enough with the demagogy!

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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    shiraz wrote:
    Hamas is a terror organization, hence, its people are terrorists, but I guess you can't find the logic to understand that simple fact.

    so b/c hamas has, what, a 1/3 or less of the seats, it means all of them are terrorists now by default??
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    El_Kabong wrote:
    you are wrong...if he was talking about supporting israel why did he say things like 'we need to tell the un and the rest of the world to fight or get the hell out of the way b/c WE will'? he is american, not israeli.

    why did he say it's for OUR children's future and not ISRAELS childrens future?

    you seem to be the one who has it wrong

    Because the UN doesn't really want to get its Int armed forces to Southern Lebanon at the moment, and if they had done what they should had done 6 years ago, this whole thing wouldn't had happened.

    The last question of yours just shows how narrow your point of view is, so I'm not even gonna bother to answer it.
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    El_Kabong wrote:
    so b/c hamas has, what, a 1/3 or less of the seats, it means all of them are terrorists now by default??

    Hamas was elected via 80% of the voters, they are in the lead. It is also a well recognized terror organization who does not believe in Israel right to exist, hence, all of its members are terrorists. One who is planing a terror attack = one who is performing it.
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    And here we go again, the man who took that picture (Adnan Hage) was proven to fake more pictures since the war had started.

    fake:
    http://www.ynet.co.il/PicServer2/20122005/857867/1l_wa.jpg

    picture of after-night Israeli attacks in Beriut on 5/8, after Nasrallah promised he would bomb Tel Aviv if we attack Beirut (fake)

    http://www.ynet.co.il/PicServer2/20122005/857802/LBN02_wa.jpg

    The original picture of the same location on 22/7 - 2 weeks before the above.

    http://www.ynet.co.il/PicServer2/20122005/857875/r335112767_wa.jpg


    Still thinking all of the media is pro-Israeli? well, think again.
  • shiraz wrote:
    And here we go again, the man who took that picture (Adnan Hage) was proven to fake more pictures since the war had started.

    fake:
    http://www.ynet.co.il/PicServer2/20122005/857867/1l_wa.jpg

    picture of after-night Israeli attacks in Beriut on 5/8, after Nasrallah promised he would bomb Tel Aviv if we attack Beirut (fake)

    http://www.ynet.co.il/PicServer2/20122005/857802/LBN02_wa.jpg

    The original picture of the same location on 22/7 - 2 weeks before the above.

    http://www.ynet.co.il/PicServer2/20122005/857875/r335112767_wa.jpg


    Still thinking all of the media is pro-Israeli? well, think again.

    medias or one photographers?

    BTW, If you guys believe CNN are left wing or Liberal, then our medias in Canada are definitly communist hippy radical left wing... i mean CNN liberal??? What a joke...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    medias or one photographers?
    shiraz wrote:
    Still thinking all of the media is pro-Israeli?

    I'm a good girl, unlike others in that board.
    *edit: the photos are printed in newspapers, the photo-editors should notice something is wrong.
    BTW, If you guys believe CNN are left wing or Liberal, then our medias in Canada are definitly communist hippy radical left wing... i mean CNN liberal??? What a joke...

    I've said: It is wrong to accuse the whole network because of one reporter's point of view, and it is wrong to put such title when that specific reporter didn't really push anyone to have a war against Iran - that's it.

    For the record, I don't even watch CNN.
  • shiraz wrote:
    medias or one photographers?



    I'm a good girl, unlike others in that board.
    *edit: the photos are printed in newspapers, the photo-editors should notice something is wrong.



    I've said: It is wrong to accuse the whole network because of one reporter's point of view, and it is wrong to put such title when that specific reporter didn't really push anyone to have a war against Iran - that's it.

    For the record, I don't even watch CNN.

    CNN part is not directed at you and i know you're a good girl...

    Editors buys pictures from Reuters because they think it's a reliable sources, now i guess Reuters will have to suffer from these fakes, but anyway, there's nothing to defend here, medias are medias, they were all approving the invasion of Irak showing pictures of supposed missile launchers and biological weapons from sattelites, these pictures all proved to be wrong, so it's not like if it's a first time, they're not anti-Israel or anti-Arabs, they're pro-sensationalism... which sucks...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • dayan
    dayan Posts: 475
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Shiraz, I want to see if you can go a whole week without using the word 'demagogy'. Go on, surprise me! ;)

    How about you go a whole week without saying something bad about Israel?
  • dayan
    dayan Posts: 475
    shiraz wrote:

    CNN part is not directed at you and i know you're a good girl...

    Editors buys pictures from Reuters because they think it's a reliable sources, now i guess Reuters will have to suffer from these fakes, but anyway, there's nothing to defend here, medias are medias, they were all approving the invasion of Irak showing pictures of supposed missile launchers and biological weapons from sattelites, these pictures all proved to be wrong, so it's not like if it's a first time, they're not anti-Israel or anti-Arabs, they're pro-sensationalism... which sucks...

    But in this particular case their pro-sensationalism comes out to practically the same thing as if they were biased against Israel. There is a great article on the topic on the national review website. It's written by Noah Pollack, and it's called "Video Made the Terrorist Star." Read it if you want an explanation of what I mean. If you don't read it please don't just tell me I'm wrong cause you don't know what I mean.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    shiraz wrote:
    medias or one photographers?



    I'm a good girl, unlike others in that board.
    *edit: the photos are printed in newspapers, the photo-editors should notice something is wrong.



    I've said: It is wrong to accuse the whole network because of one reporter's point of view, and it is wrong to put such title when that specific reporter didn't really push anyone to have a war against Iran - that's it.

    For the record, I don't even watch CNN.


    he DID push for war, he did so again last night, too.

    also, it's funny you originally accused me of being demagogic towards the israeli kids and the pics of them signing bombs...after repeatedly asking you which thread titles i did this in after about the 10th time you replied but none of them had anything to do w/ israeli kids signing bombs...so are you saying you were wrong? :)
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    dayan wrote:
    How about you go a whole week without saying something bad about Israel?

    I just did.