "racist"? i hear none of that. i just don't. i'll open it up to anyone else. What has he said that is "full of hate" or racist?
but I thought I was jlew? :rolleyes:
he referred to america as the KKK of A, told his black congregation they were fighting the wrong enemy when referring to black on black crime, white man this white man that. I could go on, I'm guessing you never even bothered to read or listen to anything he has said.
Here's the latest from Obama (taken from MSNBC's website):
It is funny that Obama supporters are still trying to pretend that Wright is a good guy even when Obama has bailed.
yeah, wright is great, yeah...that's it...
it's also funny who mcbush supporters (not saying you're one) ignore his relationship with Pastor John Hagee...
I'm a mccain supporter and how is this similar? mccain doesnt go to his church, doesn't seek his advice, isn't his spiritual adviser for 20+ years. mccain used him to weasel a few votes. BFD.
I agree with you about Hagee. That guy is a fruitloop.
I just saw the thread you posted which you prefaced with "finally..." and I agree. I'm glad to see Obama coming around and directly denouncing Wright, rather than trying to explain him. Wright is off his rocker, and is not doing Obama any favors by continuing to run his mouth.
if you don't see it as "similar" I can't help you...
good luck...
a-men...
nice debating skills. I just gave you 3 examples about the level of similarity. if you can't read, I cant help you. good luck
Wright is an idiot.
Wright is hateful and full of that hate; that's not an opinion, his verbage speaks for itself.
Apparently Wright wants John McCain to be the next President of the United States.
Wright apparently thinks it's more important to magnify himself and the fact that he can speak 5 languages and dance a jig at the same time than it is to lessen the inevitable damage he continues to do to his dear friend's attempt to be something the likes of which this country has never seen before.
Roll on Reverend Wright with your Magical Mystery Tour.
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no, but I find it funny that you, and others, claim every new member to be that person. what a joke.
Are you serious? Even if one argues that his comments are not driven by racism (a weak argument, most likely), the guy is inflammatory, ignorant, paranoid, and just plain into crazy-making. What he does is not healthy.
Rev. Jesse Jackson
Rev. Pat Robertson
Rev. Al Sharpton
Rev. Jerry Falwell
Rev. Ted Haggert
Why don't we (Americans) finally come to the conclusion that anyone who is a Reverend is basically, a psycho and we need to STOP listening to what their opinions are?
Hail, Hail!!!
Your examples were dead on.
The thing is, faith is not a cut and dried issue.
You can be a devout Christian who occassionally disagrees with your pastor.
I think Obama values loyalty highly, maybe too much.
It makes me like him more not less, though I think he will get smarter/jaded as they all do.
"A lie travels half-way around the world
before the truth can even gets its boots on to get out the door."
-Mark Twain
Cant wait to see what this guy has to say now...
Listen you mindless tool I watched the whole speech. Im sure you saw only the soundbites. Maybe it's time to do a little re-thinking. Or how about just some original thinking. He did in fact mock JFK and alot of other mostly white people in his speech. I understood his context, but the speech came off as totally offensive, totally racist, yes racist, and extremely rude. If anyone in the White community as prominent as Reverend Wright went public and mocked or even appeared to make fun of an African American voice or tone or inflection or whatever you want to call it, the Black community would have gone absolutely apeshit and you know it. You can't have it both ways. If you are going to continue to play the race card, then it works both ways and from what I saw that man is a hater and Obama himself admitted it. Wake up.
They are NEURONS
what are you talking about...?
Even his comment you mention above about bringing drugs into the black community has merit IMO.