So... you think we evolved totally independently of other animals?
Then it's just coincidence that we have so many analogous traits?
and i can find many analogus traits connecting humans with buffalo as i look out my window. from oral sex to the way they care for their young. the way the herd is a "community" that watches out for the others just like humans used to do. the alpha cow is the "president" and the alpha bull is the judicial system. the bulls will fight with eachother for power and also for females. just as humans will. i can go on and on if you like. but that is the basic DNA that we all share. we share DNA markers with buffalo. we also share DNA markers with plants. are we closer to primates than any other animal? perhaps. is a golden retriever closer to a coyote than any other animal? perhaps. but a golden retriever is still a golden retriever and not a coyote.
we evolved independently of others with common building blocks.
and i can find many analogus traits connecting humans with buffalo as i look out my window. from oral sex to the way they care for their young. the way the herd is a "community" that watches out for the others just like humans used to do. the alpha cow is the "president" and the alpha bull is the judicial system. the bulls will fight with eachother for power and also for females. just as humans will. i can go on and on if you like. but that is the basic DNA that we all share. we share DNA markers with buffalo. we also share DNA markers with plants. are we closer to primates than any other animal? perhaps. is a golden retriever closer to a coyote than any other animal? perhaps. but a golden retriever is still a golden retriever and not a coyote.
we evolved independently of others with common building blocks.
Right, but geneticists claim we evolved along the same tree as Bonobos and diverged from them a short time ago. Are you suggesting this isn't true? That we never shared a common ancestry with Bonobos or mice?
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Right, but geneticists claim we evolved along the same tree as Bonobos and diverged from them a short time ago. Are you suggesting this isn't true? That we never shared a common ancestry with Bonobos or mice?
we share DNA ancestry with every living thing. life started in the oceans. first algea; from that single celled creatures; and from this ocean of DNA building blocks; different DNA attached to different single celled creatures.
doesn't cloning prove this? you can remove primate DNA from a primate egg; add human DNA; and create a human. this does not mean we come from primates; it means human DNA replaced the primate DNA.
so; to get a human from a primate we must first remove the primate DNA and REPLACE IT with human DNA.
(in this case; i'm using the word primate to mean monkey. i know humans are primates.)
we share DNA ancestry with every living thing. life started in the oceans. first algea; from that single celled creatures; and from this ocean of DNA building blocks; different DNA attached to different single celled creatures.
doesn't cloning prove this? you can remove primate DNA from a primate egg; add human DNA; and create a human. this does not mean we come from primates; it means human DNA replaced the primate DNA.
so; to get a human from a primate we must first remove the primate DNA and REPLACE IT with human DNA.
(in this case; i'm using the word primate to mean monkey. i know humans are primates.)
I don't understand your objection to the ascent of humans. I understand what you are saying about DNA, but I don't see how separate ancestries follow from that.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I don't understand your objection to the ascent of humans. I understand what you are saying about DNA, but I don't see how separate ancestries follow from that.
can i have a rain check on the explaination? i had my afternoon morphine an hour ago and i'd rather wait until i was thinking more clearly. i'd really like to debate this theory with you because i think it would be very interesting. at the moment; i can't remember where i first read it. when i'm feeling a bit better; i'll get my sh*t together and we can discuss this. please forgive me.
can i have a rain check on the explaination? i had my afternoon morphine an hour ago and i'd rather wait until i was thinking more clearly. i'd really like to debate this theory with you because i think it would be very interesting. at the moment; i can't remember where i first read it. when i'm feeling a bit better; i'll get my sh*t together and we can discuss this. please forgive me.
No problem OLS. Make sure you take that morphine in your usual environment.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
No problem OLS. Make sure you take that morphine in your usual environment.
thanks. i have to take it 3 times a day at the same time. it's never a good sign when they put you on morphine. surgery is the 26th so hopefully things will go well. i look forward to a good debate. i miss locking horns with you.
Well, I don't think any of the other mammalians do. Other than humans.
Also, it is the female bonobo that decides who gets what in that sexual (non-violent society.) It isn't control so much, from what I've read, as it is harmony. If tensions need subsiding, the lead female is a decider. Sometimes she just goes off and masturbates.
I think you'll find most mammals do. Female hyenas have a huge one. Bigger than the male's penis, and they have to give birth through it. Seriously. I'm not making it up. Google it.
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I think you'll find most mammals do. Female hyenas have a huge one. Bigger than the male's penis, and they have to give birth through it. Seriously. I'm not making it up. Google it.
Googled!
Pseudo-penis
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Female spotted hyenas have pseudo-penises, which may function as a social signal.A pseudo-penis is a term used of any structure found on an animal that while superficially appearing to be a penis, is derived from a different developmental path.
Mammals
In mammals, all intact developmentally typical males have a penis, but the clitoris in the females of the following species is sufficiently enlarged that it is usually termed a pseudo-penis: spotted hyena,[1] squirrel monkey, lemur, and binturong.[2] The labia of the spider monkey are elongated and may be similarly confused during display.
The mammalian pseudo-penis appears to be simply for display, although the hyena is an exception: erection of the penis (which is voluntary in both sexes) is certainly a display of submission in both male and female spotted hyena, but the female hyena additionally uses her pseudo-penis for urination, copulation, and childbirth. In addition, this make it difficult for males to mate without the full cooperation of females, which helps the female dominated society of spotted hyenas to eliminate forced sex. [3]
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Pseudo-penis
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Female spotted hyenas have pseudo-penises, which may function as a social signal.A pseudo-penis is a term used of any structure found on an animal that while superficially appearing to be a penis, is derived from a different developmental path.
Mammals
In mammals, all intact developmentally typical males have a penis, but the clitoris in the females of the following species is sufficiently enlarged that it is usually termed a pseudo-penis: spotted hyena,[1] squirrel monkey, lemur, and binturong.[2] The labia of the spider monkey are elongated and may be similarly confused during display.
The mammalian pseudo-penis appears to be simply for display, although the hyena is an exception: erection of the penis (which is voluntary in both sexes) is certainly a display of submission in both male and female spotted hyena, but the female hyena additionally uses her pseudo-penis for urination, copulation, and childbirth. In addition, this make it difficult for males to mate without the full cooperation of females, which helps the female dominated society of spotted hyenas to eliminate forced sex. [3]
I don't understand your objection to the ascent of humans. I understand what you are saying about DNA, but I don't see how separate ancestries follow from that.
I don't think that's the objection, or if he even has an objection along those lines.
I think, perhaps what he may be getting at, since human evolution is only observable/provable through an archeological/science sort of lens there isn't a truly complete picture for the story of homo sapiens.
I don't think that's the objection, or if he even has an objection along those lines.
I think, perhaps what he may be getting at, since human evolution is only observable/provable through an archeological/science sort of lens there isn't a truly complete picture for the story of homo sapiens.
Of course, I can't answer that for onelongsong.
Just taking a guess on what he may be getting at.
Oh right, I'm supposed to ask Angelica if it's true. I need the Angelica lense, is that what you are getting at?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Er, no. I was just taking a guess about what ols might be leaning toward based on what I know of his posting history. Nothing more or less.
It sounded like you were suggesting I look at it somehow outside of science, on behalf of OLS. I'm not sure how to do that.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Bonobo's do it like they do on the discovery channel...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
i do not have monkey balls...but, monkeys are smart incorporating just that into their daily rituals and propegating it throughout their culture...i love having someone/something playing with my balls...and my cock...who can deny that?
i do not have monkey balls...but, monkeys are smart incorporating just that into their daily rituals and propegating it throughout their culture...i love having someone/something playing with my balls...and my cock...who can deny that?
uh huh, sure...I heard those monkey sounds coming from your tent!
I can deny that....considering that I don't happen to have those bits and pieces
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and i can find many analogus traits connecting humans with buffalo as i look out my window. from oral sex to the way they care for their young. the way the herd is a "community" that watches out for the others just like humans used to do. the alpha cow is the "president" and the alpha bull is the judicial system. the bulls will fight with eachother for power and also for females. just as humans will. i can go on and on if you like. but that is the basic DNA that we all share. we share DNA markers with buffalo. we also share DNA markers with plants. are we closer to primates than any other animal? perhaps. is a golden retriever closer to a coyote than any other animal? perhaps. but a golden retriever is still a golden retriever and not a coyote.
we evolved independently of others with common building blocks.
Right, but geneticists claim we evolved along the same tree as Bonobos and diverged from them a short time ago. Are you suggesting this isn't true? That we never shared a common ancestry with Bonobos or mice?
we share DNA ancestry with every living thing. life started in the oceans. first algea; from that single celled creatures; and from this ocean of DNA building blocks; different DNA attached to different single celled creatures.
doesn't cloning prove this? you can remove primate DNA from a primate egg; add human DNA; and create a human. this does not mean we come from primates; it means human DNA replaced the primate DNA.
so; to get a human from a primate we must first remove the primate DNA and REPLACE IT with human DNA.
(in this case; i'm using the word primate to mean monkey. i know humans are primates.)
I don't understand your objection to the ascent of humans. I understand what you are saying about DNA, but I don't see how separate ancestries follow from that.
can i have a rain check on the explaination? i had my afternoon morphine an hour ago and i'd rather wait until i was thinking more clearly. i'd really like to debate this theory with you because i think it would be very interesting. at the moment; i can't remember where i first read it. when i'm feeling a bit better; i'll get my sh*t together and we can discuss this. please forgive me.
No problem OLS. Make sure you take that morphine in your usual environment.
duh...because that's what the Priest always told us after he'd just come back from buggering boys in the rectory
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thanks. i have to take it 3 times a day at the same time. it's never a good sign when they put you on morphine. surgery is the 26th so hopefully things will go well. i look forward to a good debate. i miss locking horns with you.
i apologise to everyone for going off topic.
I think you'll find most mammals do. Female hyenas have a huge one. Bigger than the male's penis, and they have to give birth through it. Seriously. I'm not making it up. Google it.
-C Addison
Googled!
Pseudo-penis
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Female spotted hyenas have pseudo-penises, which may function as a social signal.A pseudo-penis is a term used of any structure found on an animal that while superficially appearing to be a penis, is derived from a different developmental path.
Mammals
In mammals, all intact developmentally typical males have a penis, but the clitoris in the females of the following species is sufficiently enlarged that it is usually termed a pseudo-penis: spotted hyena,[1] squirrel monkey, lemur, and binturong.[2] The labia of the spider monkey are elongated and may be similarly confused during display.
The mammalian pseudo-penis appears to be simply for display, although the hyena is an exception: erection of the penis (which is voluntary in both sexes) is certainly a display of submission in both male and female spotted hyena, but the female hyena additionally uses her pseudo-penis for urination, copulation, and childbirth. In addition, this make it difficult for males to mate without the full cooperation of females, which helps the female dominated society of spotted hyenas to eliminate forced sex. [3]
Or... wikid rather...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudo-penis
Right, the hyena female has a pseudo-penis. It isn't exactly a clitoris. Or maybe it is. Fucking hyenas.
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Not enough?
Think of Rosie O'Donnell.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have said that.
I don't think that's the objection, or if he even has an objection along those lines.
I think, perhaps what he may be getting at, since human evolution is only observable/provable through an archeological/science sort of lens there isn't a truly complete picture for the story of homo sapiens.
Of course, I can't answer that for onelongsong.
Just taking a guess on what he may be getting at.
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Oh right, I'm supposed to ask Angelica if it's true. I need the Angelica lense, is that what you are getting at?
Er, no. I was just taking a guess about what ols might be leaning toward based on what I know of his posting history. Nothing more or less.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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It sounded like you were suggesting I look at it somehow outside of science, on behalf of OLS. I'm not sure how to do that.
No, I wasn't. Maybe it was Jesus you heard. Heh.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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Which is?
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no kidding
Bubu, did you just rub up against me?
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Of course I did! And you enjoyed it, too!
Join the gabbly!!
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1999646204981901673&q=monkey+sex&total=1732&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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yep, i can't deny it
I will but first I have to eat my supper...see ya in like half an hour
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LOL....cute.
i do not have monkey balls...but, monkeys are smart incorporating just that into their daily rituals and propegating it throughout their culture...i love having someone/something playing with my balls...and my cock...who can deny that?
from my window to yours
uh huh, sure...I heard those monkey sounds coming from your tent!
I can deny that....considering that I don't happen to have those bits and pieces
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but, knowing men...you can see where it's true...right?
from my window to yours