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  • HinnyHinny Posts: 1,610
    Jeanie wrote:
    Ah ta cate!! It's a vast improvement on God Save The Queen, that's for sure!! :D

    Of course I've always been a little partial to our unofficial National Anthem Waltzing Matilda!!! :D
    I Still Call Australia Home is soooooooo much better than that song about sheep.
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    when we were well.. wee.

    is it national alliteration day or something :);)

    why did you Aussies sing it then? :confused:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Hinny wrote:
    I Still Call Australia Home is soooooooo much better than that song about sheep.

    It's a generational thing I suspect, Hinny. I mean there were a whole stack of folk back in the Chisel days that used to call Khe Sahn the unofficial national anthem!! :eek:

    Think, I'm glad we no longer sing God Save The Queen, which I can remember doing every morning at assembly with a picture of HRH in front of us. :eek:

    And that even though I don't really care for it, we should keep Advance Australia Fair, and I'll keep mumbling along sometimes, when the mood strikes me to. :D
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    dunkman wrote:
    is it national alliteration day or something :);)

    why did you Aussies sing it then? :confused:

    um because a majority of us, back in the day when cate and I were growing up, had English, Irish and Scottish ancestory. and we got stuck singing all kinds of stuff, like Scotland the Brave and the like. :o
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  • Sonja_SSonja_S Vienna Posts: 444
    haha somebody tell Wikipedia....that's where it's from

    The wikipedia article also states that the music of the German anthem is from the 'Roman-German' anthem 'Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser' which is complete bull. Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser was the Austrian anthem and became 'Gott erhalte, Gott behüte' when Kaiser Franz Joseph died in 1916 (the next and last Kaiser wasn't called Franz anymore ;)). Joseph Haydn, the composer lived all his live in the province of Burgenland (on the Hungarian border which wasn't a border back then) and Vienna and nowhere near anything German. There was an American Football game between Hamburg and Vienna last year and when they started playing the anthems, the entire stadium started singing 'Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser' when the German anthem started. It wasn't even meant to be mean, but we still learn that one in school, so it's an automatic reaction.

    We don't take ourselves too seriously though. Our 'new' anthem starts with

    Land der Berge, Land am Strome (land of mountains, land on the stream)
    so people sing Land der Zwerge, Land der Gnome (land of dwarfs, land of gnomes). It doesn't help that there's a Land der Hämmer in there since hammer is also another word for idiot in some parts of the country :D
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Jeanie wrote:
    Ah ta cate!! It's a vast improvement on God Save The Queen, that's for sure!! :D

    Of course I've always been a little partial to our unofficial National Anthem Waltzing Matilda!!! :D

    ah yes jeanie, who doesn't love shoving a jumbuck in their tuckerbag? :D
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    dunkman wrote:
    is it national alliteration day or something :);)

    indeed it is. :D:p
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  • I was thinking this was to be a look into the examples of various National Anthems, it kinda looks more like the song break thread... :rolleyes:
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  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    There's been quite a big anthem debate over here since the singing of God save the ***** in Croke park :o

    A Soldier's song

    Soldiers are we,
    whose lives are pledged to Ireland
    Some have come from a land beyond the wave,
    Some to be free,
    no more our ancient sireland
    Shall shelter the despot or the slave;
    tonight we man the Bearna Baoghal
    In Erin's cause.
    come woe or weal;
    'Mid cannon's roar and rifle's peal
    We'll chant a soldier's song.

    We'll sing a song, a soldier's song
    With cheering, rousing chorus
    As round our blazing fires we thong,
    The starry heavens o'er us;
    Impatient for the coming fight,
    And as we wait the mornings light
    here in the silence of the night
    We'll sing a soldier's song

    CHORUS

    In valley green or towering crag
    Our fathers fought before us,
    And conquered 'neath the same old flag
    That's floating o'er us,
    We're children of a fighting race
    That never yet has known disgrace,
    And as we march the foe to face,
    We'll sing a soldier's song

    CHORUS

    Sons of the Gael! Men of the Pale!
    The Long watched day is breaking;
    The serried ranks of Innisfail
    Shall set the tyrant quaking.
    Our camp fires now are burning low;
    See in the east a silvery glow,
    Out yonder waits the saxon foe,
    So sing a soldier's song.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    ah yes jeanie, who doesn't love shoving a jumbuck in their tuckerbag? :D

    Ah yes, jumbuck shoving!! Should be a national sport!!! :D
    Oh that's right we're Aussies not Kiwis!! :D
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Jeanie wrote:
    Ah yes, jumbuck shoving!! Should be a national sport!!! :D
    Oh that's right we're Aussies not Kiwis!! :D

    i believe in some country towns it is. :D
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    i believe in some country towns it is. :D

    Along with the circle work and the B & S!!!! :D
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  • The Puerto Rican national anthem is one of the nicest arround. But it is that way for a reason. Here is story on wikipedia wich i find it to be very close to the truth.

    Lola Rodríguez de Tió wrote a poem in support of Puerto Rican revolution, which was set to the Ramirez/Astol Artés music. When the Spanish authorities investigated, Ramirez, out of fear, asked Astol to claim authorship of the music, since Astol was a native of Catalunya and would therefore not raise any suspicion.

    With the original lyrics deemed too subversive for official adoption, a non-confrontational set of lyrics was written in 1903 by Asturias-born Manuel Fernández Juncos and taught in the public schools. The tune was officially adopted as the Commonwealth's anthem in 1952, and continued to be sung with the Manuel Fernández Juncos words (which, however, were not officially adopted until 1977).


    Both versions are given below. The Fernández Juncos version is the most familiar version; it is, for example, sung spontaneously to celebrate Puerto Rican successes in athletic events. As of 2004 the "revolutionary" version is associated with the Puerto Rican Independence movement (see Politics of Puerto Rico) and was sung at the Vieques Navy protests

    Manuel Fernández Juncos, 1903)

    The land of Borinquen
    where I have been born
    is a flowery garden
    of magical beauty.


    A constantly clear sky
    serves as its canopy
    and placid lullabies are sung
    by the waves at its [Borinquen's] feet.


    When at her beaches Columbus arrived
    full of awe he exclaimed,
    "Oh!, oh!, oh!, this is the lovely land
    that I seek"


    Borinquen is the daughter,
    the daughter of the sea and the sun.
    Of the sea and the sun,
    of the sea and the sun,
    of the sea and the sun,
    of the sea and the sun.

    Sounds nice doesnt it.
  • Original 1868 revolutionary version by Lola Rodríguez de Tió

    ¡Despierta, borinqueño
    que han dado la señal!
    ¡Despierta de ese sueño
    que es hora de luchar!

    [Arise, boricua! The call to arms has sounded! Awake from the slumber, it is time to fight!]

    A ese llamar patriótico
    ¿no arde tu corazón?
    ¡Ven! Nos será simpático
    el ruido del cañón.

    [Doesn't this patriotic call set your heart alight? Come! We are in tune with the roar of the cannon.]

    Mira, ya el cubano
    libre será;
    le dará el machete
    su libertad...
    le dará el machete
    su libertad.

    [Come, the Cuban will soon be free; the machete will give him his liberty.]

    Ya el tambor guerrero
    dice en su son,
    que es la manigua el sitio,
    el sitio de la reunión,
    de la reunión...
    de la reunión.

    [Now the war drum says with its sound, that the jungle is the place of the meeting.]

    El Grito de Lares
    se ha de repetir,
    y entonces sabremos
    vencer o morir.

    [The Cry of Lares must be repeated, and then we will know: victory or death.]

    Bellísima Borinquén,
    a Cuba hay que seguir;
    tú tienes bravos hijos
    que quieren combatir.

    [Beautiful Borinquén must follow Cuba; you have brave sons who wish to fight.]

    ya por más tiempo impávido
    no podemos estar,
    ya no queremos, tímidos
    dejarnos subyugar.

    [Now, no longer can we be unmoved; now we do not want timidly to let them subjugate us.]

    Nosotros queremos
    ser libre ya,
    y nuestro machete
    afilado está.
    y nuestro machete
    afilado está.

    [We want to be free now, and our machete has been sharpened.]

    ¿Por qué, entonces, nosotros
    hemos de estar,
    tan dormidos y sordos
    y sordos a esa señal?
    a esa señal, a esa señal?

    [Why then have we been so sleepy and deaf to the call?]

    No hay que temer, riqueños
    al ruido del cañón,
    que salvar a la patria
    es deber del corazón!

    [There is no need to fear, Ricans, the roar of the cannon; saving the nation is the duty of the heart.]

    ya no queremos déspotas,
    caiga el tirano ya,
    las mujeres indómitas
    también sabrán luchar.

    [We no longer want despots, tyranny shall fall now; the unconquerable women also will know how to fight.]

    Nosotros queremos
    la libertad,
    y nuestros machetes
    nos la darán...
    y nuestro machete
    nos la dará...

    [We want liberty, and our machetes will give it to us.]

    Vámonos, borinqueños,
    vámonos ya,
    que nos espera ansiosa,
    ansiosa la libertad.
    ¡La libertad, la libertad!

    [Come, Boricuas, come now, since freedom awaits us anxiously, freedom, freedom!]
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,193
    you guys can get rid of your anthems, i like the US anthem specially at baseball games .......
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    I'm a little late to this conversation, but I'll translate the Nicaraguan national anthem (not one mention of God, btw), just short and sweet.

    Hail to thee, Nicaragua! On thy land
    roars the voice of the cannon no more,
    nor does the blood of brothers now stain
    thy glorious bicolor banner.

    Let peace shine beautiful in thy sky,
    and nothing dim thine immortal glory,
    ¡for work is thy well earned laurel
    and honor is thy triumphal emblem!



    **NOTE, I didn't actually translate, Wiki did it for me!
  • HorosHoros Posts: 4,518
    you guys can get rid of your anthems, i like the US anthem specially at baseball games .......
    Nothing like the singing of the greatest National Anthem at a sporting event. Brings a tear to my eye nearly every time. Don't know about your countries but here we kind of respect it.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Horos wrote:
    Nothing like the singing of the greatest National Anthem at a sporting event. Brings a tear to my eye nearly every time. Don't know about your countries but here we kind of respect it.

    well here in australia we respect the anthem with as much irreverance as we respect anything else.
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  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Horos wrote:
    Nothing like the singing of the greatest National Anthem at a sporting event. Brings a tear to my eye nearly every time. Don't know about your countries but here we kind of respect it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ6-bYixpYE&NR

    You want emotive anthems??? Wait til it gets to the Irish one and look at the players... really funny. That was some day... just amazing. I think it summed up what anthems can do.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • HinnyHinny Posts: 1,610
    You people have seen Casablanca and the scene with La Marseillaise, right?
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Hinny wrote:
    You people have seen Casablanca and the scene with La Marseillaise, right?

    Can't remember Hinny. Sorry. :o Refresh my memory please? :)
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  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    I kinda like the norwegian one. Light on God references, a bit heavy on national pride of course, but emphasize our new-won independence from first Denmark and then Sweden, and how we join "as three brothers".
    The enemy threw away his weapon,
    up the visor went,
    we, in wonder, to him hastened,
    because he was our brother.
    Driven forth to a stand by shame
    we went to the south;
    now we three brothers stand united,
    and shall stand like that!

    But anthems are rallying points for nationalism, which I abhor, but can also be mere expression of patriotism, which is fine.

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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    We have three versions because our country is officially trilingual; a Dutch version and a German and a French version.

    I know the first two lines of the Dutch version, that's it. I don't think it mentions god but we have a king and it's about supporting him and stuff like that, which I disagree with because I'm against the royal family.
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  • pirlo21pirlo21 Posts: 534
    Anyone heard the Welsh National Anthem, 'Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau'? Really beautiful.
    Really sends a shiver down the spine when it's being sung by 74,000 people at the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff before a rugby or football international.

    Here's a rough English translation (no mention of God!):

    The old land of my fathers is dear to me,
    Land of poets and singers, famous men of renown;
    Her brave warriors, very splendid patriots,
    For freedom shed their blood.

    Nation [or country], Nation, I am true to my Nation.
    While the sea [is] a wall to the pure, most loved land,
    O may the old language [sc. Cymraeg] endure.
    Cymru Am Byth

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