this is insane

shiraz
shiraz Posts: 528
edited August 2006 in A Moving Train
The Lebanese govt is insisting about these sheeba farms, a territory which doesn't belong to them. This is the only disputed issue, and it is clearly a Hizbullah interest. Once again, Lebanon acts as if it cares more about a group of terrorists than its own civilians. Israel accepted all terms, even the fact that Hizbullah will not be disarmed at the moment (though there is a UN resolution about that matter since 2000).

We can't give them a Syrian territory, the UN acknowledges that, the world acknowledges that, even Lebanon acknowledges that but it is still trying to defend Hizbullah's interests. Do you realize what's going on? Its like they'll demand the Palestinian areas for themselfs, those impotent bastards are blocking the cease-fire for the sake of Hizbullah!

And the Russians... What the hell is wrong with them? They decided its better to have a 72 hours of cease-fire, than have an agreement for ending it all (?!?). They're gonna oppose the US-France draft and bring their own draft. cause they want to defend their great weapons consumers: Iran + Syria (= Hizbullah).

God, this is insane, I want my life back!
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    shiraz wrote:
    The Lebanese govt is insisting about these sheeba farms, a territory which doesn't belong to them. This is the only disputed issue, and it is clearly a Hizbullah interest. Once again, Lebanon acts as if it cares more about a group of terrorists than its own civilians. Israel accepted all terms, even the fact that Hizbullah will not be disarmed at the moment (though there is a UN resolution about that matter since 2000).

    We can't give them a Syrian territory, the UN acknowledges that, the world acknowledges that, even Lebanon acknowledges that but it is still trying to defend Hizbullah's interests. Do you realize what's going on? Its like they'll demand the Palestinian areas for themselfs, those impotent bastards are blocking the cease-fire for the sake of Hizbullah!

    And the Russians... What the hell is wrong with them? They decided its better to have a 72 hours of cease-fire, than have an agreement for ending it all (?!?). They're gonna oppose the US-France draft and bring their own draft. cause they want to defend their great weapons consumers: Iran + Syria (= Hizbullah).

    God, this is insane, I want my life back!

    Ok, so give it to Syria, problem solved.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • ladygooddiva
    ladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Ok, so give it to Syria, problem solved.


    if this is so easy than it would have done but it ain´t...
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    ladygooddiva wrote:
    if this is so easy than it would have done but it ain´t...

    Why? Is there Israeli settlements there aswell?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • ladygooddiva
    ladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Why? Is there Israeli settlements there aswell?


    i meant the whole region stuff but nevermind ...it´s never that easy as it seems
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    shiraz wrote:
    Israel accepted all terms, even the fact that Hizbullah will not be disarmed at the moment (though there is a UN resolution about that matter since 2000).


    And you neglact to mention that part of those terms is that Israel gets to remain in southern Lebanon.
    As far as U.N resolutions go, Israel really isn't in a position to point the finger at those who are in breach of them are they? The Israeli's are currently in violation of over 60 resolutions.
    Anyway, onwards and upwards! (Or downwards, depending on which side of the fence your on.)
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    Local media has just reported Hizbullah decided to refuse to have an armed UNIFIL & French forces, and Lebanon's prime minister Siniora said his govt is about to "fall down" out of this decision. That means once again, Hizbullah is about to get a non-armed force to "control" them. I don't know if Iseal is about to agree with that, cause we all know what happen the last time no one could supervise Hizbullah - that current war.
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    It's official - the UN = a bunch of losers. The new draft basically puts me & ruud's life into Hizbullah's hands. There's no armed forces who'll have the right to inforce anything, just 15,000 supervisors with no military authority. Once again, the UN cares more about Hizbullah than the Israeli & Lebanese civilians. The supervisors thing didn't worked out for the last 6 years, in fact, look where it brought us! This is it, this is their solution?!? we've been suffering for such a long time only to get the same old useless thing?!? For god sake, this whole shit will happen again in about 3 years, if we're lucky!

    What is wrong with them?!? civilians should be their first priority!
  • ladygooddiva
    ladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    What is wrong with them?!? civilians should be their first priority!

    off course ....but what is right what is wrong ...do you want to answer that ...
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Ok, so give it to Syria, problem solved.

    That's like you coming into my home and proclaiming the loudspeakers (I already own) are now mine, as a gift from you to me.:D

    ..and by the way....Thank you for the fine gift! You have great taste in loudspeakers:D
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Oh ...and I'm glad to see Lebanon and Hizbullah are indeed for peace:rolleyes:


    What a disgrace.
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    ladygooddiva wrote:
    What is wrong with them?!? civilians should be their first priority!

    off course ....but what is right what is wrong ...do you want to answer that ...

    The whole point was to send an armed force who can control Hizbullah with the help of the Lebanese army, the new resolution is saying an "army" of supervisors will enter southern Lebanon, which is the same thing that brought us back to where we are in the first place. Hizbullah need to be controled for the sake of the Lebanese & Israeli civilians, or else they'll attack again in a short period of time and this whole horrible story will repeat itself.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    shiraz wrote:
    The whole point was to send an armed force who can control Hizbullah with the help of the Lebanese army, the new resolution is saying an "army" of supervisors will enter southern Lebanon, which is the same thing that brought us back to where we are in the first place. Hizbullah need to be controled for the sake of the Lebanese & Israeli civilians, or else they'll attack again in a short period of time and this whole horrible story will repeat itself.


    Wonder who this "army of Supervisors would be? Wonder who Lebanon and Hizbullah have in mind? :rolleyes:
  • ladygooddiva
    ladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    Hizbullah need to be controled...any succesions how?
    i myself don´t know the answer .
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    ladygooddiva wrote:
    Hizbullah need to be controled...any succesions how?
    i myself don´t know the answer .

    How about trying some NEW solutions, like an armed UNIFIL and french force who can act via military ways against Hizbullah in time of need? How about not recycling old solutions which was proven to be useless?

    My only hope is these supervisors & UNIFIL will get some military authority, or else this war will escalate.
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    shiraz wrote:
    The Lebanese govt is insisting about these sheeba farms, a territory which doesn't belong to them. This is the only disputed issue, and it is clearly a Hizbullah interest. Once again, Lebanon acts as if it cares more about a group of terrorists than its own civilians. Israel accepted all terms, even the fact that Hizbullah will not be disarmed at the moment (though there is a UN resolution about that matter since 2000).

    We can't give them a Syrian territory, the UN acknowledges that, the world acknowledges that, even Lebanon acknowledges that but it is still trying to defend Hizbullah's interests. Do you realize what's going on? Its like they'll demand the Palestinian areas for themselfs, those impotent bastards are blocking the cease-fire for the sake of Hizbullah!

    And the Russians... What the hell is wrong with them? They decided its better to have a 72 hours of cease-fire, than have an agreement for ending it all (?!?). They're gonna oppose the US-France draft and bring their own draft. cause they want to defend their great weapons consumers: Iran + Syria (= Hizbullah).

    God, this is insane, I want my life back!
    I'm so sick of people using the word "terrorist." Hezbollah are no more terrorists than Israel or Iran or the U.S. It's a fucking joke that's gotten way out of hand. Hezbollah are part of Lebanon, you know that. They play active roles in the community and take care of the Lebanese people. Of course Lebanon cares about what they want. Plus, I think you're assuming that Sheeba Farms is only a Hezbollah interest. It should be between Lebanon and Syria, end of story.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    don't gimme no wrote:
    Plus, I think you're assuming that Sheeba Farms is only a Hezbollah interest

    No she wasn't. Not at all.

    don't gimme no wrote:
    It should be between Lebanon and Syria, end of story.

    THAT was her point, to begin with.
  • ladygooddiva
    ladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    shiraz wrote:
    How about trying some NEW solutions, like an armed UNIFIL and french force who can act via military ways against Hizbullah in time of need? How about not recycling old solutions which was proven to be useless?



    My only hope is these supervisors & UNIFIL will get some military authority, or else this war will escalate.

    i think the first step is to disarm them ....or to do a ceasefire

    and than talk ...maybe ...

    i think it´s near by to escalate if nobody finds a good way or sollution that will cool down the whole region ...but than we need all parties to accept
    the solutions ...
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    NMyTree wrote:
    No she wasn't. Not at all.
    Well that's how I read it.
    NMyTree wrote:
    THAT was her point, to begin with.
    Well, Hezbollah is part of Lebanon. Deal with it.
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    NMyTree wrote:
    No she wasn't. Not at all.




    THAT was her point, to begin with.

    Thank you, I'm sick of people who keep on saying Hizbullah is taking care of the Lebanese people, mainly after Ruud (the Lebanese civilian who is posting here) make it very clear this is a false impression.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4785001.stm

    This link is the latest about the new draft.
  • dayan
    dayan Posts: 475
    don't gimme no wrote:
    I'm so sick of people using the word "terrorist." Hezbollah are no more terrorists than Israel or Iran or the U.S. It's a fucking joke that's gotten way out of hand. Hezbollah are part of Lebanon, you know that. They play active roles in the community and take care of the Lebanese people. Of course Lebanon cares about what they want. Plus, I think you're assuming that Sheeba Farms is only a Hezbollah interest. It should be between Lebanon and Syria, end of story.

    They are terrorists. They kill innocent civilians with intent and terrorize another country. They are not the Lebanese army. Yes there are other aspects to the organization, but that doesn't make them any less terrorists, it only makes them more complex terrorists.

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