"Shut up, just shut up"

NakedClown

EDIT 3: It's not worth it...

Pearl Jam and toast

surferdude wrote:

Then there's the flipside to Bill and Ann, people like Michael Moore and Eddie Vedder.Where they spout off if you agree with Bush on anything it's because you're either stupid or don't understand the issue.
Neither side is any better than the other, and are looking more and more alike everyday.

that's true that there are people like that.

Ed isn't one of them though.. he's a little like that, but not really.

Moore is a lot like that though.

moeaholic

why do you have to get your panties in a bunch about this? christ all mighty. i hear this type of shit from both sides and i just roll my eyes. can't you do the same?

Ahnimus

moeaholic wrote:

why do you have to get your panties in a bunch about this? christ all mighty. i hear this type of shit from both sides and i just roll my eyes. can't you do the same?

See there you go with the sides thing again. If we are talking about Canada vs the United States then I can see what sides you are referring to. Because both Bill O'reilly and Ann Coulter have made beligerant and ignorant remarks towards Canada. Neither of them have a clue about our relationship or the history of Canada, but spew crap about Canada anyway. Lose the Right vs Left paradigm because it's bullshit. These are the only two neo-nazi fuggers I've seen screaming at people to shut up and calling for the death of entire nationalities.

Vedderlution_Baby

So, I am currently a terrorist. (D.O.D if you are reading this it was not a comment that was meant to be taken seriously. But if you insist on tracking me down this is my g/f's computer. You can find me in the apartment next door) I must be since I don't agree with the current situation that's taking place everywhere or with our current "leaders".


A question, and I'm not attacking, I'm not defending, I'm just asking.

Has Eddie Vedder ever verbally attacked someone who had different opinions than him? (Other than high ranking politicians) like Ann or Bill has?

Seems to me that people like Ed want to invoke thought.

Abookamongstthemany

Ahnimus wrote:

See there you go with the sides thing again. If we are talking about Canada vs the United States then I can see what sides you are referring to. Because both Bill O'reilly and Ann Coulter have made beligerant and ignorant remarks towards Canada. Neither of them have a clue about our relationship or the history of Canada, but spew crap about Canada anyway. Lose the Right vs Left paradigm because it's bullshit. These are the only two neo-nazi fuggers I've seen screaming at people to shut up and calling for the death of entire nationalities.

Exactly, I can't think of one person even close to the scale of these two seething assholes. Frankin and Moore can definitely be tools at times (alotta times) but nowhere in the same area as our one onlys Bill and Ice Queen Ann.

Abookamongstthemany

Ahnimus wrote:

Where do you find this "criticism"?

I'd like to know, as well.

moeaholic

Ahnimus wrote:

See there you go with the sides thing again. If we are talking about Canada vs the United States then I can see what sides you are referring to. Because both Bill O'reilly and Ann Coulter have made beligerant and ignorant remarks towards Canada. Neither of them have a clue about our relationship or the history of Canada, but spew crap about Canada anyway. Lose the Right vs Left paradigm because it's bullshit. These are the only two neo-nazi fuggers I've seen screaming at people to shut up and calling for the death of entire nationalities.

two people, and you have to react like this. damn, man. give it a rest. you know how many people i know that take anything those two have to say to heart? none. well, except for you, but i don't really know you.

and no, i'm not talking about canada against the united states. what would make you think that's what i meant? honestly, i had no idea you were canadian.

BetterRadio

[size=-2]ann coulter needs to get laid.[/size]

NMyTree

To discourage freedom of speech and criticism of the powers that be, is anti-american. Regardless of what side your on or what side you criticize.

The minute you tell someone to shut up and keep their opinions to themselves (discourage speaking out), you've violated what being an american is all about.

The minute you attempt to silence, suppress, marginalize or eliminate oppositional opinions; you are in violation of other individual's freedoms and rights. You are in violation of America.

Ahnimus

NMyTree wrote:

To discourage freedom of speech and criticism of the powers that be, is anti-american. Regardless of what side your on or what side you criticize.

The minute you tell someone to shut up and keep their opinions to themselves (discourage speaking out), you've violated what being an american is all about.

The minute you attempt to silence, suppress, marginalize or eliminate oppositional opinions; you are in violation of other individual's freedoms and rights. You are in violation of America.

Well said.

rightondude

Very well said indeed.

Ahnimus

Video: Freak Out!

Good stuff, Ann vs Fox

Ahnimus

Video: Franken vs Oreilly

This is good. It's not the one where Oreilly yells at Franken "Shut up, you had your 35 minutes"

Ahnimus

Video: O'reilly on Lebanon

Spin... spin.

First of all, the concept of who fired the first shot is irrelevant. We are dealing with a force (Hezbollah) that has a purpose. That purpose was initially to drive Israel out of the Sheeba Farms. They succeeded in doing that. However, Hezbollah still exists, there must be another reason for their existance. Judging by the history of this group being a liberation force, we should look to a possible humanitarian cause. We know that there is a long history of stress in the Middle-East, a long history of conflict with Israel and the United States.

Therefore a (self-proclaimed) "Journalist" should give scrutiny to the motives of Hezbollah. Echoing the view of the United States administration without scrutiny is a direct display of partisanship. O'reilly claims that Hezbollah acted first, omitting the fact that Hezbollah and Israel have been at conflict for 6 years over captured Lebonese citizens. They have made several exchanges since Hezbollah was created in 2000. So the military operation was not unprecedented. He then spins the story to affect his viewers emotionaly, while demonizing Hezbollah. Again omitting the fact that every militarized nation in the world has rockets and nuclear bombs targetting each other. It's not an isolated incident. The cold war never ended, a "cease-fire" was called that was eventually forgotten about. The threat still exists. With intercontinental balistic missles in various nations around the world. A nuclear bomb could be launched (or planted) anywhere in the world, any time.

Bill uses an analogy that mexicans capture american soldiers. Then the "mexican government" - not a "terror group" or resistance faction - claims to have missiles aimed at the United States. This is a total falsification of facts, a media spin to the bennefit of the administration's perspective and the continued slaughter of Lebonese civilians, attacks on the Lebonese government and another decade or more of Israeli occupation. Completely disgusting and I can't believe anyone agrees with O'reilly. I am amazed this guy is allowed to speak on national television and spread his ignorant and sensational lies and garbage.

EvilToasterElf

Ahnimus wrote:

http://www.giveupblog.com/hitlercoulterquiz.html

Ann Coulter or Hitler, guess who made the statment

I only got 3 wrong - dunno if that's good or not

hippiemom

Ahnimus wrote:

http://www.giveupblog.com/hitlercoulterquiz.html

Ann Coulter or Hitler, guess who made the statment

I got them all right, it was easy. The literate sounding responses are Hitler's. The mind-bendingly dumb sounding quotes are Coulter.

Byrnzie

surferdude wrote:

If you want to turn it into a pissing match I can spend the time to look up and quote the blow hards on the left. But I don't see the point. More than enough info is out there about how untruthful Michael Moore is, and if forced I could find some truly ignorant quotes by Eddie. In fact you could do a search in this forum and find some.

So you're a fan of Ann Coulter then? And feel personally insulted when people criticize her. You aren't related to her are you?
By the way, I read some of the so-called "...enough info is out there about how untruthful Michael Moore is.." and found it to be complete tosh which evades the facts and simply harps on about how the "central themes" of his work are "misleading" and other such wishy washy crap. Please feel free to provide some concrete examples.

Byrnzie

Ahnimus wrote:

Michael Moore deserves no respect I agree with you and I personally don't care what Eddie Vedder's political opinions are. What I am talking about here is journalists, people that have a moral requirement to remain objective and not opinionated.

Ahnimus wrote:

Man, the US media is direct improvement on Hitler's propaganda machine. What makes me sick is people actually believe this crap.

Have you not just contradicted yourself?
So Michael Moore deserves no respect eh? Someone who has brought important issues into the limelight and who shone a critical light upon the clown that is George Dubya - something that most Americans haven't had the balls to do! Would you have preferred it if Fareheit 9/11 hadn't been made? What exactly is your issue with the movie? Please elaborate.

Ahnimus

Byrnzie wrote:

Have you not just contradicted yourself?

I don't see how, please elaborate.