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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Do you ever watch anything else?

    Of course! I watch stuff I don't agree with often...I come here and read stuff I don't agree with, too. I could just pretend it doesn't exist. Do you watch stuff that I like? Or is it all the stuff you preach about on here?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Of course! I watch stuff I don't agree with often...I come here and read stuff I don't agree with, too. I could just pretend it doesn't exist. Do you watch stuff that I like? Or is it all the stuff you preach about on here?

    I watch and read a lot of stuff. But I tend to see the same stuff over and over again. The same arguments, the same circumstantial evidence, etc.. etc..

    It might be something to do with the music Pearl Jam makes, but most places I post have people with completely different attitudes. For example I started a thread about free-will on tvo.org/theagenda and most of the responses were "That's self-evident" and some ridiculed me for suggesting it was some kind of revelation when it's "blatantly obvious". The same phenomena occurred at skeptic.com. Here on the other hand, I was called "Crazy".
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I watch and read a lot of stuff. But I tend to see the same stuff over and over again. The same arguments, the same circumstantial evidence, etc.. etc..

    It might be something to do with the music Pearl Jam makes, but most places I post have people with completely different attitudes. For example I started a thread about free-will on tvo.org/theagenda and most of the responses were "That's self-evident" and some ridiculed me for suggesting it was some kind of revelation when it's "blatantly obvious". The same phenomena occurred at skeptic.com. Here on the other hand, I was called "Crazy".


    Well, people do surround themselves with like minded folks a lot. I like to evolve ideas more than butt heads constantly, myself. I trust my intuition now more than ever...I guess that's where we differ. I do read your posts instead of simply blocking them out. I just disagree very often. You know it's easier to explain your logical approach than it is for someone whose more inclined to follow their intuition and subjective experience. You focus on proof...facts that have already been discovered by others. I'm still searching for answers to things that I feel haven't quite been answered yet.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Well, people do surround themselves with like minded folks a lot. I like to evolve ideas more than butt heads constantly, myself. I trust my intuition now more than ever...I guess that's where we differ. I do read your posts instead of simply blocking them out. I just disagree very often. You know it's easier to explain your logical approach than it is for someone whose more inclined to follow their intuition and subjective experience. You focus on proof...facts that have already been discovered by others. I'm still searching for answers to things that I feel haven't quite been answered yet.

    What answers are you looking for?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Ahnimus wrote:
    What answers are you looking for?

    Why are we here? Why do we have this conscience/love/guilt guiding us? Why are we motivated to care outside of our own self interests? Can we learn to live in peace with one another? What is our true potential? How powerful can our thoughts become? Can we live outside our own ego? How can we heal ourselves? Why does our intuition directly conflict with pure logic so often? What is the purpose then of intuition? Why do people feel they need to overcome theirs or dismiss it? Those kinda things.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Why are we here? Why do we have this conscience/love/guilt guiding us? Why are we motivated to care outside of our own self interests? Can we learn to live in peace with one another? What is our true potential? How powerful can our thoughts become? Can we live outside our own ego? How can we heal ourselves? Those kinda things.

    Have you given Dan Dennett a read?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Have you given Dan Dennett a read?

    I edited more thoughts off the top of my head in the post above.

    No, I haven't...got a link to some of his work?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I edited more thoughts off the top of my head in the post above.

    No, I haven't...got a link to some of his work?

    Dennett is a frequent speaker at TED (Technology Entertainment Design). Every year he's there giving a presentation about something. You can view all of those and more videos by him on youtube.
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dan+Dennett

    More here on Dennett
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett#External_links
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Dennett is a frequent speaker at TED (Technology Entertainment Design). Every year he's there giving a presentation about something. You can view all of those and more videos by him on youtube.
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dan+Dennett

    More here on Dennett
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dennett#External_links

    Thanks. I agree with many of his critiques of the bible. I agreed that you don't have to have faith to have purpose in your life. I liked that in his criticisms he used 'might' and 'possible'...instead the usual arrogant 'either, or' approach. I'd liked that he could still see the good in alternate opinions even if he disagreed with the premise. I liked the vibe of live and let live unless your judgments are causing issues to arise that need to be addressed...he seemed to really grasp the concept of co-existing.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Thanks. I agree with many of his critiques of the bible. I agreed that you don't have to have faith to have purpose in your life. I liked that in his criticisms he used 'might' and 'possible'...instead the usual arrogant 'either, or' approach. I'd liked that he could still see the good in alternate opinions even if he disagreed with the premise. I liked the vibe of live and let live unless your judgments are causing issues to arise that need to be addressed...he seemed to really grasp the concept of co-existing.

    Probably Dennett's greatest quality is that he non-militaristically tries to persuade people to his type of thinking. In strong contrast to say Dawkins or Harris.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Hey guys, I've been looking at model brains and they are so expensive. I'd really like to have one for my studies, but I can't afford them.

    But I was thinking, a lot of people claim to exist without their brain in all the glory they experience now. So, you can prove you don't need it just by taking it out and then you can send it to me and we will both be happy.

    I can use more than one for dissecting. So please lobotomize yourself and send me your brain.

    But that would be suicide, and we might be banned from the eternal extra-neurological consciousness club, for doin' dat. ;)
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Hey guys, I've been looking at model brains and they are so expensive. I'd really like to have one for my studies, but I can't afford them.

    But I was thinking, a lot of people claim to exist without their brain in all the glory they experience now. So, you can prove you don't need it just by taking it out and then you can send it to me and we will both be happy.

    I can use more than one for dissecting. So please lobotomize yourself and send me your brain.

    Sheep brains and other animal brains should be available at your butcher Ahnimus why don't you give that a go first? :)

    I could possibly consider willing you mine, but you'd need to prove that you are actually doing something for the advancement of disease cure first.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Probably Dennett's greatest quality is that he non-militaristically tries to persuade people to his type of thinking. In strong contrast to say Dawkins or Harris.


    Knowing how to communicate is half your smarts. ;)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Hey guys, I've been looking at model brains and they are so expensive. I'd really like to have one for my studies, but I can't afford them.

    But I was thinking, a lot of people claim to exist without their brain in all the glory they experience now. So, you can prove you don't need it just by taking it out and then you can send it to me and we will both be happy.

    I can use more than one for dissecting. So please lobotomize yourself and send me your brain.

    I won't be able to live without my liver either but I'm pretty sure my consciousness doesn't stem from there (except on week end nights).
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Kann wrote:
    I won't be able to live without my liver either but I'm pretty sure my consciousness doesn't stem from there (except on week end nights).

    So, what do you figure your brain does? You can just send me half of it.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    Ahnimus wrote:
    So, what do you figure your brain does? You can just send me half of it.

    My brain is a part of my consciousness. Without it I wouldn't be able to say smart stuff. Just like without my heart/spine/liver/lungs... All of this stuff is necessary, not just the brain.
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I watch and read a lot of stuff. But I tend to see the same stuff over and over again. The same arguments, the same circumstantial evidence, etc.. etc..

    It might be something to do with the music Pearl Jam makes, but most places I post have people with completely different attitudes. For example I started a thread about free-will on tvo.org/theagenda and most of the responses were "That's self-evident" and some ridiculed me for suggesting it was some kind of revelation when it's "blatantly obvious". The same phenomena occurred at skeptic.com. Here on the other hand, I was called "Crazy".

    Maybe that's because here you get, at least a small bit of, diversity. Its far from a tossed salad of opinion here, but at least you get a little from various schools of thought. i'd wager a kidney that you're probably not getting that on "skeptic.com" or "ispendwaytomuchtimeonwikipediaandyoutube.com" or whereever else you probably post.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Well as I said before, I = my brain, so you can't have mine (or me).

    I wonder if I can have my brain given to someone when I die.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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