Bonobo Sex!
Ahnimus
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Our closest surviving relatives in the animal world, the Bonobos, and their sexual habits.
Sexual intercourse plays a major role in Bonobo society, being used as a greeting, a means of conflict resolution and post-conflict reconciliation, and as favors traded by the females in exchange for food. Bonobos are the only non-human apes to have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex (most frequently female-female, then male-female and male-male), tongue kissing, and oral sex.[15] In scientific literature, the female-female sex is often referred to as GG rubbing or genital-genital rubbing, while male-male sex is sometimes referred to as penis fencing.[16]
Sexual activity happens within the immediate family as well as outside it, and often involves adults and children, even infants.[17] Bonobos do not form permanent relationships with individual partners. They also do not seem to discriminate in their sexual behavior by gender or age, with the possible exception of sexual intercourse between mothers and their adult sons; some observers believe these pairings are taboo. When Bonobos come upon a new food source or feeding ground, the increased excitement will usually lead to communal sexual activity, presumably decreasing tension and allowing for peaceful feeding.[18]
Bonobo males frequently engage in various forms of male-male genital sex (frot).[19][20][21] One form has two males hang from a tree limb face-to-face while "penis fencing". Frot may also occur where two males rub their penises together while in missionary position. A special form of frot called "rump rubbing" occurs to express reconciliation between two males after a conflict, where they stand back-to-back and rub their scrotal sacs together.
Bonobo females also engage in female-female genital sex (tribadism) to socially bond with each other, thus forming a female nucleus of Bonobo society. The bonding between females allows them to dominate Bonobo society - although male Bonobos are individually stronger, they cannot stand alone against a united group of females. Adolescent females often leave their native community to join another community. Sexual bonding with other females establishes the new females as members of the group. This migration mixes the Bonobo gene pools, providing genetic diversity.
Bonobo reproductive rates are not any higher than that of the Common Chimpanzee. Female Bonobos carry and nurse their young for five years and can give birth every five to six years. Compared with Common Chimpanzees, Bonobo females resume the genital swelling cycle much sooner after giving birth, allowing them to rejoin the sexual activities of their society. Also, Bonobo females who are either sterile or too young to reproduce still engage in sexual activity.
Craig Stanford, an American primatologist, has challenged the claim that Bonobos are more sexually active than Common Chimpanzees. Stanford compared existing data on Common Chimpanzees and Bonobos in the natural habitat and found that female Common Chimpanzees copulated at least as often as female Bonobos, while male chimpanzees actually copulated more than male Bonobos.[22] His comparison excluded same-sex sexual contacts, however, which are very common in Bonobos. De Waal's book on Bonobos includes interviews with field workers and relies on the studies by Takayoshi Kano, the only scientist to have worked for two decades with wild Bonobos. [23] Kano's work supports claims about the Bonobos' pronounced sexual tendencies and their relative peacefulness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo#Sexual_social_behavior
If we are so closely genetically related to Bonobos, it's a wonder this kind of activity doesn't happen more with humans.
Sexual intercourse plays a major role in Bonobo society, being used as a greeting, a means of conflict resolution and post-conflict reconciliation, and as favors traded by the females in exchange for food. Bonobos are the only non-human apes to have been observed engaging in all of the following sexual activities: face-to-face genital sex (most frequently female-female, then male-female and male-male), tongue kissing, and oral sex.[15] In scientific literature, the female-female sex is often referred to as GG rubbing or genital-genital rubbing, while male-male sex is sometimes referred to as penis fencing.[16]
Sexual activity happens within the immediate family as well as outside it, and often involves adults and children, even infants.[17] Bonobos do not form permanent relationships with individual partners. They also do not seem to discriminate in their sexual behavior by gender or age, with the possible exception of sexual intercourse between mothers and their adult sons; some observers believe these pairings are taboo. When Bonobos come upon a new food source or feeding ground, the increased excitement will usually lead to communal sexual activity, presumably decreasing tension and allowing for peaceful feeding.[18]
Bonobo males frequently engage in various forms of male-male genital sex (frot).[19][20][21] One form has two males hang from a tree limb face-to-face while "penis fencing". Frot may also occur where two males rub their penises together while in missionary position. A special form of frot called "rump rubbing" occurs to express reconciliation between two males after a conflict, where they stand back-to-back and rub their scrotal sacs together.
Bonobo females also engage in female-female genital sex (tribadism) to socially bond with each other, thus forming a female nucleus of Bonobo society. The bonding between females allows them to dominate Bonobo society - although male Bonobos are individually stronger, they cannot stand alone against a united group of females. Adolescent females often leave their native community to join another community. Sexual bonding with other females establishes the new females as members of the group. This migration mixes the Bonobo gene pools, providing genetic diversity.
Bonobo reproductive rates are not any higher than that of the Common Chimpanzee. Female Bonobos carry and nurse their young for five years and can give birth every five to six years. Compared with Common Chimpanzees, Bonobo females resume the genital swelling cycle much sooner after giving birth, allowing them to rejoin the sexual activities of their society. Also, Bonobo females who are either sterile or too young to reproduce still engage in sexual activity.
Craig Stanford, an American primatologist, has challenged the claim that Bonobos are more sexually active than Common Chimpanzees. Stanford compared existing data on Common Chimpanzees and Bonobos in the natural habitat and found that female Common Chimpanzees copulated at least as often as female Bonobos, while male chimpanzees actually copulated more than male Bonobos.[22] His comparison excluded same-sex sexual contacts, however, which are very common in Bonobos. De Waal's book on Bonobos includes interviews with field workers and relies on the studies by Takayoshi Kano, the only scientist to have worked for two decades with wild Bonobos. [23] Kano's work supports claims about the Bonobos' pronounced sexual tendencies and their relative peacefulness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo#Sexual_social_behavior
If we are so closely genetically related to Bonobos, it's a wonder this kind of activity doesn't happen more with humans.
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They say approx 16 million people in the US are addicted to sex. I find that number very low.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Yea, but we don't penis fence for the freshest apples at the supermarket. At least I don't.
I wonder how common sex with infants is in human populations. Or intrafamilial sex in general.
Aside from the pedo/incest thing knock off a few IQ points, get everybody naked in the forest...hmm...hard to say...lol
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Ha ha! If I ever see you in the supermarket I'm running away.
-C Addison
I would look for apples in Ahnimus's cart first....
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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thats something i can get behind.
think about structure and the imposition of social norms. what we do is trendy. if penis fencing, gg, incestual relations, and sexual conduct with infants and children was fashionable we would be engaging in such activity because it would be rewarding.
from my window to yours
I had to respond to this again. Penis fencing for apples in the grocery store is some rather vivid imagery.
lol...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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lol... that's funny shit
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Well, I don't think any of the other mammalians do. Other than humans.
Also, it is the female bonobo that decides who gets what in that sexual (non-violent society.) It isn't control so much, from what I've read, as it is harmony. If tensions need subsiding, the lead female is a decider. Sometimes she just goes off and masturbates.
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Kat is the lead bonobo chimp here.
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Females are somewhat smaller than males but can be considered to have a higher social status. Strong female bonding allows groups of female Bonobos to dominate the community. Aggressive encounters between males and females are rare, and males are tolerant of infants and juveniles. The male's status reflects the status of his mother, and the son-mother bond often stays strong and continues throughout life.
hehe females dominating the community. and males are mummy's boys. hehe!
just kidding peoples
Somehow the wisdom of the tribe seems to settle on the beat of the eldest or wisest female. Not often the male. That's what I know of this dynamic, too.
I mean, you may be nervously "kidding", yet, there it is.
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The gist of the study of Bonobos is that in the 70 or so odd years that scientists have studied them is the fact that, as a society, they have circumvented the juvenile male impulse to war, violence and dominance: through healthy sexual release.
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you may be onto something there
Well they say it does release a lot of tension...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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...not really following that...
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not really, especially when i'm feeling exhausted.....and i want to go to sleep! ( its morning here )
I thought Bonobos and Chimpanzees were a different species.
Chimpanzees are brutally violent, but they get into a lot of sex too.
For whatever reason, humans are the only species on the planet that think sex can be a bad thing.
I have no doubt in my mind that we did do that at one time.
I'm not entirely sure I know why we don't. I've always struggled with this image of Good or Bad when it comes to sex. There is no strong divide between what is right and wrong. Then looking at the animal world reveals that nature doesn't have moral values like "incest" and "pedophilia". As Peter Gray writes in the Psychology text book "evolution is not moral, if something increases the chances of gene reproduction it will be selected for". Among humans, it's said we are part monogomous and part polygynous. Results show 2 to 10 percent of female fertilization occurs from copulation with neighbouring males and not their husband. We seem to have a front of morality, but underneath, just like other animals, we fuck like crazy. We just do it in secret.
it seems people pick the theory they believe most and put other theories on the back burner. although bonobos may be primates; i don't believe we evolved from primates. that's like saying a dog evolved from a cat. i can take similarities from both and connect them making a good argument. i believe we evolved; but as a seperate entity. cats evolved/adapted seperately from dogs and frogs and every other animal. if man evolved from a single cell; primates evolved from a different single cell. cats evolved from yet a different single cell. our DNA is all connected; but the DNA of that single cell decided what that cell would evolve into. DNA is called the building blocks; and as these different cells built their DNA; the evolutionary process produced the "animals" we have now and also the animals now extinct. human DNA from thousands of years ago is different from modern DNA. the building blocks continue to build and we continue to change.
So... you think we evolved totally independently of other animals?
Then it's just coincidence that we have so many analogous traits?
I never understood why so many people view nudity and sex in such a negative manner. Maybe you can shed some light on that.
Uh, religion, maybe...
It's a very interesting question, I wish I knew the answer, but I can only speculate.
I would guess that religion would be the primary culprit. I just don't get it. How can something that feels so good be wrong.
Ha, reminds me of these lyrics from Dr. Hook's Freaker's Ball
Blow your whistle and bang your gong
Roll up something to take along
It feels so good it must be wrong
We're freakin at the freakers ball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs8XW0GP1Qw
Funny stuff, it must be that we are conditioned by society to reject our natural impulses, because of some idealist view that some forms of sex are immoral. It may very well be true, but who is to say.